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Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:03 AM

 

The GOP won't be nominating clowns again

It cost them most of Virginia and now a Senate seat. The GOP is most likely going to get the "nominate the most morally repugnant candidate to piss off the SJW's" wing (AKA Trumpists) in line. There won't be another Moore. The adults, such as they are, will try and take charge and bring the 4chan brigade to heel.

We need to replicate our successes with turnout here throughout the country. Not relying on the GOP to step on a rake.

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Reply The GOP won't be nominating clowns again (Original post)
NCDem777 Dec 2017 OP
The Wielding Truth Dec 2017 #1
NCDem777 Dec 2017 #3
rzemanfl Dec 2017 #34
Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2017 #2
NCDem777 Dec 2017 #4
Willie Pep Dec 2017 #15
OnDoutside Dec 2017 #5
NCDem777 Dec 2017 #6
OnDoutside Dec 2017 #9
JonLP24 Dec 2017 #7
NCDem777 Dec 2017 #8
Kentonio Dec 2017 #10
whistler162 Dec 2017 #11
Vogon_Glory Dec 2017 #12
grantcart Dec 2017 #13
GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #14
Joe941 Dec 2017 #16
themaguffin Dec 2017 #17
TNLib Dec 2017 #18
L. Coyote Dec 2017 #19
FSogol Dec 2017 #20
Orsino Dec 2017 #21
Bettie Dec 2017 #22
brooklynite Dec 2017 #23
muriel_volestrangler Dec 2017 #24
herding cats Dec 2017 #25
delisen Dec 2017 #26
Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #27
Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2017 #28
karynnj Dec 2017 #29
struggle4progress Dec 2017 #30
hatrack Dec 2017 #31
kcr Dec 2017 #32
drray23 Dec 2017 #33

Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:04 AM

1. But they have nothing else.

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Response to The Wielding Truth (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:25 AM

3. Had the GOP basically nominated ANYONE else

 

they would have won. The less psychotic GOPers would not have wrote in other people.

I'm not saying the achievement in black turnout isn't impressive.

What I am saying is that we need to have a plan to keep that turnout high and motivate our voters to keep showing.

The alt-right's "nominate the worst people we can find for the sole purpose of making SJW's complain" strategy might be fun for Internet trolls on 4chan and elsewhere, but won't be seen as viable by actual adults in the GOP, such as they are, going forward. It cost them Virginia and now this.

We're going to see the adults reassert themselves. Gotta get ready.

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Response to The Wielding Truth (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 04:34 PM

34. +1 n/t.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:22 AM

2. The GOP brass did everything in their power to not nominate this clown

 

If the local shit kickers know better they can't do too much to stop them.

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Response to Sen. Walter Sobchak (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:31 AM

4. Yeah but this was Alabama

 

the swing states (Ohio, Michigan, etc.) and the soon to be swing states, are a whole other animal.

Sure, it's possible that Internet trolls and their leaders like Bannon and Milo might force a few crazies that are just crazy enough to cause write-ins to tip the election.

But they can't be relied on. We have to replicate our success in AL.

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Response to Sen. Walter Sobchak (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 10:02 AM

15. Yeah that is the thing with primaries.

Primary voters tend to be more extreme than the average voter and this can sometimes hurt you in the general election.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:43 AM

5. A reasonable moderate has virtually no chance of being nominated, despite Moore's loss. The GOP

needs to officially blow up, to get the poison out, before that can change.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:47 AM

6. Hopefully you're right

 

But I'm not counting on it. Neither should the DNC.

Trump notwithstanding, GOP is capable of feigning sanity when they need to.

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Response to NCDem777 (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 06:14 AM

9. They have a massive problem with the over active hard right/Tea Party/RWNJs, as can be seen by the

hounding out of office of the ordinary decent criminals like Corker, Flake and Dent. The tail is wagging the Donkey !!!

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:47 AM

7. What is their position on abortion or illegal immigrants taking our jobs

Which I heard a lot from Moore supporters. I can't tell at this point but it looks like years of crazy propaganda has led to crazy people running for office not just voting R and watch Fox News. I have you seen Trump's feed?

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Response to JonLP24 (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:54 AM

8. Yes I have

 

But to lose a to a Dem in Alabama, let me say it again, Alabama, you know the GOP brass is going to take control. Letting the crazies have the run of the place might have appeared to work in 2016. But I think they're going to think that they just got damn lucky.

It's not every election you run against a person whose staff has no understanding of e-mail security.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 06:25 AM

10. I think you're right

 

But we're also hopefully going to be seeing the anti-Trump wave continue into 2018, especially as the jackass keeps reminding everyone what a despicable asshole he is. We defeinitely can't rely on the GOP shooting themselves in the face forever though, we need to keep working damn hard and ensuring we do everything in our control to give ourselves the best possible chance in every race.

In 2009 we thought we had the world at our feet and the GOP were dying an inevitable death. Now they control everything and we're suffering the consequences. The lesson needs to be that never again can we rest on our laurels. Hard work wins elections.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 06:30 AM

11. Thanks for the laugh since that

eliminates many of the House Repubblicans and many Republican Senators from renomination.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 08:16 AM

12. Don't Bet On Team Pachyderm's Ringmasters Learning Their Lesson

There are plenty of incumbent Repiggie clowns running for re-election.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 08:25 AM

13. Of course they will, their "clown radar" was thrown out by Nixon with his 'Southern Strategy'

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 10:01 AM

14. Your theory lacks validity because that is exactly what they tried in Alabama

They have lost control of the tea party nuts who now own the nominating process of the party. The far right of the Republican Party will continue to nominate hard to elect candidates. Leadership has no control whatsoever.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 10:03 AM

16. but all repukes are clowns.

 

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 10:06 AM

17. They try to out extreme each other in primary. Don't hold your breath for "moderates"

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 10:09 AM

18. I don't think Bannon and the Alt-Right will go away

Also you have to look at what has happened to the GOP base. They're basically a bunch of loony's who probably never got involved in politics until the tea party movement. It's going to take the GOP a decade or so to get moderates back in the party to start electing qualified candidates in their primaries.

It's been a slippery slope of pandering to the crazies for decades and now this is the result.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 10:10 AM

19. That's hilarious. The GOP didn't nominate Moore, he decided to become a candidate and won a primary.

And if you think the people who don't accept that they lost the Civil War are going to learn from this experience, well then you don't understand how racism works.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 10:11 AM

20. Sure they will. The GOP clowns will double down. Expect more God this, God that & the Holy Bye-Ball



We won in VA because the talked about the issues like transportation, infrastructure, and jobs, while the GOP talked about bathroom police, prayer in schools, flag burning, and a host of other goof ball issues.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 10:12 AM

21. The volatile base isn't going anywhere.

The GOP stands for one thing and one thing only: letting rich white men do whatever the fuck they want. The party is a sitting duck for whatever reactionary tool with no inside voice that comes along to steamroller their bland conservabot career pols.

And they'll all cheer for him.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 10:21 AM

22. But, how do they reign in the crazy now

how do they un-ring that bell? Because Republican primary voters tend to be drawn from the most extreme and, apparently, the dumbest people in any given district.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 10:49 AM

23. Not sure the GOP can control the nomination process...

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 03:34 PM

24. They nominated Jesse Helms in 1972

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 03:42 PM

25. Im pretty sure their extremist are not giving up that easily.

When the GOP validated the Tea Party’s dreams by giving Sarah Palin a national platform, they emboldened their crazy, hate filled fringe. Since then they’ve pretty lost control of their Frankenstein monster.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 03:45 PM

26. The New Moral Majority is Democrats.

A real moral majority taking over from the fake moral majority of faux christianity and supply-side Jesus.

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Wed Dec 13, 2017, 03:46 PM

27. They are going to have to find candidates with gravitas. Or who can fake it. nt

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 03:48 PM

28. I (mostly) agree with your point

We don't want to COUNT on them nominating clowns. But that doesn't mean they won't and it doesn't mean that we don't challenge them whenever and wherever we can. We need to put up candidates in every race and make the Republicans fight for votes.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 03:59 PM

29. Review 2010 and 2012 - This year was not the first time.

They lost Senate seats that should have been easy or at least only moderately hard to keep by going with extremely iffy candidates -- they had a sure thing in Delaware in a race to replace Senator Kaufman, who was the person selected to fill Biden's place and opted not to run for re-election. This seat seemed doomed because the Republicans had a popular, moderate person to run - Mike Castle, who easily was seen to defeat any Democrat. But ... he lost the primary to Christine O'Donnell - best known for having an ad that stated that she was "not a witch". Seriously, having to argue that you were not engaging in witchcraft is really not a good situation. Not to mention -- it seemed she funded her life, living on excess campaign contributions from past failed runs -- pretty ethically challenged.

She may have been the worst, but she was not alone. Sharon Angle who challenged Reid was very strange,

Then in 2012, Ted Akun - saved McCaskill's seat for her with his comments on rape ... and we gained an unlikely seat after Mourdock succeeding in primarying the very likely to win the general election, Lugar.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 04:00 PM

30. Oh, get real! Sure they will!

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 04:02 PM

31. They have to - their base consists of clowns - no greasepaint or little cars, no ballots!

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 04:04 PM

32. This is wrong. The right wingers in Alabama nominated Roy Moore.

And there is nothing stopping anything like that from happening again. This is why the whole idea of thinking the GOP can be taught lessons or shamed out of their behavior, or the notion they're looking to us for any moral guidance, is wrong. The strategy of getting our own out to vote won the day. That's how you do it. Dems can never forget how we won this time around because they will certainly keep trying. This time we beat them at their own game. Get out the vote.

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Response to NCDem777 (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 04:26 PM

33. they dont have a choice. they unleashed the crazies.

Those voters are the ones showing up in the primaries and they will keep electing rw nuts despite what the RNC might want to do. They lost control of their party, its been taken over by extremists.

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