Shrinking Obama's national monuments for extracting oil, coal, and uranium

[L. Coyote]

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[Wellstone ruled]

1. Watch for some major

announcement next Tuesday from Salt Lake. Is not going to be pretty.

[ATL Ebony]

2. I don't believe they'll mind.

They blew a gasket last year when Obama claimed the lands as national monuments without asking Utah what they wanted. Instead, if I recall correctly, he meet with local Indians and proceeded to preserve these lands as national monuments knowing that it would block Trump/Republicans from destroying the land for oil drilling, etc.

[Wellstone ruled]

3. The last poll dealing with

monuments in Utah,the States Residents where 60+ for and the rest is History. Utah's number one Employer is Tourism second is the Mormon Church.

[ATL Ebony]

7. I'll have to check current polls but I'm basing my comments from last year during the Obama era.

Thanks, will research for updated info. Yes, residents were "all in" but the opposition wasn't from residents but rather from Utah politicians and their stated anger was due to Obama doing it without a vote or considering input from Utah politicians. Maybe things/positions have changed -- off to look for current info.

[Wellstone ruled]

8. So true.

The issue is Race Based and that is what it is. Every County Commissar in the State is all in with wiping out the two Monuments.

The Residents know better,but they keep voting for these Knuckle Dragger's because they have a R after their names on the Ballots.

Here is what most people miss,the Republican Party of Utah wants to return their State to what it looked like in 1970. Well guess what,you want to see what that looks like,go to the city of Tremonton,Utah. Hee-Haw!!!

[L. Coyote]

4. You've been listening to Republican talking points. Get the facts

instead of posting your personal hearsay.

[ATL Ebony]

5. That's an inaccurate statement -- I NEVER listen to rethug talking points and . . .

didn't post personal hearsay. Thanks for your comment.

[hatrack]

9. Public Meetings On Bears Ears Ran For Five Years; US Negotiated With Five Tribes In The Process

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Bishop and Trump also complained that Obama and Clinton had abused presidential power by creating monuments without adequately involving the public, although the Antiquities Act does not require public involvement. Obama created Bears Ears after five years of public meetings, which also involved negotiations between five tribes that first proposed the monument to protect the West’s largest collection of tribal artifacts, as well as Utah lawmakers who also sought to protect Bears Ears, but on a smaller scale.

When Clinton created Grand Staircase, he kept the Utah congressional delegation in the dark until it was too late. They learned the news at the same time as the public, infuriating them. Creating the Grand Staircase put a lucrative seam of coal deep inside the monument out of reach of miners. But it’s not as if the monument size and boundaries haven’t been examined before now. The Utah Association of Counties sought unsuccessfully to overturn the monument in court. Congress has also already readjusted the monument’s boundaries with legislation that involved a substantial land exchange and federal payment to the State of Utah.

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https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/08/trump-shrinks-national-monuments-zinke-interior-report-public-lands/

[ATL Ebony]

10. Thank you hatrack, this is the info I trying to impart but didn't remember all the details.

Hope I didn't mislead others. I should have looked up the details vs giving a synopsis from memory.

[hatrack]

11. No worries . . .

[L. Coyote]

6. SUWA Statement on Reports President Trump Will Eliminate 85% of Bears Ears and Half of Grand ...

SUWA Statement on Reports President Trump Will Eliminate 85% of Bears Ears and Half of Grand Staircase-Escalante

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Contact: Steve Bloch, 801-428-3981

In response to reports in the Washington Post today that President Trump intends to eliminate 85% of Bears Ears National Monument and half of Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument, Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance Executive Director Scott Groene issued the following statement:

“If President Trump chooses to act on the disgraceful work that is leaking out of the Department of Interior by shrinking Bears Ears and Grand Staircase Escalante National Monuments, it will not withstand its coming test in courts any more than it will withstand the judgement of history.”

“The new boundaries reflected in the leaked reports are a decimation of two iconic landscapes and an insult to the tribes that advocated to protect Bears Ears. To slash these monuments at the behest of ideological extremists and dirty energy barons without regard to the consequences to the landscape or to the overwhelming consensus of millions of Americans who have voiced strong opposition to any changes to our national monuments would be the single most harmful attack any president has launched on public lands.”

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