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Reter

(2,188 posts)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:26 PM Dec 2015

Paul Ryan on Donald Trump: ‘This Is Not Conservatism’

Source: NY Times

Speaker Paul D. Ryan condemned on Tuesday the proposal by Donald J. Trump that Muslims be barred from entering the country, saying it is “not what this party stands for.”

Offering a markedly stern reproach for Mr. Trump, who leads most polls of the Republican presidential field, Mr. Ryan said he had opposed including religion requirements in a recent bill to tighten refugee admittance restrictions because freedom of religion is “a founding principle of this country.”

“This is not conservatism,” he said at the House Republican leadership’s weekly news conference. “What was proposed yesterday is not what this party stands for and, more importantly, it’s not what this country stands for.”

Mr. Ryan has made it a policy not to comment on the presidential race, making his comments on Mr. Trump — “an exception,” as he prefaced it Tuesday — all the more striking. He said that in addition to having Muslim members of the armed forces and in Congress, there were many Muslims fighting terrorism alongside the United States.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/12/08/paul-ryan-on-donald-trump-this-is-not-conservatism/



Gotta give him some credit on this one, he was spot on here.
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Paul Ryan on Donald Trump: ‘This Is Not Conservatism’ (Original Post) Reter Dec 2015 OP
Welcome to the hell you created numbnuts! Pharaoh Dec 2015 #1
Ryan needs to get out of the gym more often C_U_L8R Dec 2015 #2
Mr. Ryan is a FOOL houston16revival Dec 2015 #3
I agree. It's not Conservatism. But it is Exactly What Today's GOPNRA Wants. onehandle Dec 2015 #4
Yes it is. (eom) StevieM Dec 2015 #5
Yes it is, and Ryan is SEETHING with beac Dec 2015 #10
yes it is. rockfordfile Dec 2015 #20
Actually.... Kelvin Mace Dec 2015 #6
The issue is this Lithos Dec 2015 #7
Not impressed....He/they just see an opportunity to get out from under Trump BeyondGeography Dec 2015 #8
Of course it is hibbing Dec 2015 #9
Listened to some conservative radio today. Every single one supported this. Midnight Writer Dec 2015 #11
actually, it IS conservatism Skittles Dec 2015 #12
No, conservatism is pretending you're not assholes fbc Dec 2015 #13
This actually speaks volumes about how extreme Trump is Marrah_G Dec 2015 #14
Yes it is, Mr Speaker. It's exactly what your party stands for. sarge43 Dec 2015 #15
Sure it is, Pauly - OWN IT. nt LiberalElite Dec 2015 #16
BUT Ryan will vote for him if he wins the nomination! Maeve Dec 2015 #17
Good and bad. lark Dec 2015 #18
What Ryan means is "we don't say this stuff out loud." Nitram Dec 2015 #19

C_U_L8R

(44,809 posts)
2. Ryan needs to get out of the gym more often
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:32 PM
Dec 2015

We're all seeing a fine example of today's Republican Party on parade.
Goose-step and all.
The GOP may be be broken, but they certainly created and paid for it.
And yes this is Conservatism in all its pitiful glory.
Ryan is just embarrassed that everyone now knows it.

houston16revival

(953 posts)
3. Mr. Ryan is a FOOL
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:35 PM
Dec 2015

Trump is EXACTLY what the GOP and the Tea Party stand for

A different era would have labeled it, and it is an offensive term to some

WASP

White Anglo-Saxon Protestant

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
4. I agree. It's not Conservatism. But it is Exactly What Today's GOPNRA Wants.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:41 PM
Dec 2015

You made your bed. Lie in it.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
6. Actually....
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:51 PM
Dec 2015

It is precisely what the party stands for. The fact that he wasn't kicked out of the party for saying it proves this.

Lithos

(26,385 posts)
7. The issue is this
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 11:10 PM
Dec 2015

It isn't whether or not people like Paul Ryan believe it... it's a fact that they are doing these comments as an attempt to bring back the very same voter who is being attracted to this type of bigoted nonsense. They *know* these are their core constituencies, why else would they make the effort to woe them back?

L-

Midnight Writer

(21,314 posts)
11. Listened to some conservative radio today. Every single one supported this.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 12:43 AM
Dec 2015

Limbaugh, Levine, Beck, Savage, Gallagher and a local fellow who bills himself as "The Gun Guy". Not to leave out several guests on FOX NEWS (the hosts were not quite as enthusiastic, but they weren't exactly arguing with the guests).

I saw an interesting interview with a retired Republican Texas Congressman. He said the GOP is now the "Party of the Cranks". He said that all politicians have to deal with cranks, but the old way of dealing with them was to be polite and not offend them, while not explicitly agreeing with them.

The new GOP has decided to encourage, pander to and reinforce the Cranks, and now the Cranks control the message of the GOP.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
14. This actually speaks volumes about how extreme Trump is
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 02:07 AM
Dec 2015

Even the republicans are concerned about his hitler like speech. I am dating a republican (actually he is really moderate and I am bringing him over to the light side slowly) and he has never voted Democrat but he will vote for Bernie if Trump gets the nomination. I'm fairly certain with the current group of morons I can bring him over completely.

sarge43

(28,928 posts)
15. Yes it is, Mr Speaker. It's exactly what your party stands for.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:19 AM
Dec 2015

The only difference is Trump doesn't use code and dog whistles.

Maeve

(42,163 posts)
17. BUT Ryan will vote for him if he wins the nomination!
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 07:49 AM
Dec 2015

Eat it, Paulie-boy; you helped create it so you own it.

lark

(22,822 posts)
18. Good and bad.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 01:47 PM
Dec 2015

It is exactly what Repugs stand for, it's what they constantly preach, fear of the minorities, Muslims are bad scary people. Listen to Limpballs and (Ins)Hannity, it's truly a constant refrain. It's not what this country stands for is correct but I'm really surprised he noticed with his head constantly being up the rich's butt and his disdain for everyone who isn't rich.

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