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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThese three words alone could force Trump to resign.
Subject to blackmail. If mueller reports, presents evidence to congress and the american people that shows Trump, people who work him are subject to blackmail; Game over. Major national security risk. Trumps behavior about Russia supports blackmail. He denied America was attacked. That is serious business.
Its self evident; When you secretly meet with the enemy and attempt to fix an election you are subject to blackmail.
If you recall, Sally Yates went to the Whitehouse to warn Trump about Flynn being subject to blackmail. Trump did nothing. Big mistake. A few days later the crazy fuck fired Yates. The press got hold of the story a couple of weeks later which forced Trump to remove Flynn. If Flynn was subject to blackmail so are many other people including Tr ump.
Forget impeachment, the republicans will fight that. I think its fair to say most republicans in congress do not like Trump. I can see a repeat of what happened to Nixon. They will tell him to resign. They would rather have pence in there. He is one of them. I have big problems with pence but I believe he is sane. Trump and his voters are a fucking cult.
If those three words are not enough mueller can add these three words, Obstruction of Justice. Trump is guilty as hell.
For two years it has felt like reality had left America. It has been hell for the sane people of America. Reality is about to make a major come back. When people start getting arrested for serious crimes shit gets real quickly.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)There was a flurry of information about Trump leaked by the Intelligence Community shortly before he took office. News report suggested that the IC released it because if they had kept it secret, Trump would be subject to blackmail.
shockey80
(4,379 posts)A couple of weeks ago I was talking to two Trump voters at work. I told them a lot a people are going to be indicted. They acted like I was out of my mind. So many people across this country have no idea about this investigation or how serious it is. They were working with the enemy. Dam.
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)Someone needs to live-stream the reactions of every single Trump voter.
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)So if they don't see it on Fox, they have no idea it's going on. It really is like a completely different world.
SweetieD
(1,660 posts)Kleveland
(1,257 posts)I cannot honestly agree that any Zealot is "sane".
I will say that he knows something about politics, unlike the rotted orange.
moriah
(8,311 posts)... master plan, possibly why they voted for him and why Pence accepted the nomination to convince other religious Conservatives to do it. Trump might be nuts and have baggage, but if he gets removed from office without also removing Pence, we get a President who probably watches Hulu's "The Handmaid's Tale" as inspiration for his Presidency.
Nothing needs to happen to Trump until Pence is implicated as well, and preferably targeted first. He definitely doesn't need to get harmed in any way.
I hope that Democrats in the Senate and House focus hard on anything that demonstrates that Pence knew or deliberately chose not to know (indicating he knew that things were happening that were too inappropriate to be linked to) any of these problems. We Democrats on the ground need to do what we can to get more Democrats in the House in 2018, and defend the Senate. And hopefully we can manage to negotiate Pence's resignation first and have more clout in choosing a new VP, then kicking out Trump.
Remember, if you think this is going to be a Nixon situation, Agnew would have been worse had they not gotten rid of him first.
shockey80
(4,379 posts)I was just making the point that pence is not mentally ill like Trump. He might try to turn the white house into the vatican but I don't think he would start a world war.
moriah
(8,311 posts)Remember there's a significant portion of the RR culture that not only believes certain interpretations of Revelations absolutely will happen soon, they WANT to make it happen faster.
A condition for the wanted Rapture/Coming of Christ in that view is Israel gaining enough control over Jerusalem to rebuild the Temple.
He might not use inspiration from Elton John for his rhetoric against NK, but he's likely to agree to backing out of the Iran deal simply to create instability in the ME that eventually forces Israel to use its own weapons. If that's not its own version of insanity that *would* lead to a world war, I don't know what else you call it.
(Edit to clarify: This isn't meant to get into I/P issues, more that there is an agenda in the RR for promoting instability in the ME.)
shockey80
(4,379 posts)I believe this investigation is going to take years, Its that big. I think Mueller may go after Trump sooner than later because it's a national security issue.
This investigation is so big and still growing because people outside the campaign were involved. I not sure but I think thats how Watergate went down. They got Nixon and the investigation continued on and a lot of people went to jail.