Oregon standoff: 4 holdouts all in FBI custody as occupation ends (live updates)

[uppityperson]

Source: OregonLive



The four remaining occupiers of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge surrendered Thursday morning, bringing an end to the standoff on its 41st day.

Jeff Banta, Sean Anderson, Sandy Anderson and David Fry were taken into FBI custody. Fry was the last to surrender, finally emerging after an extended phone dialogue with supporters who tried for over an hour after the others left to get him to walk out.

FBI agents in armored vehicles had moved in Wednesday night on the four still at the refuge, hemming them into their camp and insisting they put down their guns and surrender.

Also Wednesday night, the FBI arrested Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy at Portland International Airport. He faces federal charges related to the 2014 standoff at his ranch. Bundy, 74, was booked into the downtown Multnomah County jail at 10:54 p.m. His booking mug shot was released Thursday morning by the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office



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11 a.m.: Authorities say Fry is in custody. The standoff is over.

10:35 a.m.: Fry says he is speaking with an FBI agent.

(Clip)

10:27 a.m.: Fry says he doesn't care about the movement anymore. That he's doing this for himself.

10:17 a.m.: Fry says he's pointing a gun at his head.

10:11 a.m.: Fry says his biggest fear is being raped in jail.

9:56 a.m.: Three of the four occupiers are in custody of the FBI. Jeff Banta, Sean Anderson and Sandy Anderson each face a federal conspiracy charge for their role in the occupation, joining 12 others already arraigned on that charge.

9:55 a.m.: Fry says he is declaring a one-man war on the U.S. government, saying he wants "liberty or death."

Read more: http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/02/watch_live_video_feed_from_the.html#incart_maj-story-1

[sharp_stick]

1. That guy is out of his mind

I'm starting to think he needs a hospital with nice soft walls and a coat with arms that tie up in the back instead of a jail.

[Warpy]

35. I said from the beginning that they all needed their rear ends shot full of antipsychotics.

A week later, we'd know if they were legitimately insane or just garden variety rebels looking for a cause. I'm betting on the former for Fry. The latter is probably true for the Bundy boys because crime was paying so well.

I'm delighted that old bastard Cliven is now facing prison. It's about bloody time.

[NRaleighLiberal]

2. such a breathtaking sense of narcissism in this last holdout

I've been listening for half an hour or so - feels like I've lost countless brain cells.

[uppityperson]

5. Is there another vid link as the one at oregonlive didn't work for me?

He is a paranoid young man, in over his head. I hope he gets help, not suicides himself.

[handmade34]

7. ...

[uppityperson]

8. Thanks, been offline a few days. FBI just cut off Fry's phone

[avebury]

3. Fry won't have to worry about being raped in prison.

They will probably order a psych evaluation on him and he will probably be declared incompetent to stand trial and he will be put in a rubber room.

This woman talking to him is feeding him total BS. Most people simply will not care for Fry because he is coming across as a total lunatic. To be heard you must first be rational.

[hobbit709]

12. Or at least appear to be rational.

[avebury]

4. The Feds need to totally cut off his communication to the outside world.

It is obvious that none of the uber nut jobs will be able to talk him off the ledge.

[uppityperson]

6. 10:57 a.m.: Fry says he is coming out

[Mendocino]

9. He has surrendered

no incidents.

[uppityperson]

10. Good, all the way around.

[jalan48]

11. Being raped in jail? Yeah, definite possibility. Law and Order! the Right Wingers love to cry.

[yellowcanine]

13. Ends with a whimpering David Fry asking for pizza and marijuana.

Don't worry David you can probably get the marijuana in prison, not sure about the pizza.

[womanofthehills]

44. David wanted pizza and Sandy Anderson wanted to go to the McDonalds drive thru

She also said she is always armed and doesn't know how she could live not armed.

[valerief]

14. I wonder if he got his cookie, cigarette, pizza, and hallelujah. nt

[rocktivity]

15. So ends forty days and forty nights of white chrsitian privilege

Had they not been white or (professed) Christians, that sanctuary would have been blown out of its foundation within the first twenty minutes.


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[jalan48]

19. We have a black President with the power to have done that-why didn't he?

[rocktivity]

23. Because it would have made him look racist, of course!

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But by not ending the standoff sooner, it makes him look timid and afraid of white people instead -- and it opens the door for others to follow in Fry's footsteps. Indeed, if he'd come down on Bundy in Nevada, I doubt this would have happened.

I fully realize that it was a decision between bad and worse. But you should always choose bad, because choosing worse makes you LOOK worse.


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[jalan48]

27. Obama afraid? The most powerful man in the world? Doubtful.

[William Seger]

29. There were good reasons to want to avoid violence

... and I really think most people will agree that it was handled well.

[uppityperson]

39. Another Waco would've been worse. Only 1 person died which is good. It made the occupiers look

like fools which is a VERY good result.

Eta, Clive Bundy has also been arrested for his thing last year.

[jmowreader]

47. It would have turned the lot of them into martyrs

Instead, Obama forced them to show the world what sovereign citizens really are...

[Shrike47]

16. Thank goodness that's over with no more bloodshed. Now for long, long prison sentences.

[calguy]

17. Now that this is over.....

Law enforcement investigators will be going in and documenting all the crimes that were committed and the damage that was done inside the refuge and the buildings. I'm sure enough additional charges will be added up to ensure these will be serving lengthy prison terms.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

18. I listened to that whole audio last night....

The last time I heard a guy go on like that was during a breakup with his wife.

[Bad Dog]

20. If you can't do the time,

Don't do the crime. I've got no sympathy for any of them. A bunch of pseudo revolutionaries reduced to tears. What a bunch of sad gits.

[markj757]

21. I'm actually saddened...

by the extraordinary patience and restraint the FBI has shown these law breaking armed adult criminals. Almost any other ethnicity or religious group of 4 armed people would never have been allowed this much leeway to so brazenly challenge law enforcement. I think it sends a terrible message about the unequal treatment of law enforcement in this country, just from a different perspective. And I don't think its something that happens in a vacuum without consequences, because it plays into the hands of those who preach we have a two tier justice system. And it feeds into a pessimistic view of law enforcement from those communities including myself, that the use of deadly force for people of color is significantly higher, but the ability to get justice for unjustified killings in those same communities is greatly diminished. And if your an American who cares about the rule of law, I don't care what color you are, this should be deeply troubling to you. Because in the future, one day, you or your children may find yourselves in the minority, with the value of your lives diminished in the eyes of the American judicial system.

[randome]

25. Can't disagree with you about law enforcement in general.

But I feel compelled to point out that the FBI may not be a fair comparison to local police officers since they're a national law enforcement organization. Unless they, too, have shown trigger-happy tendencies toward non-white ethnicities in the past.
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[Judi Lynn]

34. If you had been around to hear the streaming link last night, you'd have heard shrieking, cursing,

claims the FBI people were "going to ####ing hell", were "####ing idiots", etc., etc., etc., to the point you could imagine someone was shoving spikes under their spokesman's fingernails.

All the time, they were maintaining it was the officials who were not Christians, like them, were evil, etc., etc., etc. Astonishing lack of any form of self-control altogether. Completely odd, considering they were the ones who got themselves into this position.

It IS sad that these ugly people were given so much leeway, considering the treatment given all other groups of US American citizens.

Had any cultural, ethnic, or religious group attempted something like this it would have been vaporized on the spot, I have no doubt.

[mgmaggiemg]

22. finally...

thanks for posting

[turbinetree]

24. I want my god damn money back, in fact I think all of US...............................

want our money back from each and everyone of these people including the person from Nevada, the father and his dead beat crap shenanigans, that elected twit that wanted to go up there and be whatever she wanted to be.

I want to know how much in costs WE the people of this country had to pay and will have to pay to the state and the federal level which were incurred on this terrorist action, including all of the future court costs--------------------there isn't enough cattle on the fathers ranch to cover these costs

And if the tin foil hat "dude" is afraid that he's going to get raped in prison, well guess what SPARKY---------------you and your play mates should have thought about that before you decided to do your terrorist act -----------------because that what it is terrorism

[longship]

28. Father, Clive Bundy, was arrested last night at Portland airport.

He is going to be charged for his stunt last year and will likely go to federal prison with his equally deadbeat sons.

And that is very good news.

[turbinetree]

30. YES...............................

it is ----------------------now its time to pay the piper------------

[womanofthehills]

45. Clive Bundy wanted a public defender

But he has too much money!!

[SwankyXomb]

26. The Bundy Fundie Gunday (Extended Remix) is finally over

Now come the task of cleaning up the mess and compiling the charges. The latter may take years, and will still be done before the refuge is fully restored.

[hollowdweller]

31. Betting here as we speak they are going after more people involved in the Nevada standoff

[uppityperson]

40. Rape is not a joke. I suggest strongly that you edit or self delete.

[mopinko]

43. rape is not a joke, neither is it

part of the judicial system of punishment.
nor should it be expected/condoned as such.

[Javaman]

33. I guess philip j. fry chose liberty over death. LOL moron. nt

[Sunlei]

36. good it's over. Wondered about Fry he acted so wacky, if he would be taken alive.

[left-of-center2012]

37. "complaining that he couldn’t get marijuana"

After repeatedly threatening to shoot himself, complaining that he couldn’t get marijuana, and ranting about UFOs, drone strikes in Pakistan, leaking nuclear plants and the government “chemically mutating people,” the last occupier, David Fry, 27, lit a cigarette, shouted “Hallelujah” and walked out of his barricaded encampment into FBI custody.

[jmowreader]

48. And he just became a nonsmoker

[L. Coyote]

38. The day the hammer fell! Lots more arrests happening, new charges. Hallelujah!

***** LIVE: #OregonStandoff Ended - Cliven Bundy Jailed - #BundyTeaParty - Thread 2 *****

Sound off thanking public servants: Hat tip to the FBI and LEOs for their work and patience. #BundyTeaParty is over.

[63splitwindow]

41. Has anyone explained the "no hat" rule to them yet?

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[L. Coyote]

42. Willamette Week:six federal felonies: conspiracy, use of deadly weapon, obstruction, extortion

http://www.wweek.com/2016/02/11/nevada-rancher-cliven-bundy-charged-with-conspiracy-extortion/

Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy was charged Thursday with six federal felonies: conspiracy, use of deadly weapon, obstruction of justice and extortion.

Here is the full criminal complaint, released this morning.

[rocktivity]

50. And doesn't he STILL owe AT LEAST a million dollars in grazing fees?

I'm glad he was arrogant enough to think he could cross state lines unscathed. But would he still be at large if he hadn't? Why wasn't he busted sooner -- as in, right after that standoff in Nevada?


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[L. Coyote]

52. He came to OR to save Ammon's butt. Anything happening at refuge was legal jeapordy to Ammon.

If anyone got killed, even committed suicide, as part of Ammon's occupation, he would do the time even though he was already in jail. The #BundyTeaParty characters working so feverishly, Fiore, Graham, et.al., to save Fry were in it to save Ammon's ass.

[rocktivity]

53. "If anyone got killed, even committed suicide..."

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I'm very glad you made that distinction: if anyone dies (including by suicide) in the course of your committing a felony, you can also be charged with third degree or felony murder. But Cliven's charges were all related to the Nevada standoff -- he hadn't occurred any "legal jeopardy" of his own before going to Oregon?


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[L. Coyote]

54. Legal jeopardy falls to Ammon and Ryan Bundy as occupation leaders, so Dad is trying to save kids,

as is every other member of their radical group. Ammon's lawyer picks up Fiore at the airport and transports her, so all the while she is on the phone while driving in Oregon she is with Ammon's attorney! Fry and company are the greatest risk to Ammon and Ryan once they are jailed because the charges would fall to them, and that would likely mean never getting out of jail if someone had died. So what we had was Ammon's attorney and friends working to deter further charges by getting the final four out of there. Ironically, in the end the one who wanted this to end the most was Ammon Bundy.

Fiore and Cliven are good buddies. Fiore was involved before this, before burns too, she was at the Ranch with Cliven celebrating his victory over the feds. She is trying to spin this into her own glory and a seat in Congress. She needs to have Cliven and Ammon hung around her neck all race long.

[Little Tich]

46. I'm glad it's without a shootout. n/t

[GOLGO 13]

49. It's called SURRENDER. Learn to say it teabaggers.

We have won & your side has lost...again!

[truthisfreedom]

51. Good job, FBI!