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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 01:33 AM Jul 2015

President Obama Calls ISIS Fight "A Generational Struggle"

Source: NBC News

Jul 6 2015, 5:56 pm ET

President Obama Calls ISIS Fight "A Generational Struggle"

by Jon Schuppe

America's battle against ISIS, dominated so far by airstrikes and training opposition forces, must also include a campaign against the group's "twisted thinking," President Obama said Monday.

"This is not simply a military effort," Obama said in remarks after getting briefed on the anti-ISIS effort at the Pentagon. "Ideologies are not defeated by guns. They're defeated with better ideas."

To that end, Obama said the United States was stepping up efforts to counteract ISIS' online recruitment operations, and encourage other countries with large Muslim populations to increase economic opportunities for young people who are exploited by the terror group into joining their radical, violent cause.

"This larger battle for hearts and minds is going to be a generational struggle," Obama said.

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/watch-live-president-obama-speaks-fight-against-isis-n387521

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President Obama Calls ISIS Fight "A Generational Struggle" (Original Post) Purveyor Jul 2015 OP
Bush's legacy (n/t) thesquanderer Jul 2015 #1
Welcome to the Forever War . . FairWinds Jul 2015 #2
Descendant of us getting involved in the Gulf War. Fearless Jul 2015 #3
5000 days of continuous war and counting…. n2doc Jul 2015 #4
Got'sa stop duh tearrist !!! Phlem Jul 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2015 #6
puhLEEEZE: by 2017 they'll be our doughty allies against the insane MEQ death cult/honor-killin' MisterP Jul 2015 #7
Moderate Muslims are not doing enough LiberalLovinLug Jul 2015 #8
 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
2. Welcome to the Forever War . .
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 02:27 AM
Jul 2015

Veterans For Peace has a better idea . .

Say no to the Empire of Bases, and support
for aggression. Israel must learn, finally, to
be a good neighbor.

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
7. puhLEEEZE: by 2017 they'll be our doughty allies against the insane MEQ death cult/honor-killin'
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 02:10 PM
Jul 2015

clit-hackin' Kurd bashibazouks/Sunni FanaticTM Houthis/Israel

this year Israel's treating al-Qaeda fighters and we're acting as their air force

a few years back we were damned up and down for demurring on Syria, and before that Libya was right up there with the ACA

in 2001-4 it was unpatriotic to oppose going in to Afghanistan and Iraq

in the 90s it was an outrage that these cartels/AQ were popping out of nowhere and striking us poor tender innocent soft targets

in the 80s it was commie to complain about us feeding Azzam and Matta and springing them from jail as needed

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
8. Moderate Muslims are not doing enough
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 04:11 PM
Jul 2015

More than any other conflict in the Middle East, this is a tribal war. Bush disbanding the largely Baathist Sunni army and installing a puppet Shia ruler who has marginalized and blocked out Sunni legislators has exacerbated the problem. The Sunni/Shia conflict must be resolved by Muslims themselves ultimately. In the Christian religion, Protestants and Catholics learn to live in the same town, even in Ireland. Of course the US and western nations are also in their crosshairs based on our behavior back to the last century, but this ISIS army was formed to establish THEIR own version of a strict Sunni interpretation of Islam. Shia supporters are executed in the most violent fashion.

Its no surprise that Shia ruled Iran is helping to defeat this Sunni based terrorist organization. But Sunni Saudi Arabia could do so much more. They have a 500,000 army. Estimates of ISIS is at something like 20,000. If top clerics in both countries, including Egypt, Jordon, and all of the smaller Muslim states in that area would, whether Shia or Sunni, demand an end to this kind of extremism, and work together to that end, they could swarm ISIS camps en mass and wipe them out literally overnight.

But religion makes people act like children. "yes he did...no he didn't...yes he did....no he didn't...." Its far past time the more adult Muslims, who are moderate and should be embarrassed that their religion is reduced to some of their children (vicious adult children) bullying other children based on some decision thousands of years ago about bloodlines of rulers.

A coalition of Muslim dominated States could crush ISIS. No need for the US or any western nation to send troops. But one other thing religion does besides making people act like children is making them cowards. Cowards to first admit how childish they have been behaving.

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