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Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 04:09 PM Nov 2017

No proof of collusion? That's what Republicans say

constantly. Well you can't have it both ways. Where is the proof there is "not" collusion? Maybe the bank down the street has been robbed. But you don't know about it until somebody tells you. A witness. The police. A news report. An investigator.
I can't understand why Democrats and reporters don't use or really understand logic. Aren't some of these folks supposed to be well-educated?

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No proof of collusion? That's what Republicans say (Original Post) Lint Head Nov 2017 OP
In the end their words don't matter Cary Nov 2017 #1
"Where is the proof there is "not" collusion?" B2G Nov 2017 #2
I know that's not how this works. But the Republicans are saying there is no proof Lint Head Nov 2017 #4
If they apply the same standard to Hillary Clinton, why has DT already found her guilty? Doodley Nov 2017 #3
Exactly Lint Head Nov 2017 #5
She's guilty because she's Hillary Clinton-that's all that matters. Boomerproud Nov 2017 #11
There is no proof of collusion.... kentuck Nov 2017 #6
Damn right! Lint Head Nov 2017 #7
I think the reporters and dems(politicians and commentators) believe that a reiteration of the facts is better spin. nocalflea Nov 2017 #8
The crotch grabbing and saying he can shoot someone Lint Head Nov 2017 #10
Simple - GOP knows where their money is and follows "its" lead... for that matter bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #9
To be fair, "no proof of collusion" is not equal to "proof there is not collusion" Thor_MN Nov 2017 #12
I'm not "demanding" anything. You do not understand my post. Lint Head Nov 2017 #13
"Where is the proof there is "not" collusion?" Your words. Thor_MN Nov 2017 #14
Wish you had not "explained " in the first place. Youy don't get it. Bye. Lint Head Nov 2017 #15
Sorry, it is you who doesn't get it. Thor_MN Nov 2017 #16
Do you have proof you are not a murderer? jmg257 Nov 2017 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #18
well i want bluestarone Nov 2017 #19

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
4. I know that's not how this works. But the Republicans are saying there is no proof
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 04:23 PM
Nov 2017

"of" collusion. And the silly argument needs to be flipped on to the GOP. Collusion is not a crime. Conspiracy to commit treason is.

Boomerproud

(7,952 posts)
11. She's guilty because she's Hillary Clinton-that's all that matters.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 07:48 PM
Nov 2017

It's been that way since 1992 and it will never change. Guilty of what? Who cares!!!!

That's it. I'm over it. I'm gone.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
7. Damn right!
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 04:29 PM
Nov 2017

And someone right here in my home state was convicted of murder based on circumstantial evidence.

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
8. I think the reporters and dems(politicians and commentators) believe that a reiteration of the facts is better spin.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 04:36 PM
Nov 2017

Why play a game of semantics when you have verifiable facts on your side.

Keep the facts of the case out in front of the public.

But yeah, "You can't prove they didn't collude, nanny goat, nanny goat" , is certainly more emotionally gratifying.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
10. The crotch grabbing and saying he can shoot someone
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 07:41 PM
Nov 2017

on 5th Avenue and still get elected didn't convince people? Really. When have facts convince the GOP when it comes to Trump?

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
12. To be fair, "no proof of collusion" is not equal to "proof there is not collusion"
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 07:31 AM
Nov 2017

They are claiming the former (and they are wrong) and you are demanding the later, which is something that they have not claimed.

Asking to prove a negative is an indicator that someone doesn't understand logic.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
13. I'm not "demanding" anything. You do not understand my post.
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 12:58 PM
Nov 2017

Of course you can't prove a negative. That's the purpose of my post. The GOP's 'there is no proof of collusion' is just as absurd as 'there is not proof there is not'.
Didn't think I would have to explain or define such a simple concept.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
14. "Where is the proof there is "not" collusion?" Your words.
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 01:08 PM
Nov 2017

"The GOP's 'there is no proof of collusion' is just as absurd as 'there is not proof there is not'."

No, it is not. Saying that no proof has come out that something happened is not the same that proof exists that something did not happen.

If you don't understand that, I'm not going to take the time to explain it to you.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
16. Sorry, it is you who doesn't get it.
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 01:21 PM
Nov 2017

You are proposing that Democrats and reporters make fools of themselves by asking for proof that there was no collusion.

Most people don't like when their errors are pointed out, so I'm not surprised that you wish I hadn't posted.

Response to Lint Head (Original post)

bluestarone

(16,928 posts)
19. well i want
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 02:01 PM
Nov 2017

perjury treason tax evasion money laundering fraud breaks my heart if they find no collusion

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