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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 09:43 AM Apr 2015

Dick Cheney: Obama Admin Is The 'Most Damaging... Since World War II'

Source: TPM

Former Vice President Dick Cheney told a crowd of Republicans on Tuesday night that the Obama administration has been the worst in 70 years, according the Wall Street Journal.

The administration has been “the most damaging, certainly, since World War II,” Cheney said at an event hosted by the conservative Young America’s Foundation in New Jersey.

Cheney lambasted Obama's foreign policy decisions during the 30-minute speech, saying that he expected the Iranian nuclear negotiations to fail and arguing that America's traditional allies in the region have lost “all lost faith and confidence” in the U.S.

“We have a terrible situation now. We need leadership to turn it around,” Cheney said.

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Dick Cheney: Obama Admin Is The 'Most Damaging... Since World War II' (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2015 OP
Says the person who did the most to damage the 'faith and confidence' sinkingfeeling Apr 2015 #1
that and caused a complete financial collapse of our system. still_one Apr 2015 #21
There never has been a worser President everer BeyondGeography Apr 2015 #2
Why would anyone ever believe this man? think Apr 2015 #3
Believe him? BobTheSubgenius Apr 2015 #47
There are raving maniacs in bus stations... Frank Cannon Apr 2015 #49
Well you got the raving maniac part right. abakan Apr 2015 #62
Climb back into your mole-hole, dick. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #4
Not By A Long Way.. titanicdave Apr 2015 #5
I think he knows he and W were the worst . . . brush Apr 2015 #15
FFS. I am sick to death of hearing from this cretin. Laurian Apr 2015 #6
Typical republican projection. Bush Cheny actually worst, blame others on point Apr 2015 #7
New heart, same lame brain Zambero Apr 2015 #8
Dick Cheney, war criminal workinclasszero Apr 2015 #9
No Dick, that would be your administration. City Lights Apr 2015 #10
Dick would fit right in on this board... Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #11
SSDD. truebluegreen Apr 2015 #17
cheers m8 Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #20
Not really. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #27
What Cheney meant to say is, Obama did not start WWIII, and I find that damaging to our interests. Jefferson23 Apr 2015 #12
He's saying that the WWII US Administration was worse... Ghost Dog Apr 2015 #55
lol, probably so. Jefferson23 Apr 2015 #59
Really? Damaging to whom, him because Obama shut off his steady stream of cash? George II Apr 2015 #13
This from the mother fucker who did more to damage onecaliberal Apr 2015 #14
That's about right. Turbineguy Apr 2015 #16
god, if it/she/he exists... liam_laddie Apr 2015 #18
E-yechh. This Young America's Foundation conference looks like a real slice of hell. Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2015 #19
Young America's Foundation????? Why the Hell are young people listening to this ancient zombie????? LongTomH Apr 2015 #52
I agree with Dick chuckie29 Apr 2015 #22
You could make a case? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #28
Sorry. chuckie29 Apr 2015 #44
Obama is the worst president since FDR Renew Deal Apr 2015 #23
Time to take a hike BumRushDaShow Apr 2015 #24
So says the man whose war produced ISIS Botany Apr 2015 #25
When is this asshole going to die? Jesus, the world has had enough of him. nt valerief Apr 2015 #26
I wonder if there'll be dancing in the streets when he goes - he belongs in jail wordpix Apr 2015 #32
He belongs in a jail with a low dirt ceiling. nt valerief Apr 2015 #33
Freud would be proud. Coventina Apr 2015 #29
Why does anyone give Cheney a platform to express his opinion? Martin Eden Apr 2015 #30
spoke @repuke gathering & they still love him- that's how stupid they are wordpix Apr 2015 #34
I posted the follwing Comment at WSJ: Martin Eden Apr 2015 #40
thanks wordpix Apr 2015 #60
Because he has enough dirt on W to make Jeb pay attention? Retrograde Apr 2015 #51
Cheney has enough dirt on himself for burial Martin Eden Apr 2015 #56
$4.4 Trillion ME Wars + millions killed/displaced/maimed forever, thanks Darth wordpix Apr 2015 #31
I'm not even going to even click on this post. pangaia Apr 2015 #35
Negative barometer Geronimoe Apr 2015 #36
"Leadership" means "war" to Cheney and his ilk. Gotta keep the cash flowing to Halliburton. WestSeattle2 Apr 2015 #37
I guess he slept 4Q2u2 Apr 2015 #38
I challenge Dick to give away his Wall Street gains since 2008. Vinca Apr 2015 #39
How about the 3,281% return he made on his Halliburton stock 2004 and 2005? Botany Apr 2015 #42
What an excellent endorsement! Gregorian Apr 2015 #41
Well, he was speaking to the "conservative Young America’s Foundation" William Seger Apr 2015 #43
What? He Didn't Like FDR? F*** Cheney! Demeter Apr 2015 #45
Therefore he isn't. Orsino Apr 2015 #46
Darth Cheney-at it again. He's so pickled that he'll never die. damyank913 Apr 2015 #48
Hit the nail on the head as usual, dick ailsagirl Apr 2015 #50
Cheney makes me regret being a Universalist LongTomH Apr 2015 #53
Says the vile piece of dog shit who has done more damage to this country than practically anyone. 6000eliot Apr 2015 #54
No, that would be yours, Darth. treestar Apr 2015 #57
Evil speaks. blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #58
Go to The Hague and say that, Dick. n/t Bossy Monkey Apr 2015 #61
"Really, that's interesting" angrychair Apr 2015 #63
love how they pretend the Dubya disaster never happened Skittles Apr 2015 #64
Well if it's Dick saying that: Then Obama will go down as one of the best Presidents. YOHABLO Apr 2015 #65

sinkingfeeling

(51,448 posts)
1. Says the person who did the most to damage the 'faith and confidence'
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 09:44 AM
Apr 2015

in the USA by lying to allies about Iraq.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
49. There are raving maniacs in bus stations...
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:34 PM
Apr 2015

whose opinions have more value, on almost any conceivable topic. It truly is insane that the media in this country continually offer him a forum for his bilge.

abakan

(1,819 posts)
62. Well you got the raving maniac part right.
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 05:33 PM
Apr 2015

How any sentient benign, could give credence to his babble, is beyond me.

titanicdave

(429 posts)
5. Not By A Long Way..
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 09:52 AM
Apr 2015

is the Obama administration the most damaging, Dick.....it was YOUR administration that was by far the most damaging to our country and to the world in general.......so in your own words,......"go f**k yourself"....

brush

(53,771 posts)
15. I think he knows he and W were the worst . . .
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 10:21 AM
Apr 2015

so every chance he gets he bashes Obama.

It's the old switcheroo — saying look how bad this guy is so people forget about the two wars he and W started, the housing crisis, the busted economy, the lost jobs, the budget surplus squandered, the debt ran up — it plays to his teabagger base but the rest of us are not fooled.

Plus, we know pure evil when we see it.

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
6. FFS. I am sick to death of hearing from this cretin.
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 09:53 AM
Apr 2015

He needs to shut up and go away. Why would anyone give his opinion about anything a second thought.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
8. New heart, same lame brain
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 09:57 AM
Apr 2015

Cheney, former CEO of no-bid Halliburton, laments not having jumped headlong into yet another neocon-inspired Mideast war that would add $3 trillion or more to the deficit and reinvigorate the body bag business. Negotiations with Iran are likely fail, he says, not alluding to the fact that he is hoping for such failure since it would greatly enhance the possibility of war. All this is "damaging" and "terrible", says Cheney.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
9. Dick Cheney, war criminal
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 10:10 AM
Apr 2015
New York Times suggests war crimes prosecution of Dick Cheney
Posted on December 22, 2014 | By Joel Connelly

The New York Times has called for a “full and independent investigation” into torture of terrorism suspects, arguing that “any credible investigation” should include possible commission of crimes by former Vice President Dick Cheney and ex-C.I.A. director George Tenet.

The 534-page executive summery of the Senate Intelligence Committee’s exhaustive investigation “erases any lingering doubt” about the “depravity and illegality” of “sadistic tactics like ‘rectal feeding’” as well as water boarding and hanging suspects by their wrists, the newspaper argued Monday in an editorial.

The Times’ editorial came as two groups, Human Rights Watch and the American Civil Liberties Union, called on Attorney General Eric Holder to appoint a special prosecutor.


http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2014/12/22/dick-cheney-in-the-dock-nyt-suggests-war-crimes-prosecution/

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
27. Not really.
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 11:03 AM
Apr 2015

Most of the people who criticize Obama criticize him for doing things too much like Republicans. They have no good words for Cheney at all.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
55. He's saying that the WWII US Administration was worse...
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 03:28 PM
Apr 2015

... Presumably because he thinks it (eventually) supported the wrong side.

George II

(67,782 posts)
13. Really? Damaging to whom, him because Obama shut off his steady stream of cash?
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 10:14 AM
Apr 2015

Remember, Cheney was previously CEO of Halliburton, and still had/has ties to the company. Halliburton received BILLIONS of dollars in no-bid contracts to "rebuild" Iraq. He personally made millions of dollars from the Iraq war!

onecaliberal

(32,848 posts)
14. This from the mother fucker who did more to damage
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 10:19 AM
Apr 2015

American reputation than any other human on the planet.
Cheney is a war criminal. I'm sick of hearing what he has to say. Why is Chelsea manning in prison while this piece of shit is free to run his mouth?!?

Turbineguy

(37,322 posts)
16. That's about right.
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 10:26 AM
Apr 2015

FDR fucked up by beating Hitler instead of letting him turn the US into a Nazi Paradise.

EAT SHIT AND DIE, dick!

liam_laddie

(1,321 posts)
18. god, if it/she/he exists...
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 10:29 AM
Apr 2015

...outside our imaginations, should have a fine time applying the worst possible torture techniques to Cheney and all his lackeys; 43, Rummy, Wolfowitz (please take away his comb!), Condi, ad infinitum. They deserve nothing less!

chuckie29

(9 posts)
22. I agree with Dick
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 10:37 AM
Apr 2015

After World War II, this country prosecuted war crimes. This administration has declined to prosecute obvious war crimes.

You could make the case that the administration actually committing the crimes is worse but I don't want to get too picky.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
28. You could make a case?
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 11:05 AM
Apr 2015

No, I'm pretty sure the people who actually do crimes are worse than those who refuse to prosecute those crimes. I think you have to make a case to switch the two around.

chuckie29

(9 posts)
44. Sorry.
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 12:59 PM
Apr 2015

My bad. I keep forgetting that it is almost impossible to make sarcasm online obvious because of the outlandish things people believe. My original post was missing: .

Martin Eden

(12,864 posts)
30. Why does anyone give Cheney a platform to express his opinion?
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 11:15 AM
Apr 2015

HE was a principal architect of the disaster he's complaining about.

Martin Eden

(12,864 posts)
40. I posted the follwing Comment at WSJ:
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 12:03 PM
Apr 2015

Why would the WSJ (or any prominent publication with a shred of integrity) provide Dick Cheney with a platform to express his opinion? He was one of the chief architects of the disaster now unfolding in Iraq, and has been demonstrably and tragically wrong in matters of national security. Instead of pointing fingers at anyone besides himself, Dick Cheney should be begging forgiveness and/or facing indictment for deliberately misrepresenting the available intel to launch the war that was on the neocon agenda before 9/11.

Retrograde

(10,134 posts)
51. Because he has enough dirt on W to make Jeb pay attention?
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:43 PM
Apr 2015

IMHO, Cheney wants to be VP again, or at least get a position of power in the next Bush administration.

Martin Eden

(12,864 posts)
56. Cheney has enough dirt on himself for burial
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 03:39 PM
Apr 2015

He has no leverage to blackmail Bushco, unless he convinces them he doesn't care if he goes down too.

No, what we're seeing here is Cheney being treated like an elder statesman instead of a war criminal by the corporate media that is an accessory to the crime.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
31. $4.4 Trillion ME Wars + millions killed/displaced/maimed forever, thanks Darth
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 11:16 AM
Apr 2015

snip: The U.S. has spent and taken obligations to spend approximately $4.4
trillion on the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan not including the money requested for
FY2015. http://costsofwar.org/sites/default/files/articles/20/attachments/Costs%20of%20War%20Summary%20Crawford%20June%202014.pdf

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
35. I'm not even going to even click on this post.
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 11:29 AM
Apr 2015

Opppss, I did.

At least junior has mostly been keeping is mouth shut.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
36. Negative barometer
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 11:46 AM
Apr 2015

Since all is the opposite of what Cheney says, President Obama must be doing a pretty good job.

 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
38. I guess he slept
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 11:53 AM
Apr 2015

He must have missed Nixon.

He does not think Shrub was the worst President becasue he does not think of Shrub as the President.
He was just a guy that Chenney had his hand up his butt to make talk.

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
43. Well, he was speaking to the "conservative Young America’s Foundation"
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 12:50 PM
Apr 2015

Here's a pic of their clubhouse:


damyank913

(787 posts)
48. Darth Cheney-at it again. He's so pickled that he'll never die.
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:19 PM
Apr 2015

Why is it that, except for John McCain, the biggest war mongers are the ones that never put on a uniform before?

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
53. Cheney makes me regret being a Universalist
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 03:00 PM
Apr 2015

I frequently wish I could believe there's a white-hot metal plaque down in some circle of Hell, marked: "Reserved for Dick Cheney"

angrychair

(8,697 posts)
63. "Really, that's interesting"
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 05:53 PM
Apr 2015

Says PBO as he polishes his Noble Peace Prize medal while reading stories about lowest unemployment in over a decade and the highest stock market numbers in history and a federal deficit below the 50 year average and best of his presidency.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
64. love how they pretend the Dubya disaster never happened
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 05:55 PM
Apr 2015

Dubya never poked a stick into the hornet's nest, according to puppet master Cheney

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