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jpak

(41,757 posts)
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 02:54 PM Jul 2015

Firefighter Tells 911 Caller To 'Deal With It Yourself' As Teen Dies, New Audio Reveals

Source: Huffington Post

An investigation is underway after a New Mexico firefighter dismissively hung up on a caller reporting a shooting that led to the death of a local teenager.

Firefighter Matthew Sanchez was on dispatch duty last month when he got a call about the shooting of Albuquerque high schooler Jaydon Chavez-Silver, 17. The teen was at a house with around 10 other people when someone shot at the house five times, KRQE reports, striking and eventually killing Chavez-Silver.

In audio first obtained by KRQE last Monday, a 911 caller, clearly distraught, can be heard saying she is trying to give the victim CPR .

Sanchez asks if the boy is breathing. The caller says "barely," and can be heard encouraging Chavez-Silver to "stay with me."

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Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/new-mexico-firefighter-911-caller_55b791b4e4b0224d8833cef0

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Firefighter Tells 911 Caller To 'Deal With It Yourself' As Teen Dies, New Audio Reveals (Original Post) jpak Jul 2015 OP
OH MY FREAKING GOSH!!!! tblue Jul 2015 #1
What an arrogant scumbag. kristopher Jul 2015 #2
911 operators regularly hang up on people for being abusive. Xithras Jul 2015 #3
If 911 operators aren't required to help, what are they there for? Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #5
Fired at the very least! Charles de Gaudless Jul 2015 #17
obviously he isn't cut out to do this job demigoddess Jul 2015 #18
"they aren't required to help you." Wha??????????? nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #6
They just take reports of an incident and then dispatch people they also might offer advice cstanleytech Jul 2015 #12
The case you cite shows the asshole 911 operator getting punished. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #8
I would hope I would make allowances of profanity... Alkene Jul 2015 #4
I don't even know what to say anymore lillypaddle Jul 2015 #7
^^^ That :-( GliderGuider Jul 2015 #9
Fire this dick. SoapBox Jul 2015 #10
Sounds like a good candidate for the police force. fbc Jul 2015 #15
Disgusting. EEO Jul 2015 #11
Why on earth was a firefighter on 911 dispatch? Kurska Jul 2015 #13
25 years ago BumRushDaShow Jul 2015 #14
As a health professional, elias7 Jul 2015 #16
I had wondered Skittles Jul 2015 #19
They are trained, but experience is key elias7 Jul 2015 #22
With that kind of indifference, no wonder Blue_Tires Jul 2015 #20
UPDATE - 911 operator resigns brooklynite Jul 2015 #21

tblue

(16,350 posts)
1. OH MY FREAKING GOSH!!!!
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:06 PM
Jul 2015

Beyond the pale. That man is guilty of something close to murder. He must be arrested and tried like every other alleged criminal.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
3. 911 operators regularly hang up on people for being abusive.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:41 PM
Jul 2015

It's actually illegal to curse or be verbally abusive to a 911 operator, and there have been cases where people have even been arrested for it (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5615113). Most of the time, the operators will simply hang up on you if you get confrontational with them. If this operator is disciplined at all (which I doubt), it will be for his attitude, and not for hanging up. They aren't required to help you, but hey are required to be respectful.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
5. If 911 operators aren't required to help, what are they there for?
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 04:09 PM
Jul 2015

It seems like this guy was more upset that the women said "fucking" than that somebody was in urgent need of medical care.

This guy needs to be fired.

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
18. obviously he isn't cut out to do this job
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 08:47 PM
Jul 2015

his ego counted more than his responsibility to help someone like he was supposed to.

cstanleytech

(26,290 posts)
12. They just take reports of an incident and then dispatch people they also might offer advice
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 05:27 PM
Jul 2015

but they dont have stay on the phone probably if someones becomes abusive towards them just like anyone else who works call center doesnt have to stay on the line if someone abusive.
Is that applicable in this? No, I dont believe the person was abusive I think they were just clearly frustrated and the operator handled it poorly to say the least.

Alkene

(752 posts)
4. I would hope I would make allowances of profanity...
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:59 PM
Jul 2015

from someone who was witnessing their friend dying in their arms.

I would hope my precious ego would understand their panic.

Sanchez didn't. How cheap life must seem to him.

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
15. Sounds like a good candidate for the police force.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 06:39 PM
Jul 2015

Callousness in regards to human life? check.
Putting the need for respect before his duty? check

EEO

(1,620 posts)
11. Disgusting.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 05:24 PM
Jul 2015

That this kid had to listen to an outright piece of slime as one of the last people he would ever hear.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
13. Why on earth was a firefighter on 911 dispatch?
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 05:39 PM
Jul 2015

911 dispatchers are supposed to be trained to deal with a situation like this (gravely serious situation where someone is getting understandably belligerent).

I doubt firefighters have that kind of training. Why is a firefighter answering calls about a freaking shooting?

elias7

(3,997 posts)
16. As a health professional,
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 06:44 PM
Jul 2015

one of the most difficult things to do is to not be affected by people yelling at you, swearing at you, or being seemingly aggressive or abusive. As you might expect, this is a manifestation of fear or pain and not meant personally, but it is not easy, especially if the dispatcher is inexperienced. That being said, it is not remotely acceptible to hang up in this situation, not call an ambulance, not give advise about applying pressure to wounds and giving CPR.

Skittles

(153,154 posts)
19. I had wondered
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 02:44 AM
Jul 2015

surely first responders are trained to understand how people can behave during crises

elias7

(3,997 posts)
22. They are trained, but experience is key
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 12:00 AM
Jul 2015

Until you've been cursed at, yelled at, and blamed for bad shit a few times, it can really take you by surprise. But even with experience and training, it never feels good, and you really need to stay on top of your emotions, as it is easy to react badly to being attacked or abused when trying to help.

Fortunately, that type of behavior is not the norm.

But frankly, I don't understand how anyone, even if inexperienced, could hang up on a call like that. That person should not be taking 911 calls.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
20. With that kind of indifference, no wonder
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 11:31 AM
Jul 2015

Albuquerque's crime rate is sky-high...

A couple of years ago a friend of mine got an opportunity to move there with a promotion and a 30% salary increase, and she said NFW...

brooklynite

(94,517 posts)
21. UPDATE - 911 operator resigns
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 01:24 PM
Jul 2015
New Mexico firefighter who hung up on frantic 911 caller resigns

An Albuquerque, New Mexico firefighter who hung up on a frantic 911 caller attempting to save the life of a 17-year-old gunshot victim has resigned, according to media reports.

The firefighter, Matthew Sanchez, was working in the city’s dispatch center when he received a call from a woman who said her friend was “dying”. The firefighter hung up after the woman snapped at him, saying: “I’m not going to deal with this, OK?”

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/29/new-mexico-911-firefighter-resigns
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