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applegrove

(118,793 posts)
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 07:33 PM Dec 2017

Republicans Arent Sharing Any Information About Their Tax Cut Bill With Democrats As National Disgu

Last edited Fri Dec 1, 2017, 08:16 PM - Edit history (2)

By Sarah Jones at Politicus USA

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/12/01/republicans-sharing-information-tax-cut-bill-democrats-national-disgust-grows.html

"SNIP..........


Not only have Democrats not seen the legislation, but Republicans haven’t provided them with a list of amendments that will be included in the bill.

According to Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO):

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@clairecmc
This is so bad. We have just gotten list of amendments to be included in bill NOT from our R colleagues, but from lobbyists downtown. None of us have seen this list, but lobbyists have it. Need I say more? Disgusting. And we probably will not even be given time to read them.
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Republicans are carrying out an act of theft in broad daylight on the Senate floor. Instead of a bipartisan process that respects how a legislature is supposed to function, Mitch McConnell and company have been secretly railroading the American people by not providing information and details on what will be voted on.

Senate Republicans have given lobbyists more information than they have Democrats and the American people.


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*List of amendments (some) at link.

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Republicans Arent Sharing Any Information About Their Tax Cut Bill With Democrats As National Disgu (Original Post) applegrove Dec 2017 OP
K&R 2naSalit Dec 2017 #1
McConnell has in the past, Wellstone ruled Dec 2017 #2
The French had enough....I seriously wonder about American people. pbmus Dec 2017 #3
So much this. Alpeduez21 Dec 2017 #5
Time to march: traitors, sell outs of America are not welcome. Get out. notdarkyet Dec 2017 #13
this amounts to taxation without representation. citizens of any state with no republican senators unblock Dec 2017 #4
me too. illinois. mopinko Dec 2017 #8
Why can't the Democrats filibuster this bill? Sedona Dec 2017 #6
under reconciliation rules, it only requires 50 votes (+pence) unblock Dec 2017 #9
Fuck corruption world wide wally Dec 2017 #7
And the lobbyists aren't sharing it with the Republicans! L. Coyote Dec 2017 #10
"Theft". zentrum Dec 2017 #11
They are desperate to ram this disaster through Mr. Evil Dec 2017 #12
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. McConnell has in the past,
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 07:37 PM
Dec 2017

claimed he would run this Bill without any input from any Democrat. He also claimed he had Senatorial Republican Donors all lined up for 2018 and 2020. This story should not surprise anyone,he did this with the ACA.

unblock

(52,328 posts)
4. this amounts to taxation without representation. citizens of any state with no republican senators
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 07:42 PM
Dec 2017

are shut out of the process. it's one thing to draft a bill that caters only to one party, it's another thing to not even let the other party read it or know what's going on.



letting them vote at the last minute without time to read the bill is pretend representation.

i live in connecticut, both my senators are democrats, so my taxes will go up when they eliminate the state tax and property tax deductions, and they're doing it without me having a represented voice in the senate.


unblock

(52,328 posts)
9. under reconciliation rules, it only requires 50 votes (+pence)
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 08:56 PM
Dec 2017

the rules are arcane, but basically certain specific bills aren't subject to cloture (the 60 vote rule).

it's causing republicans headaches trying to get it to comply with these rules, most notably, it can't bust the budget (their budget resolution passed earlier this year allows for $1.5 trillion in extra deficit spending over the next 10 years, so they can't exceed that) and also it can't increase the deficit *at all* after that 10 year period. this is why they made certain tax breaks only temporary.

they can essentially do this for one bill each fiscal year. last fiscal year they did it on the obamacare repeal bill, which failed.

the new fiscal year started october 1.

Mr. Evil

(2,856 posts)
12. They are desperate to ram this disaster through
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 10:34 PM
Dec 2017

so the Disaster-In-Chief can sign it before Mueller has him arrested. All republicans that vote for this scam are traitors to the USA and the American people.

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