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MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 03:22 PM Dec 2017

Wyden is floating a pending Franken resignation by tomorrow...

Frankly, I'm disappointed that Dems aren't fighting back and against any possible unsubstantiated smears against Franken in particular. As far as I'm concerned in his case, the proof against him is flimsy at best and, at the worst, a concerted right wing conspiracy.

We're seeing some unnecessary self-inflicted wounds happening this week. The Conyers drama is particularly disheartening for me. But it's time to move on and I'm glad to see that he has the integrity to step out of the arena. The voters in MI-13 need to take it away from here.

It's so clear that Democrats and Republicans each operate different levels. We hold ourselves to very high standards, even when doing so is politically inconvenient. We have the greater moral compass here. The GOPrs, on the other hand, are the unrepentant party of rape, sexism, racism and child molestation.

It's clear that we draw and thick and clearly definable line between our side and theirs.

Because if we're going to hang their own reprehensible behavior around their chinless necks like the albatross that it is, we need to do it with clean consciences.

I would be sad to see Al go tomorrow, but I would understand why he would choose to go. We can't play the same dirty game that the GOPrs are playing. Winning isn't everything when you cheat to do it. The only people who cheat are those who can't win fair and square.

Tainted victories are bound to be pyrrhic and temporary. I truly believe that.



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Wyden is floating a pending Franken resignation by tomorrow... (Original Post) MrScorpio Dec 2017 OP
im sure MFM008 Dec 2017 #1
He cant be forced to resign and I hope he doesnt. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #2
But that's the thing. We already HAD the greater moral compass. kcr Dec 2017 #3
I want to see the PROOF against Al, if there is any.. pangaia Dec 2017 #4

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
2. He cant be forced to resign and I hope he doesnt.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 03:27 PM
Dec 2017

As a resident of MN I want my vote to be respected. If the voters of Alabama get to choose Roy Moore, why can’t we choose Al Franken? I’m afraid he’ll end up as collateral damage as the Dems try to win their good conduct medal.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
3. But that's the thing. We already HAD the greater moral compass.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 03:28 PM
Dec 2017

We DO hold ourselves to very high standards. We always have. There was absolutely no need for us to prove a point here. We don't let anyone on our side get away with it and we never have. That is why the claims of hypocrisy were without merit. There was no reason why we couldn't have an investigation first. The GOP were taking advantage of a climate where lots of women were coming forward and claiming the opportunity to take down one of our best. The claim that we needed to throw him right under the bus with no investigation at the behest of the GOP or run the risk of looking like hypocrites is wrong.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
4. I want to see the PROOF against Al, if there is any..
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 03:29 PM
Dec 2017

And proof of... what?? Something,,,,

This whole thing stinks.. and too many Democratic politicians are falling for it,.


Spoken with the knowledge that there COULD be something big there that we don;t know about..
I just don't believe it...

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