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orangecrush

(19,620 posts)
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 01:49 PM Dec 2017

CNBC - "Flynn to testify that Trump directed him to make contact with Russians"

Flynn to testify that Trump directed him to make contact with Russians: Reports
Former National Security Advisor Gen. Michael Flynn is reportedly willing to testify that President Donald Trump and Trump transition officials directed him to make contact with Russians during Trump's 2016 presidential campaign.
Flynn has pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI, a felony that is believed to be part of a deal to cooperate with Special Counsel Robert Mueller.
Trump has vehemently denied that he ever had anything to do with Russia.

Citing a Flynn "confidant," ABC News' Brian Ross reported that Flynn has "promised full cooperation" with Special Counsel Robert Mueller, and he is "prepared to testify against President Trump, against members of the Trump family and others in the White House. He is prepared to testify that President Trump, as a candidate, Donald Trump, ordered and directed him to make contact with the Russians, which contradicts all that Donald Trump has said at this point."


https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/01/flynn-to-testify-trump-ordered-him-to-contact-russians-reports.html


Just posted because it's from another source besides ABC.

A few people seemed worried about ABC being the only source reporting this.




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CNBC - "Flynn to testify that Trump directed him to make contact with Russians" (Original Post) orangecrush Dec 2017 OP
And who else? C_U_L8R Dec 2017 #1
batten down the hatches orangecrush Dec 2017 #3
Dreams DO come true! yallerdawg Dec 2017 #2
a ray of sunshine orangecrush Dec 2017 #4
Yes, where are his handlers? janx Dec 2017 #7
mopping up orangecrush Dec 2017 #8
post of the day!! haha D_Master81 Dec 2017 #23
Ummmm - it's from another source besides ABC. jberryhill Dec 2017 #5
true orangecrush Dec 2017 #11
In what respect, Charlie? jberryhill Dec 2017 #13
True! janx Dec 2017 #15
The story is as good as the anonymous source to ABC jberryhill Dec 2017 #21
Washington Post: janx Dec 2017 #19
Yes, that was in the indictment to which he pled guilty jberryhill Dec 2017 #20
Notice the source trends that are happening. Wellstone ruled Dec 2017 #27
Except CNBC's source is ABC emulatorloo Dec 2017 #6
This happens a lot here jberryhill Dec 2017 #10
true orangecrush Dec 2017 #16
it is orangecrush Dec 2017 #12
Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! lagomorph777 Dec 2017 #9
Indy escaped the stone ball and went on to do great things. EL34x4 Dec 2017 #14
more like... orangecrush Dec 2017 #17
Ok how 'bout this lagomorph777 Dec 2017 #18
The ABC report says he was directed to contact Russia B2G Dec 2017 #22
A few people were right jberryhill Dec 2017 #24
I'm not going to answer until Mensch tells me what to think. Orrex Dec 2017 #25
So why was Brian Ross suspended????? Chasstev365 Dec 2017 #26
K&R... spanone Dec 2017 #28
He Said vs He Said? Trump will just deny it. n/t USALiberal Dec 2017 #29

C_U_L8R

(45,021 posts)
1. And who else?
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 01:53 PM
Dec 2017

Anyone inside the White House must be asking themselves...
do I fall on my sword and continue lying for the Trump
or do I tell the truth and testify?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. Ummmm - it's from another source besides ABC.
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 01:59 PM
Dec 2017

No it's not. It's CNBC reporting that ABC is reporting it.

Citing a Flynn "confidant," ABC News' Brian Ross reported that

Well, duh, we know ABC reported that.

This is not some kind of independent confirmation. It's basically CNBC saying "ABC is saying..."

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
13. In what respect, Charlie?
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:05 PM
Dec 2017

Actually, it shows a lack of confidence by CNBC, since they are careful to attribute the report to ABC.

That sort of "report" is along the lines of "don't blame us if it isn't true, because we are only saying ABC said it."

janx

(24,128 posts)
15. True!
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:06 PM
Dec 2017

I jumped the gun on that one too. We'll have to wait and see. I keep checking the WaPost.

Still, ABC is not exactly an unreliable or tabloid source.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
21. The story is as good as the anonymous source to ABC
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:43 PM
Dec 2017

Which may or may not be accurate, since there is no way to tell.

ABC is reporting "anonymous source says X". Other outlets are reporting "ABC is reporting that anonymous source says X".

Independent confirmation would be for another outlet to report it in a way which does not refer back to the ABC report.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
20. Yes, that was in the indictment to which he pled guilty
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:41 PM
Dec 2017

Flynn's indictment refers to "senior campaign official".

The OP is about Trump directing him.

Do you see that these are not the same thing?

I hate to be a nudge about stuff like this, but that WaPo story is based on public facts, because that's exactly what the indictment said. The ABC report, which may be true for all we know, is a sole-source report, of which this WaPo piece referring to "senior transition officials" is not confirmation.

We already know that senior officials had instructed Flynn, because that's among what he just admitted. That's not the same thing as "Trump". We'll have to wait and see.
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
27. Notice the source trends that are happening.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 02:56 PM
Dec 2017

NBC is using their Business Media to release more and more anti Trump news. Countering Fake Business going out of Business Channel.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
10. This happens a lot here
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:02 PM
Dec 2017

It would be good if the report were accurate. We'll have to wait and see.

But, yeah, there are people on DU who think "independent confirmation" is when one network reports "another network is reporting".

Quite obviously CNBC has no independent information on this, and is simply passing on what ABC is reporting.

The circular logic doesn't seem apparent to everyone.

orangecrush

(19,620 posts)
16. true
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:07 PM
Dec 2017

But the CNBC headline lends confidence to the ABC report.

I don't see "maybe" in the headline.

I do see your point, though.

Fingers crossed.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
9. Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:02 PM
Dec 2017

Mueller is that giant stone ball in Raiders of the Lost Ark, and Turd is Indy. Soon-to-be-flat-Indy.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
22. The ABC report says he was directed to contact Russia
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:44 PM
Dec 2017

about cooperating with defeating ISIS.

Maybe I'm missing something...

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
24. A few people were right
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 02:23 PM
Dec 2017

"A few people seemed worried about ABC being the only source reporting this."

Have we learned something?
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