Breaking: Trump (20.1%), Cruz (19.4%) and Rubio (18.6%) ALL Within 2 Points In Iowa (post debate)
Source: Opinion Savvy Polling
The race has narrowed thanks to several key factors: expected evangelical turnout; the Cruz voter scorecard debacle; and Trumps debate absence. Among those who watched the Republican debate, voters prefer Cruz and Rubio to Trump by a margin of 10 points. As the results came in, there was a marked shift in support for Rubio on Saturday night, likely as a result of Cruzs mailer mishap. Nevertheless, Cruz maintains relatively strong performance among evangelicals, who we expect to comprise nearly 48% of caucus-goers.
Read more: http://opinionsavvy.com/2016/01/31/2851/
here comes Rubio thundering down the stretch , he is still the most dangerous long term...
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Rubio doesn't have the experience to win the general.
hatrack
(59,584 posts)I don't think he can win, given that he generally repels anyone not rabidly concerned with getting their Armagedd on, but the sooner he goes, the better.
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)Cruz is no worse than him, he just is going at it differently, out and out channeling the craziness of the evangilicals.
But, he is a lot less promising general election candidate than Rubio, who is this year's GWB, the one who has put on a veneer of moderation and has looks and charm.
I want NOTHING to do with him as their general election candidate, because he will win, and it might not be close by the time the media gets done destroying either Hill/Bernie and makes him out to be a more wonderful Ronald Reagan.
Herman4747
(1,825 posts)Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)nm
hatrack
(59,584 posts)Wracking my brain here, but to no avail . . .
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)This is kind of enjoyable.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)they ALL lose that one !!!! LMAO!!!
big_dog
(4,144 posts)Rubio needs Jebbies 4% and Christies 3% plus Kasich's 4%
book_worm
(15,951 posts)not sure about this poll, never heard of it. Rubio doing much better than other polls.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)and what is their polling track record?
Nyan
(1,192 posts)Not Rubio. They're not gonna go for safe at this point.
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)Captain Combover had like a 20 point lead on the Waterboy two days ago. No way he could close the gap that quickly.
trusty elf
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BlueStater
(7,596 posts)Fuck. I have no idea what anyone could possibly see in that little pissant Rubio.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)them before? Any past polling performances to compare to?
Who's the funding source? Is this an outfit that "knows the territory" in Iowa? Are they in the tank for one or another of the GOP candidates? Is Tom Cruise really gay?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)I distinctly remember "voting irregularities" in the GOP primary just a few years ago... In fact if memory serves me correctly, Iowa was called for Romney but it was reported weeks later that Santorum actually won. This is just presswork so the GOP can ignore their voters and select a candidate they prefer.
benh57
(141 posts)He's the only one that seems to make sense for the Repubs.
He's a moron of GWB level, what with his personal finances and all, but he's not nuts like Trump or hated like Cruz.
However, the delegate math seems to be favoring Trump currently.
achsadu
(41 posts)This outfit is associated with the Washington Times and has no track record. I will take anything that poll suggests with more than a grain of whatever.
achsa.
Tess49
(1,579 posts)world wide wally
(21,742 posts)Just to hear the bullshit out of his mouth over that one.
trillion
(1,859 posts)Rubio is nuts but I'd prefer him over the other two.
Rubio wins the general election easily ...
I want nothing to do with him, knowing those assholes will have control of POTUS the House and Senate likely for the next decade ...
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)Will that put Florida and Ohio into the Republican camp? If it does the math begins to look very scary.
Ohio
Florida
Iowa
Wisconsin
and the Romney states and the election goes to Congress.
The firewall may be Wisconsin. Colorado is meaningless unless the Democrats win Iowa. The Republicans must have a 10+ electoral state in addition to Ohio, Florida, and Iowa.
I have a tough time finding any Romney states that the Republicans will lose in this election. Perhaps North Carolina? Indiana? Right now North Carolina is the only Romney state listed as a toss up.
The vibe here is not great ...
08 was anti-incumbent, a LOT better environment for a democrat running after the, hands down, worst presidency we have seen in our lives, who was an R.
But, given the framing from Rs and their media whores for the last 7 years, what has been a good, I mean a very solid and good presidency, has been so muddled and tarnished, like with Clinton, this country is stupid enough to just want something different from Rs acting like 3 year olds throwing a tantrum and will be REALLY open to electing an R who has not staked the extraordinarily hard right positions most of these idiots have.
MBS
(9,688 posts)He has no agenda except his own personal ambition.
He is just as conservative, only with a telegenic veneer of superficial acceptability.
And more dangerous because of that veneer.
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)Like GWB, he has created the VENEER of moderation, and he is better looking and more, gag, charming ...
The Rs will promote him as the sainted regeneration of Ronald Reagan and the national media will swoon over him like teenage girls did with the Beatles, literally ...
He will WALK to the nomination ...
trillion
(1,859 posts)I'm betting same thing.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Another tight race...
Bigredhunk
(1,349 posts)Who knows what to believe?
I'd rather see Cruz be their nominee b/c I don't think he'd stand a snowballs chance in hell of winning in November. I could see enough dumb people getting swayed by Trump to make it scary close.
Ana Hauhet
(67 posts)the orange troll, green grinch and lil baby jesus!
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)MBS
(9,688 posts)The commentator also accurately describes Rubio (and Rubio's ad) as "sleazy and pandering" and "obviously fake". Yup, that's Rubio in a nutshell.
MBS
(9,688 posts)He is an empty suit, driven 100% by personal ambition, rather than by any desire to help the country. He also has a shockingly irresponsible and lazy work ethic (his energy being consistently directed toward himself, and not to the job he was elected to do, whether it's the state legislature or US Senate), and he has zero integrity.
All of which means that he will not hesitate to say anything and do anything to get elected.
I very much hope that the voters will not be swayed by Rubio's telegenic, "youthful" looks (something his campaign is promoting shamelessly) , and that they will see the utter lack of integrity within. But my confidence in the voting public is shaky at best.
The Democratic party has really got to be at the top of their game this year.
It would be ever so helpful if we could replace DWS and get a truly competent, articulate and clever DNC chair on board ASAP.
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)Rubio is preferable to Cruz which I consider the worst by light years.
As far as Trump I think he is the preferable of the three since he has absolutely no core. I think we might actually get moderate Justices from him. Cruz and Rubio would give us more Scalias.
If I had to chose one of the three it would be Trump.
NascarDrivingJesus
(5 posts)Opinion Savvy Polling = Washington Times (GOP establishment mouthpiece)
Trump is around 30% in most legit polls, including Selzer. If he wins Iowa and New Hampshire, it doesn't matter who finishes second or third. He's already running pretty strong in South Carolina.
It's all getting a bit fishy, the GOP-MSM once again pushing this narrative about a "surging" Rubio with ZERO evidence to back it up. He's gained only 3 pts in Iowa (5 pts ahead of 4th placed Ben Carson), while Trump has overturned 8 pts on Ted Cruz and retaken the lead in Iowa. Knowing how the GOP operates, I'm guessing they've rigged the vote to deny Trump the nomination. Even "Villager" David Gergen is saying if Trump wins tonight, he becomes inevitable. The RNC have been crapping themselves for weeks at the prospect of Trump becoming the nominee and the conservative nutbase officially taking over the party. Now that Cruz has been torpedoed, I don't put anything past them.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)Cruz having been born in Canada, and Rubio having been born in the US to non-citizens.