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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 11:13 AM Aug 2015

Guatemala protests: Thousands call for President Otto Pérez Molina to resign

Source: CNN

Guatemala City (CNN)There were college students and teachers. There were also union workers and peasants. They came from across Guatemala with one message: "Enough is enough."

These protesters filled Guatemala City's Constitution Square -- a historic landmark that, according to Guatemalan authorities, holds 10,000 people -- throughout the day Thursday and into the night demanding the resignation of President Otto Pérez Molina. More people demonstrated in adjacent streets, unable to get to the main square.

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The embattled President, a 64-year-old former military commander, is accused of being the leader of a customs fraud scheme, an allegation that he denies.

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"Guatemala is such a beautiful country. It's just delightful, but these corrupt politicians have left our nation with nothing, like a skeleton. "

Ana Ruth Monroy, a nutrition major at San Carlos University, said she wanted to protest because she has seen how corruption has taken resources away from social programs that help those in need.

"It's infuriating to see how they steal. Our children die every day. Fifty percent of our children are malnourished, and authorities aren't doing anything about it," Monroy said.

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"We need those corrupt politicians to leave. They're thieves. They've taken away from our children and teenagers' food and school desks. We're teaching in classrooms that look like chicken coops," Bekker said.

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Read more: http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/27/americas/guatemala-protests/index.html





One hates to correct CNN (again) but it's not thousands, Guatemala's press says 100s of 1000s. I'm down here. It's 100s of 1000s if not more. People are out in all the streets in all the cities, not just the area that holds 10,000 in front of Constitution Square in the capital. You can't even drive around right now. Protesters shut down the highway entrances to major cities. Even in my small little town an hour away, they're are tons of people.





The indigenous population isn't holding back either because this president is a cold-hearted killer who slaughtered many indigenous people during the US-funded civil war. He's part of an elite Army group, the Kaibiles, that has no soul and mass-murdered 250,000 peasants, smashing babies heads against walls in front of their mothers. One requirement of their grueling training is to bond with a puppy during weeks of training and then kill it and eat it before graduation.

His political rivals are out there too trying to endear themselves and take his place but the main guy they back, Baldizon, backed by much of the business community, is a known thief too so who knows how this will go.

I posted another thread, with a DemocracyNow segment in the Latin America forum.
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1. Thanks for this very important info. We stand in solidarity
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 11:46 AM
Aug 2015

If I read your post correctly, you are there now? Please keep us informed and stay safe! The regime sounds like it wouldn't hesitate to use force.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
2. If we would try to understand
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 12:31 AM
Aug 2015

What is happening south of this border and other borders, we could understand why there is a migration wave all over the planet. We the workers, the 99% of all nations need to band together and take back what has been stolen.

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
3. Hoping the proven sadistic Kabil President won't try to fix things by committing another massacre.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 03:54 AM
Aug 2015

Guatemalans have seen far more than their share of evil acts of hatred from the right-wing oligarchs against the poor all their lives in most cases.

Catherina, you are an angel to take the time to share with those of us who are unable to know what's going on there. As we all know, we're not going to get the truth from our right-wing owned corporate "news" media.

The photos are great. They show what a massive expression this is by the population.

On edit:

By the way, I ran across that fact about "toughening" the Kaibiles by getting them to kill innocent, gentle, helpless puppies. Once they've gone that far, clearly there's no turning back. Their humanity has been flushed.

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
4. Found a reference to the Kaibiles and their sadistic exercise in killing and eating dogs.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 09:16 AM
Aug 2015


Pedro Pimentel Rios, Former Guatemalan Kaibiles Soldier, Sentenced to 6,060 Years Prison for Role in ’82 Dos Erres Massacre

March 13, 2012 by Brett Wilkins in Latin America/Caribbean, The Best of Moral Low Ground, War Crimes & Atrocities

A former member of an elite U.S.-trained and armed Guatemalan military unit has been sentenced to 6,060 years in prison for his role in the horrific slaughter of 201 people in a 1982 massacre.

. . .

The 1960-1996 Guatemalan civil war claimed more than 200,000 lives, with the U.S.-backed Guatemalan army responsible for the lion’s share of those deaths. But the staunchly anti-communist military rulers of the country were fully supported by the United States, which had overthrown the democratically elected reformist President Jacobo Arbenz, who threatened exploitative U.S. economic interests, in a 1954 CIA coup.

If the Guatemalan army was brutal, then the Kaibiles were a particularly barbaric bunch: as part of their graduation ritual, members had to fight and kill a dog with their bare hands, tear out its heart and eat it, and chop up the animal’s other organs and guzzle them down in a soup of blood.

The 1960-1996 Guatemalan civil war claimed more than 200,000 lives, with the U.S.-backed Guatemalan army responsible for the lion’s share of those deaths. But the staunchly anti-communist military rulers of the country were fully supported by the United States, which had overthrown the democratically elected reformist President Jacobo Arbenz, who threatened exploitative U.S. economic interests, in a 1954 CIA coup.

If the Guatemalan army was brutal, then the Kaibiles were a particularly barbaric bunch: as part of their graduation ritual, members had to fight and kill a dog with their bare hands, tear out its heart and eat it, and chop up the animal’s other organs and guzzle them down in a soup of blood.

More:
http://morallowground.com/2012/03/13/pedro-pimentel-rios-former-guatemalan-kaibiles-soldier-sentenced-to-6060-years-prison-for-role-in-82-dos-erres-massacre/

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This American Life on Guatemalan Genocide

Washington's role is a story not worth telling

By Keane Bhatt

Aug

01

2013

On the evening of December 4, 1982, President Ronald Reagan informed reporters assembled at an Air Force base in Honduras that he had just engaged in a “useful exchange of ideas” with Efraín Rios Montt. The Guatemalan military general was the most recent in a succession of U.S.-backed dictators who had been governing the country since the CIA first toppled its democratically elected president, Jacobo Arbenz, in 1954.

“I know that President Rios Montt is a man of great personal integrity and commitment,” Reagan continued. “I know he wants to improve the quality of life for all Guatemalans and to promote social justice. My administration will do all it can to support his progressive efforts.” In a question-and-answer period, Reagan also shrugged off accusations of human rights violations committed by Rios Montt and his military: “Frankly I’m inclined to believe they’ve been getting a bum rap,” he declared.

Just two days later, on the evening of December 6, a 20-member team of Kaibil forces—elite Guatemalan commandos—initiated a military operation that decimated the inhabitants of the remote village of Dos Erres in the Petén region. The murder count of over 250 only hints at the savagery: In a matter of hours, the Kaibiles raped children (ProPublica, 3/25/12), forced miscarriages by jumping on pregnant women’s abdomens (Inter-American Court of Human Rights Judgment, 11/24/09) and flung at least 67 children down a well to their deaths (Seattle Times, 8/10/11), among other atrocities.

Dos Erres was just one of over 600 towns to be ravaged by the military in a scorched-earth campaign by Rios Montt during his brief 17-month tenure. Like his predecessor Gen. Lucas García, he presided over a strategy to defeat the country’s leftist insurgency while also destroying its “civilian support mechanisms,” according to national-security documents unearthed by investigative journalist Robert Parry at the Reagan Library (Consortium News, 5/11/13).

More:
http://fair.org/extra-online-articles/this-american-life-on-guatemalan-genocide/

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The tip of the iceburg.

ALL of these guys need to go, every single one of them. They need to be in prison. Any way of life which uses tactics like this to preserve it is pure evil.


Catherina

(35,568 posts)
9. when you look into his eyes, it's just cold. No soul
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 06:07 PM
Aug 2015
Anyways I decided to settle a point of morbid curiosity. I took the opportunity to clear up some rumours I had been hearing concerning Kaibile training. I had heard that on the first day in ‘hell’ each recruit is given a puppy which they must name, love and keep as a pet for the duration of the training. Cute, right?

On the last day they supposedly cut off its head and eat it.

So I asked Geronimo, ‘…did you ever have a dog?’

¡Tan rico!

So delicious!

He immediately replied without any prompting from me, smiling at the memory.

¡Estaba muy hambriento!

I was very hungry!

I didn’t think he would be so straightforward about it.

¿Te sentiste mal?

Did you feel bad?

¡No no! No había comido en tres días.

No no! I hadn’t eaten in three days.

Excellent! That’s exactly what the US needed to keep its Central American dictatorships propped up in the 70s and 80s – dehumanized super soldiers.

Although, if the training is as bad as Geronimo made it out to be then its no surprise he jumped at the chance to eat his pet pooch Pedro.

¿Cuál era su nombre?

What was his name?

No me recuerdo.

I can’t remember


He really didn’t give a shit about the dog.

https://onchickenbuses.wordpress.com/2013/10/14/meeting-the-kaibiles/


I can't believe these monsters are still walking around free, with total impunity after what they did to people here. It takes a special kind of hole in your soul to bash babies brains against a wall while their mothers are screaming in agony.

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
13. It's obscene one of them has been in the President's office since election, isn't it?
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 05:35 AM
Aug 2015

This photo in the article linked by the one in your post shows a pair of eyes which immediately reminded me of what you have mentioned:

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They look dead, already, don't they?

Small wonder we learn the Mexican drug gangs have been hiring these monsters to help them with their innumerable mutilations and beheadings.

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
5. This should mean something: The current President used an alias at times during the war
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 03:56 AM
Aug 2015

upon the poor, mostly indigenous Maya, of Guatemala. Why would he have needed a phony name during that time?

From a quick google check:


The Pursuit of Justice in Guatemala

National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 373

Posted - March 23, 2012


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Brigadier General José Efraín Ríos Montt, flanked by General Horacio Egberto Maldonado Schaad
and Colonel Francisco Luis Gordillo Martínez, at their first post-coup press conference on March 23,
1982, National Palace, Guatemala City. ©Jean-Marie Simon
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Washington, DC, March 23, 2012 -- Today marks the 30th anniversary of the coup that propelled General Efraín Ríos Montt to power and launched the most violent period of the 36-year internal armed conflict in Guatemala. The National Security Archive and the North American Congress on Latin America (NACLA) mark the coup anniversary with the publication today of NACLA Report on the Americas, “Central America: Legacies of War,” containing feature article by National Security Archive’s Kate Doyle on “Justice in Guatemala.”

The entire NACLA Report on the Americas is available, here.


. . .

To what extent these improvements are sustainable remains an open question. It is not even clear whether or not Paz y Paz will keep her job. Two thousand and eleven was an election year, and as the public prosecutor and her allies labored to advance the rule of law, Pérez Molina and his right-wing Patriotic Party campaigned across the country on his plans to solve the security crisis with an “iron fist” (mano dura). On November 6, Pérez Molina won a strong victory over his rival, politician and businessman Manuel Balidzón, and on January 14 he was sworn in as Guatemala’s newest president. His election has dismayed human rights advocates who hold him responsible for the same genocidal crimes committed in the Quiché that will be debated in the coming Ríos Montt trial.

The public biography of Pérez Molina is silent on the matter.6 The little that is known about his past reflects the career of a talented and ambitious military man. He was an operations officer who came of age in the 1970s and rose from unit commander to Director of Operations (D-3), chief of the Kaibil training center and head of the Presidential General Staff. He was a product of the U.S. School of the Americas and left a trail of high marks and glowing evaluations. In the early 1990s, a power struggle inside the army landed him as head of the Intelligence Directorate, where he made his first real impression on the wider public when then president Jorge Serrano attempted an autogolpe, or internal coup, in 1993. Pérez Molina’s successful opposition to Serrano’s power grab made him stand out as a moderate among extremists, pitting him against the cabal of powerful intelligence officers known as the Cofradía (Brotherhood) that backed Serrano.

The United States took notice, and reports from U.S. defense attachés posted in Guatemala in the mid-1990s bubbled with enthusiasm and praise: one of the “Best and the Brightest,” said one cable, “intelligent, hard-working, dedicated and principled . . . unflappable under pressure, has strong command presence and possesses great self-confidence.” U.S. officials also noticed his role in the counterinsurgency, calling him one of a group of military progressives “with blood stains on their hands.”7 He was a “reformer,” not a hard-liner, a strategist, not a tactician, who believed in stabilization and pacification, what Guatemala scholar Jennifer Schirmer has called the “enlightened repression” of brutal military violence combined with population control, civic action, and development: the “Beans and Bullets” strategy of the Ríos Montt regime.8

There is no public information about where Pérez Molina served during the scorched-earth campaigns. He claims he arrived in Nebaj after the massacres in late 1982 with the goal of protecting devastated villagers, though he has refused to confirm the exact dates of his deployment.9 But the army’s own records of Operación Sofía, a violent counterinsurgency sweep through the Ixil triangle in July and August 1982, contain evidence of his presence on the field of battle. A report written on July 22 describes then major Pérez Molina and another officer, Major Arango Barrios—both listed as “paracaidistas,” the special airborne troops that led Sofía—attached to a patrol in a confrontation with “the enemy” near the settlements of Salquil and Xeipum. According to the document, the patrol killed four civilians in the clash, and “captured” 18 old people and 12 children. In a second Operación Sofía document, Pérez Molina appear/s as his alias, Major Tito, being transported by helicopter with another Paracaidista officer on July 27 between villages inside the killing zone.10


More:
http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB373/

This is really creepy to learn for people who never knew he had to use an alias in his OWN country for some reason, even as he filled a very high position in the military, and was a commander of the dreaded Kaibiles. I never knew until a few minutes ago.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
6. High population growth combined with corruption is not a good mix
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 08:43 AM
Aug 2015

Guatemala has more than tripled it's population in the last 50 years. What didn't triple is their land and resources. Soon their population will double again and everyone is going to have to share what's left.

Add in the few in power taking what is left and it's ugly.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
8. Solidarity. Molina is an SOA thug. Maybe the US will give him a pension & mansion in Miami
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 03:05 PM
Aug 2015

for his long service to the CIA and inhumanity after the people drive him out.

Name: Otto Perez Molina
Country: Guatemala
Dates/courses:
Info: 1985, Command and General Staff College (Commandant's List) Assassination, 1994: Chief of the G-2 (military intelligence) and on the payroll of the CIA, Perez Molina was in charge in 1994, when the General Staff was implicated in the assassination of Judge Edgar Ramiro Elias Ogaldez. (Allan Nairn, The Nation, 4/17/95)

The SOA played a key role in the three brutal military dictatorships that ruled Guatemala from 1978 to 1986. SOA graduates comprised four of eight military officials in the cabinet of Lucas Garcia , six out of nine under Rios Montt, and five out of ten under Mejia Victores.

http://www.soaw.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=239


The Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation (WHINSEC), formerly known as the US Army School of the Americas,[1][2] is a United States Department of Defense Institute located at Fort Benning near Columbus, Georgia, that provides military training to government personnel in US-allied Latin American nations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Hemisphere_Institute_for_Security_Cooperation
 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
11. K&R. Thanks for the first hand report. Guatemala holds a special place in my heart
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 06:50 PM
Aug 2015

wish I was there on the streets.

Solidarity!

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