New Surveillance Footage Shows Tyrone Harris Pulling Gun from Waistband, Police Say

[Purveyor]

Source: ABC NEWS

Aug 11, 2015, 6:27 PM ET

Police have released new surveillance footage that they say shows a teen pulling a gun from his waistband moments before he was shot by officers after allegedly opening fire on them.

According to St. Louis County Police, Tyrone Harris, 18, began firing at an unmarked car carrying detectives after shots were fired Sunday night near protests marking the anniversary of the death of Michael Brown.

According to police in a statement released today, the brief footage, from an insurance company, shows Harris "grab a handgun out of his waistband once shots are fired during the protest in the W. Florissant corridor seconds prior to the officer involved shooting," referring to the street on which the protests were located.

Earlier, police said Harris "immediately turned and began firing" at the police car, which they say had its lights on, hitting the vehicle several times.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/surveillance-footage-shows-tyrone-harris-pulling-gun-waistband/story?id=33024044

[SoapBox]

1. I saw that footage on MSNBC...

Why the hell were all those kids/people out there?

Sheesh...get your kids home.

[840high]

3. x10+++++

[jtuck004]

2. So he wasn't the shooter and was just defending himself, so they killed him because he had a gun.

Didn't chase down any of the racists with semi-auto rifles running around whether they were cops or not, who also said they had guns out for that reason.

No evidence he shot anything.

[7962]

4. So he was "defending himself" from cops who were in a lighted vehicle?

Boy thats really reaching for an excuse!

[Journeyman]

5. They killed him because he "began firing at an unmarked car carrying detectives" . . .

This may or may not prove the truth, but on the face of it -- if accurate -- I perceive an incredible difference between arseholes carrying guns around trying to intimidate protestors and people actually firing guns, whether or not they are a lousy shot.

[jtuck004]

8. You saw that on video or that is a statement of a witness or self-serving police or...?

I have not seen any independent evidence of what has become a standard police line.

They said they heard gunshots. There is video of him pulling a gun AFTER the shots, and then their testimony that they began to chase him down in an unmarked vehicle.

If he pulled a gun to defend himself against what any white person would have perceived as a credible threat,

- I mean, there doesn't appear to even have to be gunshots for these white ass holes to come out of the woodwork with the things they fondle on bridles around their necks, eh? -

and then armed deputies came at him out of that scene with an unmarked vehicle...it is entirely possible they provoked a murder.

[GGJohn]

9. Did you even read the article?

He shot at a police car with it's lights on, in what world of yours is that defending yourself?

You say no evidence, the video says different.

[jtuck004]

10. I read that they "said" he did all this shit, which later, instead, shows him doing something else,

so perhaps there is some fucking magic time between when he was shown on video - not shooting - which conflicts with their original statement that said he was shooting, and when a car full of unidentified men ran him down and shot him with the intent to kill him.

There may be a problem with perception if people don't want to accept the official line again.

[GGJohn]

12. The only person with the perception problem is you.

The article doesn't say he started the initial shooting, it says that after the first shots were fired, he pulled a gun out of his waistband, which the video CLEARLY shows, then he runs across the street out of the view of the camera, that's when he probably started shooting at a cop car with it's lights on.

And him carrying a gun was illegal in the first place, he's too young at 18 to legally own or carry a handgun.

[jtuck004]

29. "that's when he probably started " < If you don't mind, I'll go find someone not faith-based. bye

[GGJohn]

31. Faith based?

That's crap, I've roundly criticized the cops when they've been wrong, but this video is pretty damning to the teen and seems to back up the cops story.

[fbc]

20. An unmarked car. Which lights were on? the headlights?

[GGJohn]

22. You are aware that unmarked police cars do have reds and blues?

All police cars, whether marked or unmarked, have red and blue lights and very often, white strobe lights.

[fbc]

37. I am aware of that

But with police reports, it's best to ask for clarification.

[GGJohn]

38. When they say the lights were on,

I'm assuming they mean the reds and blues were on responding to the report of shots fired.

[Alittleliberal]

28. Did you see the video?

Why is he in a big group of people that start running away from something he turns around and pulls out the gun after everyone starts running.

[GGJohn]

32. Read the article.

They started running because of the initial gunfire, that's when he pulled his gun out of his waistband and started shooting at the cops.

[Alittleliberal]

33. You're right, my mistake

[GGJohn]

34. No problem.

[blackspade]

6. Rank bullshit.

They contradict themselves in the same statement.
I don't believe a word the cops say.

"...Tyrone Harris, 18, began firing at an unmarked car carrying detectives after shots were fired Sunday night near protests..."

Then this:

"According to police in a statement released today, the brief footage, from an insurance company, shows Harris "grab a handgun out of his waistband once shots are fired during the protest..."

So shots were fired at a police car, supposedly, then Harris tucks a hot loaded gun back into his pants only to then pull it out again just in time to be shot and killed by the fucking gang in blue?
Bullshit.

[bvar22]

11. !

Nothing to add.

Has anyone here tried to tuck a hot revolver that has been fired several times into their waistband?
If not, boy are YOU in for a surprise.

[GGJohn]

13. Where are you getting this tucking a hot gun in your waistband?

The article states that he only pulled his gun and started shooting at the cops after the initial gunfire, they're not saying he did the initial shooting.

[7962]

16. Holy crap how hard is it for folks to comprehend an article?? Jeeeze!!

Unless you already have your mind made up before you even read it

[GGJohn]

17. Very true.

I'm shocked that someone hasn't yet claimed the police doctored the video to cover up a murder by cops.

[bvar22]

18. PLease read post #6,

then go back and read it again.
After that, see if you can come up with an intelligent comment to which I will respond in kind.

[GGJohn]

19. Again, the article states that he only pulled his gun out of his waistband

after the initial gunfire, so I'm thinking that you are saying that the cops said that he did the initial shooting, tucked the gun back into his waistband, then pulled it again and started shooting at the cops.
No where in the article does it say the cops believe he did the initial shooting.


And as far as your bullshit snark, get lost.

[7962]

21. Let me try to help you out:

He grabbed a gun out of his waistband AFTER SHOTS WERE FIRED. It doesnt say HE fired the first shots and it doesnt say the shots were fired at the cops, only that "shots were fired". THEN he approached the cops and started HIS firing. The video shows him pull the un AFTER initial shots were fired somewhere nearby.
Is that a little clearer to grasp?

[bvar22]

23. Not really.

I would like to see a full video,
and witness statements.

How many times has the Official Story had to be changed after a couple of days?

I WILL tell you this.
If you fire a handgun, and then stick it in your pants,
you are in for a BIG surprise.
Why don't you try it?

[7962]

25. Oh holy shit. Thats NOT what he did!! He fired, they shot him!

he didnt fire the first shots. The gun wasnt hot when it was in his pants.

[bvar22]

30. I didn't say HE did it.

I asked YOU to do it as a little experiment. Let me know what happens. OK?

I was explicit in that I will wait a few days for an "amended" police report and affidavits from witnesses.

Since when has DU begun believing the 1st Cover Story released by our the Police or our government?

[GGJohn]

36. "I asked YOU to do it as a little experiment. Let me know what happens. OK?"

Why? What would be the purpose of this? How does this relate to the thread?

[GGJohn]

24. Thank you.

You said it far better than I did.

[7962]

26. Apparently not........

[GGJohn]

27. Some people are convinced that ALL police shootings are murder,

and no matter the evidence otherwise, they'll stick with their judgment.

[d06204]

14. Not Dead...

According to local newspaper, (stltoday.com) "He remained hospitalized Tuesday"

[blackspade]

15. thanks, i just caught that on a reread.

This article is so badly written it's pathetic.

[Humanist_Activist]

35. Where's the contradiction?

From what I can tell, Harris didn't pull out his gun until shots were heard, these were NOT the shots that were fired at the police car when he was shot.

So both statements don't contradict each other.

[blackspade]

39. They are claiming he shot the cop car.

The issue is the timeline that they have thrown out there.
It makes no sense.