Second judge says Clinton email setup may have been in 'bad faith'

[snagglepuss]

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Source: Reuters - Tue, 29 Mar 2016 20:08 GMT

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NEW YORK, March 29 (Reuters) - A second federal judge has taken the rare step of allowing a group suing for records from Hillary Clinton's time as U.S. secretary of state to seek sworn testimony from officials, saying there was "evidence of government wrong-doing and bad faith."

The language in Judge Royce Lamberth's order undercut the Democratic presidential contender's assertion she was allowed to set up a private email server in her home for her work as the country's top diplomat and that the arrangement was not particularly unusual.

He described Clinton's email arrangement as "extraordinary" in his order filed on Tuesday in federal district court in Washington.

Referring to the State Department, Clinton and Clinton's aides, he said there had been "constantly shifting admissions by the Government and the former government officials."

Read more: http://news.trust.org/item/20160329195006-pig0c

[jalan48]

1. I'd say conducting all her public work on a private server in her house is extraordinary. n/t.

[yourpaljoey]

2. She set up the Clinton Foundation/SOS pay-for-play connection

A move so brazen Trump is probably green with envy

[dorkzilla]

3. RW CONSPIRACY!!!!!

(that's how they do it, right?)

[7962]

13. See the post RIGHT AFTER YOURS

[dorkzilla]

14. Well, gotta give them points for consistency!

[blm]

4. Do any of you know anything about Royce Lamberth? You'd be ashamed of cheerleading him

knowing he is one of the most RW partisan judges ever to sit on any bench.

He is not impartial - he is fiercely partisan against Democrats and Democratic policies, and rules as such. Sometimes, my fellow Sanders supporters surprise me with how LITTLE you understand about the motives of people like Lamberth. When you cheerlead Lamberth and his ilk and then also claim "Clinton will say and do anything to win", I sometimes wonder if you have mirrors in your own homes.

[JonLeibowitz]

5. It's LBN. Anyway, Sullivan made the same decision, doesn't appear as if partisanship is a factor.

[blm]

6. With Lamberth, partisanship is ALWAYS a factor.

And real Democrats would know that, by now.

I don't care about posting it as 'news'. It's the replies, as if Lamberth is an honest broker. You know - like you are implying.

I guess I respect Sanders more as an honest lawmaker - clearly some claiming to be one of his supporters do not and will say anything, including the parroting of RW talking points, if they think it will further smear HRC.

[LiberalElite]

7. What's with the "real Democrats" stuff?

I just looked you up expecting to see your favorite group is Hillary Clinton. Hmm.

[dorkzilla]

11. Just did the same

[blm]

16. Because you haven't paid attention to my consistency - I was an early HRC block, and for pretty much

calling them out on inaccurate statements that were demonstrably false. Sorry if my preference for facts is annoying to you, as well.

[LiberalElite]

19. Hooo boy I haven't paid enough attention to your consistency???"

You really are something special, aren't you? Now I'm going to pay even less attention. You're going on Ignore.

[blm]

22. Yes - I am. I'm honest and consistent.

Not surprised when some put me on ignore, either.

[LiberalElite]

26. You'are also

pretty presumptuous and arrogant. I'm not surprised you don't know that.

[blm]

28. Well, people who prefer their popular narratives over facts seem to think so, anyway.

Good thing I have NEVER given a sh!t about that, eh?

[7962]

21. "real Democrats" means NO disparaging news about Hillary. True or not

[blm]

25. That's not accurate, 7962. It means I've been blocked by HRC group for preferring accuracy

and I annoy some of my fellow Sanders supporters for calling out posts that appear to validate years of propaganda from RW lie machine.

Don't really care much if it is not appreciated by those inclined to not appreciate counters to their preferred narrative.

[JonLeibowitz]

9. Was partisanship why he ordered Nixon's testimony about watergate released?

A federal judge in Washington has ordered the release of hundreds of pages of President Richard M. Nixon’s 1975 testimony about Watergate. The judge, Royce C. Lamberth III of the Federal District Court for the District of Columbia, wrote in a decision issued Friday that “nearly 40 years later, Watergate continues to capture both scholarly and public interest.” The Obama administration objected to the release, citing the privacy of people mentioned in the testimony. But Judge Lamberth wrote that the “undisputed historical interest” in the testimony, among other factors, far outweighed “the need to maintain the secrecy of the records.” The transcripts will not be released right away; the government can appeal the decision. Stanley I. Kutler, a leading Watergate historian who filed suit to get the documents last year, said that Nixon’s grand jury testimony was “a rare opportunity to hear him — what should I say? — unplugged. There are no aides, there are no lawyers, there are no spin doctors.” With the possible penalty of perjury over his head, Professor Kutler said, “My guess is he told those people the truth.” A spokesman for the Department of Justice, Charles S. Miller, said the agency was reviewing the judge’s decision and had not determined its next step.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/30/us/30brfs-JUDGEORDERSR_BRF.html

[dorkzilla]

17. He's so partisan...

An angry federal judge denounced Interior Secretary Gale A. Norton on Friday after officials in her agency weighed cutting off federal checks to American Indians suing the government for past royalties.

Attorneys for Indians seeking billions of dollars in the suit asked for an emergency hearing before the judge, citing Interior Department memos directing a temporary halt to all communications with Indians. One memo said some payments had already been stopped, and another said they might have to be stopped.


"Has Secretary Norton decided to declare war on the Indians in this litigation?" U.S. District Judge Royce C. Lamberth barked at Sandra Spooner, the Justice Department lawyer representing Norton and her department. "It comes across as absolute, direct retaliation."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2937-2004Oct2.html

[blm]

18. LOL - No comparison.

If Lamberth had ORDERED measures that would continue the investigation of something partisan against Republicans, now THAT would be an equalizer.

[JonLeibowitz]

24. Judges don't 'order investigations', you may not know how our judicial system works.

Nor is that what he did here.

He did grant a access to Nixon's records, same as here. Nixon, you may recall, was a member of the GOP.

[blm]

27. I misspoke - I should have referred to rulings in peripheral matters.

Don't need to be told who is GOP and who isn't, thank you.

Pretty damn familiar with BFEE - from even its EARLIEST days, pre-Nixon WH. Thank you.

[dorkzilla]

12. Total monster of her own making

Can't blame anyone for the shitstorm she finds herself in but HER.

[tularetom]

10. I knew every bit of that

So presumably, Ms Clinton, who is a lot more in touch with political currents in Washington, knows it as well. For somebody who is always whining about having a target on her back, she seems determined to give them ammunition to shoot at her.

Any damage from this email debacle is purely self inflicted and she has nobody to blame for her current predicament but herself.

[grasswire]

15. yes, that is so

There is no excuse for what she did, even if we are generous enough to believe her spin about it.

[blm]

20. I get that - I also get that people here are thinking Royce Lamberth is impartial.

Some of us know him as an absolute partisan, and so do you, tutom. Come on...we're better than this.

[Cryptoad]

8. Its over 24 hours old,,,, not LBN

[whereisjustice]

23. I'm told by her supporters that she'll "cut it out" when she's president.

[redstateblues]

29. Judge Lamberth is a Reagan appointee-Sanders only path to the nomination-

pathetic

[Omaha Steve]

30. Locking after a review by forum hosts

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