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hack89

(39,171 posts)
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 12:40 PM Mar 2015

NASCAR: Indiana law fosters intolerance, exclusion

Source: Orlando Sentinel

Perhaps Indiana Gove. Mike Pence and state lawmakers should revisit the “religious freedom” legislation. They’ve officially lost NASCAR , a sport that, despite its growing diversity, still has a strong conservative base.

“NASCAR is disappointed by the recent legislation passed in Indiana,” said NASCAR Senior Vice President and Chief Communications Officer Brett Jewkes, in a statement released Tuesday.

“We will not embrace nor participate in exclusion or intolerance. We are committed to diversity and inclusion within our sport and therefore will continue to welcome all competitors and fans at our events in the state of Indiana and anywhere else we race.”

Read more: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/george-diaz-en-fuego/os-nascar-indiana-law-20150331-post.html



Good news. There are fewer sports more dependent on corporate sponsorship than NASCAR. The heartening thing from this entire mess is how corporations are now willing to take a stand on the issue of gay rights and discrimination. This is truly a sea change in America.
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NASCAR: Indiana law fosters intolerance, exclusion (Original Post) hack89 Mar 2015 OP
A statement is cheap TriplD Mar 2015 #1
Nice words turbinetree Mar 2015 #2
I'll believe they're REALLY concerned when they cancel the Brickyard 400 groundloop Mar 2015 #3
Yep, they do have time to boycott. eom LittleGirl Mar 2015 #7
Corporations are taking a stand because...IT'S GOOD FOR BUSINESS! randome Mar 2015 #4
Actions speak louder. Liberalagogo Mar 2015 #5
Actions Speak Louder Than Words, Cancel The Brickyard 400 If The Law Isn't Repealed... Corey_Baker08 Mar 2015 #6
I am surprised NASCAR made a statement against the law. iandhr Mar 2015 #8
I am a NASCAR fan bullsnarfle Apr 2015 #20
may not be complete but this is a BIG thing for nascar to do dembotoz Mar 2015 #9
Hey, at least it's progress. SpankMe Mar 2015 #10
start of a sea change? Backwoodsrider Mar 2015 #11
I wouldn't exactly hold my breath War Horse Mar 2015 #12
NASCAR? NASCAR has the integrity to call out bigotry?!? Dawson Leery Mar 2015 #13
NASCAR? Jaw, meet floor. Myrina Mar 2015 #14
Me too but you have to realize that NASCAR is just a function of corporate sponsors underpants Mar 2015 #19
What's next? The NRA? TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #15
The Pence Effect blkmusclmachine Mar 2015 #16
Well it is a start and I'm suprised to hear this from NASCAR.... sdfernando Mar 2015 #17
Even Nascar sees the bad publicity + ill will stemming directly from Indiana's 21st Century Jim Crow blkmusclmachine Mar 2015 #18
A statement is cheap dakdirty Apr 2015 #21

TriplD

(176 posts)
1. A statement is cheap
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 01:04 PM
Mar 2015

If they really didn't want to "participate in exclusion or intolerance" they wouldn't be subjecting their fans to it by hosting events in the state.

turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
2. Nice words
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 01:10 PM
Mar 2015

being what is called politically correct by conservatives and how they always attacked the progressive side for being what they called politically correct really doesn't mean much and trying to have it both ways, because of the simple fact of costs, doesn't wash.
Unless you do something, like lets say move the race to New Hampshire for that week, just so that the people and the business of that state of Indiana get the message---just my opinion, it boils down to greed and the association with the greed, you can talk the talk but can you do the walk.
The people of the state voted these people into office and they knew exactly what they were getting into because they wanted this or they would not have voted them in, because they voted in discrimination like right to work for less, and now this religious bigotry

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
3. I'll believe they're REALLY concerned when they cancel the Brickyard 400
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 01:12 PM
Mar 2015

They actually have enough time to put their money where their mouth is - roughly 4 months. I'm sure they could line up another willing track in that time (but I'm not holding my breath).

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
4. Corporations are taking a stand because...IT'S GOOD FOR BUSINESS!
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 01:13 PM
Mar 2015

Clearly the GOP does not understand how business works in this country.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Give yourself the same benefit of a doubt you'd give anyone else. It's only fair.[/center][/font][hr]

 

Liberalagogo

(1,770 posts)
5. Actions speak louder.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 01:13 PM
Mar 2015

Unless you are willing to actually DO something, then your words are going to do much at all.

Corey_Baker08

(2,157 posts)
6. Actions Speak Louder Than Words, Cancel The Brickyard 400 If The Law Isn't Repealed...
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 01:32 PM
Mar 2015

I do want to say that regardless of their intentions I am proud of the more than 10 corporations that have declared their intentions to either leave the state or to withdrawal plans to locate to the state of Indiana!

I am equally surprised and applaud NASCAR for their statement condemning this discriminatory law because the Brickyard 400 which is one of NASCAR'S premier events draws millions of dollars on revenue for the state.

While I am not 100% convinced, I want to believe that there is an ongoing change in America and society that says we will no longer tolerate any form of discrimination against our gay brothers and sisters...

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
8. I am surprised NASCAR made a statement against the law.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 01:38 PM
Mar 2015

The fan base of NASCAR are made of people more likely to support it.

bullsnarfle

(254 posts)
20. I am a NASCAR fan
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 03:01 PM
Apr 2015

and I certainly don't support it. I know a hell of a lot of fellow NASCAR fans that do not in any way support it, and do not deserve to be tarred with that brush.

As for some of the other posters saying, basically, that if NASCAR doesn't cancel the Brickyard immediately (even though it does not race until Jul 26) then NASCAR is just full of it? Hey, I don't hear any of you saying that if the Indianapolis Colts, or the Pacers don't cancel their games, then the Colts/Pacers are full of it. Why not?

(edited for clarity on who or what was being called "full of it&quot

dembotoz

(16,804 posts)
9. may not be complete but this is a BIG thing for nascar to do
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 01:50 PM
Mar 2015

it is nice to be shocked in a good way for once

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
10. Hey, at least it's progress.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 02:11 PM
Mar 2015

The fact that the severely conservative NASCAR organization even addressed the issue at all - and that they're somewhat taking issue with the law and not agreeing with it - is a pretty big step forward for those people.

I'd cut them some slack and take what we can get. Remember - it's a Christian, conservative organization. We can't expect them to jump on the LGBT bandwagon whole-hog at this point in their history.

Backwoodsrider

(764 posts)
11. start of a sea change?
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 02:12 PM
Mar 2015

I know its probably based a lot on greed but I am starting to see a separation within the GOP; the religious right and Big business. Those 2 used to gleefully hold hands, BFF. Well I guess not forever. Now that the GOP has both house and senate some in Big business are seeing just how wacko the GOP can be. And we on the left are realizing Big Business are made up of people just like us.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
13. NASCAR? NASCAR has the integrity to call out bigotry?!?
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 02:29 PM
Mar 2015

This is good news with certainty. I wonder if the country establishment would condemn such a laws? Unlikely.

underpants

(182,803 posts)
19. Me too but you have to realize that NASCAR is just a function of corporate sponsors
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 05:33 PM
Mar 2015

It's all about brand placement. NASCAR fans have over an 80% brand loyalty to their favorite driver.

sdfernando

(4,935 posts)
17. Well it is a start and I'm suprised to hear this from NASCAR....
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 04:12 PM
Mar 2015

but i would hardly call driving a race are a "sport". But then again, I don't call golf a sport either. I classify them as "pastimes"

dakdirty

(90 posts)
21. A statement is cheap
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 08:59 AM
Apr 2015

Especially when given to those who have actually had to face discrimination, in the sense that it seems easy to say something is wrong without action to correct that wrong. In terms of real dollars, the statement could have massive implications. NASCAR had to lean towards the sponsor side on this one; none of them could take the hit to come out on the pro side on this issue. I also wonder how long before some christian ID or other white supremacy "church" decides to get in on all this pub.
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