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Botany

(70,516 posts)
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 03:44 PM Feb 2015

Fox Station That Used Pic of Obama as Rape Suspect IS REFUSING to Apologize or Acknowledge the Error

Source: Daily Kos

As reported in this diary, San Diego Fox News 5 used a picture of President Obama with the caption reading NO CHARGES while head anchorwoman Kathleen Bade was discussing a rape suspect.

Although it was up there the entire time during her lead-in, assignment editor Mike Wille said it was just a mistake. Since they knew it was a mistake, (and left it up there the whole time), why didn't they at least offer a correction or apologize?

Good question:

Asked why there was no on-air acknowledgment or apology for the error, Wille said: “They really don’t do that when it’s a small thing like that.”

Read more: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/02/15/1364551/-Fox-Station-That-Used-Pic-of-Obama-as-Rape-Suspect-IS-REFUSING-to-Apologize-or-Acknowledge-Error?detail=email#



Fox should not be allowed to use thew term "news."

Links to the San Diego Fox Station and the FCC @ the link posted.
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Fox Station That Used Pic of Obama as Rape Suspect IS REFUSING to Apologize or Acknowledge the Error (Original Post) Botany Feb 2015 OP
At least they werent lying. padfun Feb 2015 #1
Cons lie, liberals tell the truth, get with the program. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #16
It's only a lie if the Kochs get charged demwing Feb 2015 #18
Welcome to DU, padfun! calimary Feb 2015 #20
respond how sprts Feb 2015 #33
B-I-N-G-O! - n/t mazzarro Feb 2015 #34
Welcome to DU, sprts! calimary Feb 2015 #35
A small thing like that? Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2015 #2
FCC complaints made yet? irisblue Feb 2015 #3
I think we can now see why "free speech" should have its limits. merrily Feb 2015 #4
OK Lint Head Feb 2015 #5
I emailed them just to give them some mail today..hope their computers jam onecent Feb 2015 #7
Ths I just phoned, they had apologized duhneece Feb 2015 #12
Kind of secondvariety Feb 2015 #13
"Last friday night we inadvertently used a photo of President Obama in a story about .... Botany Feb 2015 #14
Greed. Do you think that they wd've w/o activism? duhneece Feb 2015 #15
Which came 1st, the apology or the DU OP? Let's do the math.... 24601 Feb 2015 #21
I'm sorry I made a mistake ..... I'll try to do better in the future Botany Feb 2015 #31
As well you should. Apology accepted from you, too. 24601 Feb 2015 #37
I believe they would not have apologized without our activism. We as progressives have changed a lot Lint Head Feb 2015 #22
Well, the evidence against Obama is weaker than that against the suspected rapist . . . Journeyman Feb 2015 #6
Fox is probably still in a tizzy that the administration removed "news" from their placard. C Moon Feb 2015 #8
No charges, no harm, no foul rocktivity Feb 2015 #9
This... FLyellowdog Feb 2015 #10
Yet Brian Williams gets hounded out of his spot. uppityperson Feb 2015 #11
this reinforces the argument that they are racist or biased in their reporting samsingh Feb 2015 #17
This isn't a Fox-owned station onenote Feb 2015 #23
You seem totally unaware of FOX 5 being a clone of Fox News? This is one example of many. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #25
your post implies the actual suspect is black Enrique Feb 2015 #36
Dunno why this jumped to mind... theaocp Feb 2015 #19
... progressoid Feb 2015 #24
"small thing like that".. just how stupid are they over there at fox "news"? Nevermind. Cha Feb 2015 #26
if Chimpy's head on a stick was OK . quadrature Feb 2015 #27
Can't the anchor also see the monitor showing the inset pic? Beartracks Feb 2015 #28
Disgusting. Jamastiene Feb 2015 #29
If a mistake-say so on air and say Sorry. GEECH! riversedge Feb 2015 #30
They did. Before the OP was posted, in fact. onenote Feb 2015 #32
I'd like to see a picture of the rear end of a dog aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2015 #38

padfun

(1,786 posts)
1. At least they werent lying.
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 03:51 PM
Feb 2015

I mean he Wasn't charged with anything.

The Dems should learn from this technique. They could put a picture of the Koch brothers up and have a caption saying, "Koch brothers not charged in child molestation case," and do this every night someplace.

(This is just having fun. I hope nobody takes me serious)

calimary

(81,321 posts)
20. Welcome to DU, padfun!
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 06:20 PM
Feb 2015

Glad you're here. Actually, I find your suggestion most intriguing. WHY NOT do that? "Oh, OOOPSIE! Well, shut my mouth... (said with eyelashes batting)." WHY NOT?

I think we need to fight them on every front we can think of, and then some. ANY way we can think of that will demean them, trash them, reflect badly on them, present them in a negative light, and so on. Makes me think of the ol' legend about LBJ - when he was said to be campaigning for office in Texas, very early in his career. He accused his opponent of "sleeping" with pigs. He knew full-well it wasn't true. And he even admitted to it. But the key here was his reasoning: "make him deny it." You set up a framing that way. You set up some VERY subtle messaging. You pee on his trousers, proverbially speaking. Just a little bitty thing, that. But then your victim winds up having to walk around with pee smell at his every step. The same dynamic is in play with comments like - "when did you stop beating your wife?" OF COURSE the target never has. But you bring it in on them anyway, and there will be people who associate that concept with that target from here on.

Icky tactics? Yes. Certainly! But do you want to win or don't you? They do it all the time and get away with it and wear the scalps of their victims (from our side) around with great pride. WHY THE HELL CAN'T WE TURN IT AROUND AND DO IT TO THEM?????????????

They fight dirty. They fight dirty and they win. Why don't we?

To everyone who insists we must always take the high road, I have found, through my observations over the years, that the high road takes you straight over a cliff.

 

sprts

(29 posts)
33. respond how
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 10:25 PM
Feb 2015

We don't control the media, the rethugs do - we can't get the message out in an equal format.

calimary

(81,321 posts)
35. Welcome to DU, sprts!
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 02:58 PM
Feb 2015

Glad you're here! Yes I KNOW we don't control the media, except for a small sliver of it - MSNBC. And, at least according to the ratings, we don't have the muscle we need there either.

I'm not sure how to do it since I don't have enough money to buy myself a piece of the media like the koch brothers do, or whole networks like the big conglomerates do. We're stuck with US. Ourselves. Our grassroots. We're stuck with an attempt to try to unravel Citizens United. We're stuck with Dems who until very recently only were interested in caving, caving, and more caving. We're stuck with a President who until very recently wanted to try to compromise rather than just understanding that these bastards weren't interested in reaching back out to them, and only recently decided to say "fuck it" - as he should have from Day One. We're stuck. We're stuck with our own little grassroots activism. It's a big enough job for activists on our side to whip up the kind of frenzy we need on our side - that propelled the teabaggers to such ungodly levels of success.

AND I think we need to start making a boatload of noise and complain-complain-complain to our Dems and make an issue of the following:

WHERE IS THE FOCUS ON TAKING BACK THE STATEHOUSES?

WHERE IS THE FOCUS ON TAKING BACK THE GOVERNORSHIPS???

WHERE IS THE FOCUS ON TAKING BACK THOSE GOVERNORSHIPS - on the all-important Zero Years?

Because if a republi-CON is in charge on any of those ten-year marker years, 2010, 2020, 2030, and on... THAT is when the census is done, and THAT is when Congressional districts are reapportioned and reconfigured, and if the GOP is in charge at that crucial moment, then they gerrymander the districts within an inch of their lives - to make sure they tilt the playing field in their favor. That's how - when there are at least A MILLION votes cast for Democrats, it doesn't do any good, and doesn't make any difference. And it seems to me the DNC was asleep at the switch - yet again.

If we can somehow fix THAT, then we're on the way to recovery. I think because the next election cycle is the Presidential election cycle, that's when Dem voters tend to turn out more. So we might well get the Senate back - especially since the bad guys have more seats to defend next time which makes them more vulnerable. More places they have to spend money to defend those many seats. I think we stand a good chance of getting a lot of them back. The House of Reps is probably lost for awhile, though - because that Decade-Mark mentality is NOT there. I see NO focus on it. I hear NO efforts amassed to try to take command of that issue and turn it around. Seems nobody's paying much attention - and we have a big one coming up in just five years. Dear darling DEBBIE wasn't on alert for that, certainly, on her watching 2010. THAT has to change, too. So does the (her) leadership.

It's really frustrating. I went to a meeting a few months ago with the local chapter of UltraViolet - a liberal, and majority female, grassroots group that is slowly spreading around the country. We broke into small discussion groups and kicked ideas around on several assigned topics - including "What should our agenda be, and what issues should we concentrate on?" I came up with taking back the word "feminism" and "feminist" because I thought it had been thoroughly trashed and rendered disreputable and turned into a negative. The response was as though an 8.1 earthquake had just hit 'em. WHOA! That's a GREAT idea! YES!!!! We DO have to do that! But it hadn't occurred to anybody else in the room, and, seemingly, hadn't occurred to most people across the whole progressive landscape. Astoundingly, only a couple of weeks later, TIME magazine issued a list of five words they wanted the public's opinion on - "which of these five words or terms should be sent to the dustbin? And sure enough - one of those words was "feminist"! Well, there was (pleasant surprise) suddenly a backlash about this, and I saw several emails from different big activist groups with petitions to send to TIME to express outrage over that, and demand that they take that word OFF their list of Terms-To-Be-Trashed. And TIME actually, surprisingly, got religion about it, apologized, and withdrew that word from its list. I was stunned to hear that, and very gratified. I signed every one of those petitions, and tried to contribute a few bucks to support the petition drive when I had some money to spare.

I was asked to write up a summary of our group and the others from that meeting, so I did. And I sent a note to the organizers about the irony, that we'd discussed the rehabilitation and much-needed defense of the word "feminist" at our meeting, and look what just happened at TIME magazine! And that came as a great surprise to the organizers. It was the first they'd even heard about it.


merrily

(45,251 posts)
4. I think we can now see why "free speech" should have its limits.
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 03:53 PM
Feb 2015

Why aren't we contacting sponsors of these shows in some kind of organized fashion?

Anyone have any ideas?

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
5. OK
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 03:54 PM
Feb 2015

Contact Fox 5

 FOX 5 Studios
 7191 Engineer Rd.
 San Diego, CA 92111

FOX 5 Phone: 858-492-9269

Feedback: [email protected]

FOX 5 Fax: 858-268-0401

Newsroom
 Phone: 858-573-6500
 Fax: 858-573-6600
 email: [email protected]

duhneece

(4,113 posts)
12. Ths I just phoned, they had apologized
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 04:32 PM
Feb 2015

Twice yesterday, on both news shows and on-line, which will be up for a few days. Apparently, someone paid attention to our 'suggestions'...
It's now up to others to confirm the info they gave. Carry on!

Botany

(70,516 posts)
14. "Last friday night we inadvertently used a photo of President Obama in a story about ....
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 05:11 PM
Feb 2015

.... charges being dropped in a case and we regret the error." rough quote

A pretty damn weak apology if you ask me.

duhneece

(4,113 posts)
15. Greed. Do you think that they wd've w/o activism?
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 05:32 PM
Feb 2015

Do you think they would have apologized, however weakly, without we progressives being active? Without our emails, without our calls, I doubt they would have.

24601

(3,962 posts)
21. Which came 1st, the apology or the DU OP? Let's do the math....
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 06:25 PM
Feb 2015

Botany's DU Post was 2:44 PM on Monday, 16 Feb.

San Diego Times reported the on-air apology was 10:04 PM on Friday, 13 February.

So Botany's post that the station had not apologized was 64 hours and 40 minutes after the station apologized.

OP was more than 2 1/2 days after the event. How is this LBN?

Botany

(70,516 posts)
31. I'm sorry I made a mistake ..... I'll try to do better in the future
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 09:59 PM
Feb 2015

After all I live for your happiness.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
22. I believe they would not have apologized without our activism. We as progressives have changed a lot
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 06:27 PM
Feb 2015

right wing ridiculousness. We still have a long way to go to turn around the obvious right wing corporate theocratic fascist bigotry that is infesting our precious country.

Journeyman

(15,036 posts)
6. Well, the evidence against Obama is weaker than that against the suspected rapist . . .
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 03:57 PM
Feb 2015

so I guess the President should be happy he was the one labeled with "No Charges" against him.

samsingh

(17,599 posts)
17. this reinforces the argument that they are racist or biased in their reporting
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 06:03 PM
Feb 2015

a black man must be guilty or they all look alike to fox.

this is huge.

and calling themselves news is one of their biggest jokes along with calling themselves journalists. Propaganda masters or repug butt plugs is more appropriate.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
23. This isn't a Fox-owned station
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 06:49 PM
Feb 2015

It's a Tribune owned Fox affiliate. The offending visual occurred during a local broadcast.

For the record, Tribune, which owns the station, also owns the LA Times and the Chicago Tribune: both endorsed Obama in 2012.

Anyone who has worked in local tv understands how these things happen. They actually happen more often than gets attention because most of the time they don't involve the President.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
25. You seem totally unaware of FOX 5 being a clone of Fox News? This is one example of many.
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 07:23 PM
Feb 2015

Last year they played up a birther/immigration protest of 10 people and sent out a reporter to let them spew.

Who cares how they hide themselves behind corporate veils?

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
36. your post implies the actual suspect is black
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 04:29 PM
Feb 2015

unless I missed it, there is no information about the race of the actual suspect.

 

quadrature

(2,049 posts)
27. if Chimpy's head on a stick was OK .
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 07:41 PM
Feb 2015

I don't see what the problem is.

some people are rather thin-skinned

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
28. Can't the anchor also see the monitor showing the inset pic?
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 07:56 PM
Feb 2015

I thought that the "final broadcast" image was on a monitor in front of the news desk. You'd think she would have said something by way of, "Um, obviously that was not a picture of the suspect."

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Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
29. Disgusting.
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 08:08 PM
Feb 2015

Faux didn't get their reputation for nothing. Even a lot of their local stations are full of assholes. I know I can't stand Faux News channel or my local Fox station. Both are chock full of assholes.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
38. I'd like to see a picture of the rear end of a dog
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 06:34 PM
Feb 2015

and a photoshopped pic of Sean Hanniity's head emerging from the dog's anus. In every way, he's dog shit.

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