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4now

(1,596 posts)
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 06:28 PM Mar 2015

Israel killed more Palestinians in 2014 than in any other year since 1967

Source: The Guardian

Israel killed more Palestinian civilians in 2014 than in any other year since the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip began in 1967, a UN report has said.

Israel’s activities in the Gaza Strip, West Bank and East Jerusalem resulted in the deaths of 2,314 Palestinians and 17,125 injuries, compared with 39 deaths and 3,964 injuries in 2013, according to the annual report (pdf) by the UN Office for the Co-ordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA).

The conflict in Gaza in July and August was largely responsible for the dramatic increase in fatalities. It claimed the lives of 2,220 Gazans, of whom 1,492 were civilians, 605 militants and 123 unverified.

More than 11,000 people were injured and about 500,000 Palestinians were internally displaced at the height of the conflict. About 100,000 remain so.
There was also a sharp rise in fatalities in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, where 58 Palestinians were killed and 6,028 injured – the highest number of fatalities in incidents involving Israeli forces since 2007 and the highest number of injuries since 2005

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/27/israel-kills-more-palestinians-2014-than-any-other-year-since-1967

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Israel killed more Palestinians in 2014 than in any other year since 1967 (Original Post) 4now Mar 2015 OP
What can IDF do to stop Hamas from firing over 3,000 rockets over the summer, It is Tuesday Mar 2015 #1
Killing hundreds of children is your idea of a solution? nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #3
Here's my solution Yupster Mar 2015 #12
So, ethnic cleansing is your solution. nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #13
No, taking care of people and giving them a life is my solution Yupster Mar 2015 #15
When will those Palestinians ever learn to just give up and accept their fate? Chemisse Mar 2015 #5
They are boxed in on all sides so it's a turkey shoot for Israel. bjobotts Mar 2015 #6
Rockets don't hit anything.It's a protest for attention to the situations there bjobotts Mar 2015 #8
Mostly fall on un inhabited land madokie Mar 2015 #9
Welcome to DU. How you been? R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2015 #11
The IDF can't do much of anything at all. RiverNoord Mar 2015 #14
The summer offensive in Gaza was an absolute massacre of civilians alcibiades_mystery Mar 2015 #2
So offensive Israel kicked the media out-no witnesses.Red cross too bjobotts Mar 2015 #7
They're just Palestinian mongrels right, who cares? geomon666 Mar 2015 #4
Probably could have destroyed the tunnels moondust Mar 2015 #10
I posted at JP the other day fingrin Mar 2015 #17
How soon some forget. moondust Mar 2015 #18
Even without Gaza, Israel killed more than 2X the number of Palesinians in 2014 than in 2013. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #16
I'm willing to bet that they could have killed them all and the republicans would still support cstanleytech Mar 2015 #19
250,000 syrians dead e-cigdub Mar 2015 #20
 

It is Tuesday

(93 posts)
1. What can IDF do to stop Hamas from firing over 3,000 rockets over the summer,
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 06:40 PM
Mar 2015

and over 21,000 rockets fired towards Israel since 2001?

Israel was last hit by a rocket 16 days ago.

http://israelhasbeenrocketfreefor.com/

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
12. Here's my solution
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 10:03 PM
Mar 2015

The refugees have been there too long. Three generations is too long to sit in a refugee camp without hope. These people need to be taken in by other countries and given a new chance at a life.

After World War II, a huge swath of eastern Germany was given to Poland or the Soviet Union. Millions and millions of civilians were pushed from their homes and removed west. The German cities were simply renamed and resettled with Poles or Russians.
The capital of East Prussia Konigsberg became Kaliningrad. Posen became Poznan. Breslau became Wroclaw. Stettin became Szczecin. Kolberg became Kolobrzeg.

So where are all those millions of German refugees today?

Are they sitting in refugee camps across the Oder River throwing bottles at Polish cops?

No, they long ago dusted themselves up from the ruins of war, restarted their lives somewhere else and those refugees can tell their horrible stories to their prosperous kids and grandkids. So why haven't the Palestinian refugees been resettled? Are brown refugees less worthy than white refugees?

Get these people resettled somewhere so they can start their lives. They are just political pawns, and just as helpless as pawns.

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PS - to see how ridiculous this situation from World War II is, take a look at a map of Russia in 2015. Start at Moscow and then go west. You'll go through Smolensk and then you leave Russia and go hundreds of miles through Belorussia and pass through its capital Minsk. Then you hit the Baltic States, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. You hit the Baltic Sea in Lithuania and then head west along the coast. You reach the city of Memel which is now called Klaipeda and then wait a minute. Now you're back in Russia? What is this enclave? It's the northern half of East Prussia including its capital city now part of Russia, but separated from any other Russian lands by hundreds of miles. What happened to all the Germans? They're gone. Does Russia just get to keep this land that they really have no claim to at all other than conquest? Well, yeah. They just get to keep it as weird as the map looks.

I actually wonder what will eventually become of this land? It doesn't seem long term it can remain part of Russia but maybe it will. Who's going to take it from them?

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
15. No, taking care of people and giving them a life is my solution
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 10:29 PM
Mar 2015

Sitting them in refugee camps for generations is not doing them any favors.

Someone take these people in and let's get normal lives for them.

There are about 1.8 million people in the Gaza Strip. That is not many people for the world to absorb. If you want to limit it to the Muslim world that is still one less than half of one percent. So why haven't these people given the opportunity to resettle? Because they are useful pawns in the camps.

Get these people into peaceful places so they can live normal lives. How many more generations of these families have to be sacrificed waiting for some politicians to agree on something they have no interest in agreeing to.

Chemisse

(30,811 posts)
5. When will those Palestinians ever learn to just give up and accept their fate?
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 07:12 PM
Mar 2015

Isn't that what we would all do if someone took our land? We sure wouldn't be shooting off ineffective projectiles that could possibly, occasionally hurt one of our oppressors. That would be just so wrong, and we would obviously expect our families to be slaughtered in response.

 

bjobotts

(9,141 posts)
6. They are boxed in on all sides so it's a turkey shoot for Israel.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 09:16 PM
Mar 2015

I've grown tired of Israel's hatred and slaughter of innocents in Gaza. Their God is another monster used as encouragement to kill. I sometimes wonder if the whole world would be better off if Jerusalem were blown from the earth so they would have nothing to fight over.
Peace comes when the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest. I don't need religion to make me moral and kindly toward others. Everything is God so stop destroying the recognition of being. Non judgmental awareness is presence. Netanyahu wants dominion and stands in the way of peaceful solutions. According to him Iran would have a bomb 25yrs ago...and every year since.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
14. The IDF can't do much of anything at all.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 10:15 PM
Mar 2015

It can kill a lot of people and blow up a lot of stuff. Somehow, that only results in an otherwise powerless, stateless, penned in people being more determined to do whatever they can to resist their occupiers.

This isn't 1948, and it's time for the modern state of Israel to grow up. It is a genuine apartheid state, governed, at present, by fanatics who stay in power because of the votes of the people who, in violation of some very serious international laws, have been encouraged to emigrate to the country and grab land from people who can't do anything to stop them, except hurl some rather large bottle rockets in the general direction of the people backing them up.

The government that's been running the show for many years likes those damn rockets! It gives them cover to keep pushing land grabs and supporting them with massive shows of force from time to time.

I'm also damn fed up with the far-right Israeli lobby's excessive influence on American politics. Why do we veto every single United Nations security council resolution that says anything not nice about Israel? We don't do that for any other country in the world. Not one. Israel is a member of quite a club, including North Korea, Pakistan and India, each of which possess nuclear weapons but won't sign the Non-Proliferation Treaty.

This is one very dangerous country that does indeed face an existential threat - its own behavior.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
2. The summer offensive in Gaza was an absolute massacre of civilians
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 06:45 PM
Mar 2015

The world twiddled its thumbs.

Tra la, no other way.

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
4. They're just Palestinian mongrels right, who cares?
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 07:08 PM
Mar 2015

Israel doesn't consider Palestinians to be human. Which allows them to commit massacre upon massacre on Palestinians without guilt. It's disgusting.

moondust

(19,979 posts)
10. Probably could have destroyed the tunnels
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 09:43 PM
Mar 2015

from the Israeli side with few if any casualities. Send down some army sappers to clear them out, lay exposives, and then remotely detonate.

fingrin

(120 posts)
17. I posted at JP the other day
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 12:24 AM
Mar 2015

And was unsurprised to see it was deleted.
The point I made was that Jews in the Warsaw ghetto during WW2 built tunnels to smuggle goods and to attack the Germans. Why were the Palestinian tunnels "terror tunnels" when in effect they were doing exactly the same thing. Racism, pure and simple.

moondust

(19,979 posts)
18. How soon some forget.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 12:51 AM
Mar 2015

Although technically the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto were probably trying to attack the occupying German army rather than the local Polish population. I believe the Gaza tunnels were being used to attack Israeli civilians so naturally the Israeli gov't was eventually going to put an end to it. It's their heavy-handed methods and unnecessary carnage that trouble me.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
19. I'm willing to bet that they could have killed them all and the republicans would still support
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 06:23 AM
Mar 2015

them entirely.

 

e-cigdub

(40 posts)
20. 250,000 syrians dead
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:37 PM
Mar 2015

in fact, more syrians have been killed in the past 4 or so years. then the entire wars between israel and all its arab neighboors since 1948. This doesn't include the millions that saddamn has killed or the other massacres including the first syrian civil war in the early 80s..

but see.. when 250 quarter million syrian muslims die.. because other muslims are doing the killing no one bats an eye.. but if israel a LIBERAL PRO GAY RIGHTS COUNTRY who provides free health care to ALL its citizens defends itself against extreme radical hamas who uses human shields to hide behind. executes gays , political oppositions,prisoners.... then statics suddenly matter..

Of course ethnic cleansing is a great topic as well.. Many speak of the Palestinian ethnic cleansing even though the reason 20 percent of israels population is arab is because the jews never kicked out the palastanians. The ones that left, left because they thought israel would be destroyed in the war of 1948. They could have stayed and been a part of israel and been part of the 20 percent arabs that live in israel today.

but lets talk about ethnic cleansing.. the 1 MILLION JEWS whose homes, wealth, property, lively hood were taken in arab and muslim countries across the middle east. Does anyone speak of RIGHT OF RETURN for those jews? does anyone speak of the ethnic cleansing for those jews? the justice they deserve? NAHHHH.. see.. you can commit genocide against jews.. ethnic cleanse them.. commit anti semetic attacks agianst the them.. and the BEST the jews can expect.. is

a few people lighting candles in solidarity.. "ohhh those pooor jews they say.. oh those innocent jews they say.." but god help israel if it defends itself agaisnt murdering bastards like hamas, islamic jihad, hizbollah.. then suddenly.. wait a second.. the jews are defending themselves..

THATS NOT RIGHT.. how dare the jews defend themselves.. they need to live at the mercy of arab muslims who have been OH SO GREAT to them since 1500 years ago. see if israel JUST HANDED over there well being and country to the Palestinians and hamas and hizbollah.. then of course living as "minority jews" they would be protected.. and they would never be harmed. OH thats worked out great for them in the past.

I SUPPORT all liberal countries who defend themselves against radical religous fanatics.. the shit that is happening in indiana IS NO DIFFERENT then what the jews face from hamas and hizbollah.. i will not submit to crazy religous fanatics.. the crazy christian tea partiers here or the radicals in the middl east.

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