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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:23 PM Mar 2015

Scott Walker Catches Jeb Bush In Florida: 2016 Poll

Source: Sunshine State News

A new poll shows Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker is running in a dead heat with former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush in the Sunshine State as the 2016 presidential race looms. Gravis Marketing released its poll of Florida Republicans this week, which finds Bush ahead with 23 percent but Walker right on his heels with 22 percent. U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., places third with 11 percent followed by former Gov. Mike Huckabee, R-Ark., with 10 percent. Huckabee moved to Florida after his 2008 presidential bid.

Dr. Ben Carson, who also moved to Florida recently, placed fifth with 8 percent. Gov. Chris Christie, R-N.J., takes 6 percent followed by U.S. Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky. Two Texas Republicans lag behind: U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz takes 2 percent while former Gov. Rick Perry pulls 1 percent. An eighth of those surveyed -- 12 percent -- remain undecided. Doug Kaplan, the managing partner of Gravis Insights, said he expected the contest to come down to Bush and Walker. “We are seeing the early stages of a two-man horse race between Bush and Walker,” Kaplan said. “Bush vs. Walker is ... inside the margin of error.”

Kaplan was not as high on Rubio’s chances, even though he ran close to Bush when the contest came down to just the two of them. In that scenario, Bush takes 40 percent while Rubio gets 36 percent. “Rubio is popular, but in his home state he is taking a back seat to Bush vs. Walker,” Kaplan said. “Even among Hispanics, Bush takes 24 percent, Walker 23 percent and Rubio, a Cuban-American, comes in third with 11 percent -- roughly his same level of support across the state’s Republicans in an open field.”

The poll of 513 Florida Republicans was taken from Feb. 24-25 and had a margin of error of +/- 4 percent.

Read more: http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/story/not-so-favorite-son-scott-walker-catches-jeb-bush-florida-2016-poll

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Scott Walker Catches Jeb Bush In Florida: 2016 Poll (Original Post) big_dog Mar 2015 OP
It still amazes me... Still In Wisconsin Mar 2015 #1
Me too! ananda Mar 2015 #2
bye bye Jebbie big_dog Mar 2015 #5
You think they prefer Bush to Walker? FBaggins Mar 2015 #9
Right, Kochs are walkerites. elleng Mar 2015 #14
Bushie is esablishment wall st.GOP big_dog Mar 2015 #17
This is EXACTLY what he will do. Still In Wisconsin Mar 2015 #23
Former Sen. Brownback tried to govern the tea party way in Kansas and it was an absolute disaster big_dog Mar 2015 #26
Well... yes and no FBaggins Mar 2015 #18
And if he's there nominee he could win do not take him lightly bigdarryl Mar 2015 #7
Ed show said the same thing as you big_dog Mar 2015 #8
A few things to keep in mind... HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #12
remember, Walker still has to get through the wingnut GOP primary debates big_dog Mar 2015 #13
Yes, and if they are -really- interested in waxing him they can HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #16
The voters in Wisconsin who voted for him 3 times yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #31
We don't really know how the voters voted. We only know what the Corporations that own the secret blkmusclmachine Mar 2015 #35
It is early. murielm99 Mar 2015 #3
Jeb Bush will be their nom. Iliyah Mar 2015 #4
Bush...sold, bought and paid for. n/t libdem4life Mar 2015 #6
I have a bad feeling he will be the candidate uhnope Mar 2015 #10
Bush has his last name that will turn off a lot of people. Walker on the other hand bloomington-lib Mar 2015 #11
Rubio is pathetic. BlueStater Mar 2015 #15
Good I support Walker over Bush Telcontar Mar 2015 #19
I might support Bush over Walker FBaggins Mar 2015 #21
Trust us here in Wisconsin...you do NOT want Scott K. Walker. Still In Wisconsin Mar 2015 #24
WHAT? snacker Mar 2015 #27
Shit I could see Walker doing as President (God forbid) Still In Wisconsin Mar 2015 #29
Bush could win Telcontar Mar 2015 #30
Walker could win too. Still In Wisconsin Mar 2015 #33
But, but, but...I was told that early polls were all name recognition! brooklynite Mar 2015 #20
$900.000.000.00 Koch baby Geronimoe Mar 2015 #22
Palin with a tie. Still In Wisconsin Mar 2015 #25
This has to be crushing Mitt Romney Adenoid_Hynkel Mar 2015 #28
Oh it's still early and polls are polls. They don't really say much. However > YOHABLO Mar 2015 #32
Why did Scooter never finish school? Depends on who you ask. Still In Wisconsin Mar 2015 #34

FBaggins

(26,735 posts)
9. You think they prefer Bush to Walker?
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:51 PM
Mar 2015

You may very well be looking at the results of that spending, not its failure.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
17. Bushie is esablishment wall st.GOP
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:44 PM
Mar 2015

Walker will probably run as tea party light to whup Jebbie and then try and run back to the center for the general

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
23. This is EXACTLY what he will do.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 06:27 PM
Mar 2015

He will steer back toward the center for the general election, as he did in his elections here in Wisconsin... then if elected (God forbid) he will govern extreme right.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
26. Former Sen. Brownback tried to govern the tea party way in Kansas and it was an absolute disaster
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 06:35 PM
Mar 2015

they are much the same. As a strategist, I would try and tie those some of those taxcutting wingnut policies (and far-right social issues) to Walker and how he would perform with a GOP majority in the US House and Senate

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
7. And if he's there nominee he could win do not take him lightly
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:38 PM
Mar 2015

And it's not so much of him as a candidate it's the stupidity of the American voter.Look you had union workers voting for him in the Wisconsin recall and reelection GO FIGURE!!!!

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
12. A few things to keep in mind...
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:04 PM
Mar 2015

1) The myth of Walker is what people are responding to...the more exposure he gets the worse he'll look, certainly that's true for democrats and left-leaning independents who have a national numerical advantage

2) He won 3 elections outside of general elections. The recall was specifically timed so that it would compromise residency for college aged voters and exploit the pattern of weak democratic voting away from November general elections. This is something of a national pattern for democratic voters. To win the presidency, Walker must win in a General Election year. The teahad has built slight majority to ram thru their ill considered war on taxes, Milwaukee and 'welfare'

2a) Even in the state that looks as if if "can't get enough of him" Walker's wins have been just a few percentage points about 50%. The results have some suspicious looks to them and when Dems can't push a victory margin beyond 5% it only takes manipulation of 3% of the total vote to manufacture favorable tallies.

3) Walker's capacity to do damage isn't due to him alone. The legislature and the elected courts are all R. Anyone who can scribble a signature on ALEC boiler plate legislation that steam-rolled through Madtown would have Walker's record.

IMO, iIf the media or his primary opponents can get him away from issues where he's memorized a libertarian white paper meme he will shut up and look dumb or puts his foot in his mouth and look dumber He'll be calling WI sand-mining international policy and labor unions ISIS.





 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
13. remember, Walker still has to get through the wingnut GOP primary debates
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:16 PM
Mar 2015

where Sanitorium, Huckster and others can all get their free shots in

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
16. Yes, and if they are -really- interested in waxing him they can
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:25 PM
Mar 2015

Tremendously vulnerable on foreign affairs and actual economic theory.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
31. The voters in Wisconsin who voted for him 3 times
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 08:12 PM
Mar 2015

are to blame for his popularity. I know that nobody on here voted for him but many in the state did. They made the monster. I just hope we are not stuck to deal with it.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
35. We don't really know how the voters voted. We only know what the Corporations that own the secret
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:47 PM
Mar 2015

vote "counters" tell us happened. And we can never, ever verify the software OR the results. How comfortable are you with THAT?!?!


murielm99

(30,738 posts)
3. It is early.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:28 PM
Mar 2015

I worry about Jebbie. He could end up their nominee, and find a way to steal the election. The Bush family will stop at nothing to get what they want. Let him continue to trail, and end up out of the running.

Walker is a fool and I despise him. He will stumble badly if he is their nominee. I don't think he could win. I would love to see that phone call, the one where he is pranked into thinking he is talking to one of the Koch brothers, played over and over. There would be massive demonstrations against him in his own state. He would lose. Let it be Walker. Let the fools see what kind of soulless monsters the repubbies have to offer.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
10. I have a bad feeling he will be the candidate
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:52 PM
Mar 2015

His "victory" over the unions makes him look strong to the GOP, dynamic, and there are a lot of the GOP that don't want another Bush.

I just hope that he's such a jerk that he will make some big mistakes, or maybe some skeletons in his closet will sink him

bloomington-lib

(946 posts)
11. Bush has his last name that will turn off a lot of people. Walker on the other hand
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:01 PM
Mar 2015

has his fight against the unions on his resume, and that reminds Republicans of Reagan, their idol.

FBaggins

(26,735 posts)
21. I might support Bush over Walker
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 06:18 PM
Mar 2015

I think more people agree with you... and if he wins the nomination, he's less likely to win the general.

I think that Walker is more likely to become President (and more likely to do more damage).

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
24. Trust us here in Wisconsin...you do NOT want Scott K. Walker.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 06:29 PM
Mar 2015

He may actually be worse than Bush. Think Sarah Palin with a tie.

snacker

(3,619 posts)
27. WHAT?
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 06:45 PM
Mar 2015

This country needs to see Scott Walker for the Koch-puppet he is. It scares me to think of the damage he could do to this country. This Wisconsinite is living through the mess he has made and continues to make here. It's ugly!

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
29. Shit I could see Walker doing as President (God forbid)
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 07:29 PM
Mar 2015

-Eliminating the NLRB and making this a "right to work" country
-Eliminating the National Science Foundation
-Withdrawing 100% of Federal support for education and education initiatives
-Surgeon General Dr. Ben Carson
-Sell off the National Parks
-Nuking Iran/North Korea/Syria/ some combination of the above

No, I am not kidding about any of these.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
33. Walker could win too.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:27 PM
Mar 2015

I sincerely hope neither Jeb nor Scooter ever gets close to the presidency. But, believe me, we dismiss Scott Walker (or, maybe more accurately, his masters) at our own peril.

brooklynite

(94,535 posts)
20. But, but, but...I was told that early polls were all name recognition!
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:58 PM
Mar 2015

How many people in Florida are likely to have heard of Jeb Bush?......

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
25. Palin with a tie.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 06:32 PM
Mar 2015

Yes, he is that dumb. And yet he is skilful...the definition of an opportunistic weasel.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
28. This has to be crushing Mitt Romney
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 07:06 PM
Mar 2015

After all, he dropped out early because of the supposedly unstoppable Jeb juggernaut. Bet he now regrets not waiting it out a bit longer.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
32. Oh it's still early and polls are polls. They don't really say much. However >
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 09:02 PM
Mar 2015

Could someone tell me why Walker never finished college? By the way, Bush represents the ''establishment" Republicans, where Walker represents this new TeaParty/ Neo Republican brand. The Republican race is going to be a circus. Buy your tickets early and no butter for me on the popcorn.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
34. Why did Scooter never finish school? Depends on who you ask.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:32 PM
Mar 2015

The official response from Walker is that he got a job too good to pass up (licking stamps for the Red Cross) and meant to finish later, but then he got married and had kids and...well you know.

The scuttlebutt is that he was "invited to leave" after being caught cheating.

All we know for sure is that he was a mediocre, disinterested student (sound familiar?) and that he was about thirty credits short of graduation when he left Marquette University during the spring semester of his fourth year.

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