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FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Sienna86
(2,150 posts)And I don't believe in coincidences.
Duval
(4,280 posts)Sigh! We'll all be so glad when this is cleared up through the investigation. I've always been for Bernie, but the more I learn about Hillary, the more I support Bernie. I hope I don't have to vote with a clothes pin on my nose.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)warrprayer
(4,734 posts)This kind of crap is only going to get worse.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Not any reason for the Hillary campaign or the DNC to plant anyone or anything to harm the Sanders campaign.
Loki
(3,825 posts)Instead of being united in defeating the sick republican crazy party that will absolutely destroy whatever chance normal working people have in this country, we have those who are determined to undermine any of our candidates with innuendo, crass and disturbing accusations and downright ugly distortions. I have seen the enemy and it is us. Are we really ready to throw this country in the toilet? Some people here are becoming just as unhinged as the repukes. Good god, did you all forget what the Bush years gave us? Well, what is coming will be your worst nightmare.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)It may sound farfetched, but I would not rule it out.
You never know.
Hillary really wants to win, really, really wants to win.
Her ambition just to prove herself is visible.
So, I don't know. I don't like to think it would be possible, but I would not rule it out.
The debate schedule suggests that the Hillary supporters in the DNC and elsewhere will stop at nothing, not even ruining the chances of the Democratic Party to win in November, 2016 to get Hillary the nomination.
That debate schedule is hard to explain unless it is intended to downplay the Democratic Party's primary candidates.
The DNC and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz give the impression to many of us that they will stop at nothing to get the nomination for Hillary.
That is splitting our party. Wasserman-Schultz needs to resign.
We shall find out whether and what ties Uretzky has or had to the Hillary campaign. I wouldn't want to take a guess one way or the other, but the idea should be explored.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)will do everything their money can buy to get their way. No price is too high to keep a true progressive out of the WH.
In 2008 the Clinton campaign was known for their dirty tricks. Sadly this behavior will not help the party. It might help the 1% Oligarchy but not our party.
bowens43
(16,064 posts)and her friends in the DNC will do anything to insure her ascendance to the throne.
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Android3.14
(5,402 posts)That's why the only way she can win is to undermine democracy.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,876 posts)One should never trust operatives that play for the other side.
RandySF
(60,717 posts)Don't let these people near any launch codes.
stonecutter357
(12,703 posts)zeemike
(18,998 posts)The conspiracy theory...and it works every time because we know there are never any conspiracy...just convenient coincidences.
tecelote
(5,122 posts)Iraq Chemical Weapons / Nuclear Weapons (yellowcake)
Gulf of Tonkin
Asbestos
The Tuskegee Syphilis Study
Watergate
Cointelpro
NSA
Hillary is liberal.
Jeb is the smart one.
That's to start.
But, hey, let them bury their heads in the sand. It's easier.
Plus, if Bernie's staff is wrong, the investigation will show that.
Why wouldn't Hillary's staff look forward to proving this to be just that?
Let the investigation begin!
baldguy
(36,649 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)hate CT.
Orrex
(63,375 posts)Gman
(24,780 posts)THATS getting desparate. There's something there Sanders folks don't want to get out.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Get back to me Yahoo, when you have facts.
Next.
freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)Maybe it's just me, always looking for a trap.
But this is about a recommendation. That could be as small a thing as listing someone as a reference on your job application. Maybe Uretsky worked at NGP VAN and maybe his ex-boss, when asked, had something nice to say about him. That is not to say that NGP VAN steered Bernie's campaign to Uretsky in the first place. Maybe they just recommended him in a reference.
The idea that Uretsky was a plant is, as the Mediaite piece says, an insinuation on the part of an unnamed Bernie staffer. "Unnamed" gives me the sense that this is someone without much authority.
iandhr
(6,852 posts)Instead of moving on, they're trying to capitalize on their own mistake....their campaign accessed data they were not authorized to access (period).
Not to mention they chose the staffer they fired.
Trying to blame this on Hillary's campaign now just makes them look like silly amateurs.
CSStrowbridge
(267 posts)I agree with Sanders on a lot of issues and I think he would make a great president, but this is garbage. This is conspiracy level bullshit and his supporters should be upset about this.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)cstanleytech
(26,413 posts)they shouldnt have.
Thats not a bash at though Bernie because the fact is there is no evidence that he knew or approved so its not fair to hold him responsible for this persons actions anymore than trying to hold Hillary responsible for the actions of anyone who is supporting her unless there is evidence to prove that she sanctioned there actions before hand.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)ViseGrip
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Festivito
(13,454 posts)Hmmm.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)I read the story and I don't see what the headline says.
But I'm seeing a lot of people here swallowing it whole.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)The whole thing stinks IMO. Hopefully Bernie didn't fire an innocent dude prematurely as part of some zero tolerance "avoid the appearance of impropriety" policy. Smarter people than I have been taken in by treacherous operations from people who were thought to be trustworthy.
snot
(10,549 posts)WE NEED A TRULY INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION ASAP.
Note, Ratherizing Bernie would be a perfect solution for TPTB, since part of his message is that the system is "rigged" against the 99%. So Ratherizing him undermines ALL his messages as in, even if you respect his integrity, are you sure he really knows what he's talking about and isn't just paranoid?
Granted, all the paranoia in the world seems justified here, but. I'm not sure it's necessary to jump to conclusions, esp. when they might be very difficult to prove, esp. so long as all the records are in the hands of the opposition.
But we do need to keep up the pressure for a REAL investigation, with conclusions to come out asap!!!
McKim
(2,412 posts)I have sometimes wondered if some of our DLC Democrats are just Republican plants. If it walks like an R, sounds like an R and votes like an R then it is an R.
I am not sure about the plant idea for the Sanders campaign. It could have also just been someone very young who lacked experience.
The plant idea is possible too. It is fishy that NGP VAN recommended this person. We will never know.
It's a sad world where we pay more attention to this than the candidates issues and plans for our future. These are tough times and we need to have the press focus on issues and platforms, plenty to solve.