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Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 06:33 PM Apr 2016

Student group calls University of New Mexico seal offensive

Source: Associated Press

Student group calls University of New Mexico seal offensive

Updated 3:59 pm, Sunday, April 17, 2016



ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) — The University of New Mexico's official seal depicting a Spanish conquistador and a frontiersman is drawing accusations of racism from Native American students.

Native American students in the Kiva Club as well as members of advocacy group The Red Nation call the seal offensive, the Albuquerque Journal reported (http://bit.ly/1NgVOYk).

The seal is stamped on all diplomas and is present at most school events.

Oceti Sakowin tribe member and UNM doctoral student Nick Estes designed his own version of the seal in protest, with the conquistador and frontiersman standing atop a pile of bones. He spoke at an organizing meeting for students against the current seal, saying it represents racism at the school.


Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Student-group-calls-U-of-New-Mexico-seal-7253844.php



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Kokonoe

(2,485 posts)
1. I sure am glad young people will not be paved over.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 07:22 PM
Apr 2016

We already know its to late to change the vote of older people.

Warpy

(111,256 posts)
2. Not so fast
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 08:04 PM
Apr 2016

This old Boston transplant was amused as hell when the locals amputated the foot of the Juan de Onate statue. I knew why they chose the foot, too.

And yeah, those Conquistadors leave out a hell of a lot of people who were already here and quite civilized.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
4. Why is that?
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 09:26 PM
Apr 2016

It would just be a simple re-design. No one is suggesting that the UNM replace all of the diplomas awarded in the last century or more, just that it use a more inclusive seal going forward.

I can get behind that. Can't you?

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
10. Well, that should end all discussion on the matter. What were they thinking?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 02:33 AM
Apr 2016

[center][font size=10] It's too late to change.[/font]

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certainot

(9,090 posts)
7. university of nm shouldn't support limbaugh station 770 KKKOB
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 01:19 AM
Apr 2016

unm has no excuse for broadcasting sports on, and supporting with that station.

i once heard limbaugh say from kkob, after elizabeth warren said at the dem convention that corporations are not people "what are they then, indians?"

voter suppression, racism, conservation issues, global warming, energy issues, education funding , student debt, that station, while riding the unm lobo, is ALWAYS on the wrong side.

unm is one of 90 major unis supporting 270 limbaugh stations - it's absurd

kkob is the major voice of everything republican in the state. almost any major issue vs republicans can be protested at UNM. it's free for them, paid for by advertisers. get them to even discuss whether to stop broadcasting on kkob and their advertisers will flee, and the republican NM political machine will fall apart.

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
9. My God, that was an odd statement from Mr. Limbaugh, and he's full of oddness.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 02:18 AM
Apr 2016

Every time you hear something like this, you think perhaps he's tempted fate one too many times, then nothing happens!

I can't stand waiting until his karma finally springs its big surprise on him. It should be amazing, one of a kind! Spectacular.

Your comments on right-wing radio are well constructed. How such a fiendish thing happened throughout the country is a filthy crime.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
11. i hate to repeat it. and it is not odd.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 03:22 AM
Apr 2016

odd is the quality one gives to something that is different and could have value

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
8. So glad to have watched this link. Thank you for posting it.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 02:08 AM
Apr 2016

They overcame incredible obstacles, more power to them. Tremendous spirit, tremendous community.

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
15. Had no idea. It's so well done, wouldn't have guessed its producer would post here.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:13 AM
Apr 2016

Great information on it at Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reclaiming_Their_Voice:_The_Native_American_Vote_in_New_Mexico_%26_Beyond

Congratulations. I hope to watch it again soon.

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