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https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/former-wharton-professor-trump-was-dumbest-gdamm-student-i-ever-hadDonald J. Trump was an undergraduate student at Wharton for the latter two of his college years, having graduated in 1968.
Professor Kelley told me 100 times over three decades that Donald Trump was the dumbest goddam student I ever had. I remember his emphasis and inflection it went like this: Donald Trump was the dumbest goddamn student I ever had. Kelley told me this after Trump had become a celebrity, but long before he was considered a political figure. Kelley often referred to Trumps arrogance when he told the story that Trump came to Wharton thinking he already knew everything.
This has relevance now because as recently as this week, President Trump challenged the Secretary of State of the United States to an IQ contest. This came within two days after NBC reported that Secretary of State Rex Tillerson called the President a moron or a "f**king moron." The president has frequently bragged that he was a great student at a great school (Wharton). Thus, the public is entitled to a contrary view from somebody who was there (Dr. Kelley), and I faithfully report it here.
Bill Kelley was one smart cookie. His textbook was standard in his time in the then-new field of marketing intelligence and the necessity of using computers and databases to manage it. (See onlinelibrary.wiley.com which credits Bill for coining the quoted phrase.)
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Tracyjo
(729 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,125 posts)Sneederbunk
(14,319 posts)marybourg
(12,648 posts)to see Pres. Obama's transcripts?
iluvtennis
(19,902 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,249 posts)I know there is more than one writer, because he probably fucked them over somehow after getting them.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)janterry
(4,429 posts)..............just saying
BootinUp
(47,210 posts)Response to BootinUp (Reply #9)
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BootinUp
(47,210 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,507 posts)You question the integrity of a Wharton professor?
former9thward
(32,130 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,507 posts)Maybe Trump will release his transcript when he releases his taxes.
Mariana
(14,863 posts)gademocrat7
(10,682 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)He told us so. And you know he would never lie about something like that.
JDC
(10,144 posts)Best_man23
(4,914 posts)BootinUp
(47,210 posts)dubyadiprecession
(5,738 posts)tanyev
(42,669 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,650 posts)I wonder if they were equally stupid.
brush
(53,971 posts)milestogo
(16,829 posts)when in fact he went to the School of Assholery for Grifters and Con Men.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)He came in first in Dumbest Goddamnery at Wharton. Now that is an accomplishment worthy of headline news worldwide. All of our country's winning makes me so proud!
former9thward
(32,130 posts)Interesting he is silent on that.
NJCher
(35,818 posts)I can tell you that is not the case. Grades are confidential. If Trump wants to make it public, fine, but no professor should ever reveal a student's grade, even if the student is Trump.
The professor never stated the grade as a matter of professional behavior.
Cher
former9thward
(32,130 posts)Since you are "speaking as a professor" wouldn't you give the "dumbest G*ddamn student you ever had" a F? Yet Trump graduated. Is it in your opinion " a matter of professional behavior. " to name one of your students "the dumbest G*ddamn student you even had"?
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)It is well known that he was not even in the top 15%. There is no record of him placing highly. His claim is a blatant lie.
He might have been able to get away with this bullshit in the construction industry, but Washington is an entirely different ball game. People are fact checking all the time and his lies are finally being exposed. Finally, the world is beginning to see him for the fraud he really is and he is panicking.
iluvtennis
(19,902 posts)http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/real-time/Questions-linger-Donald-Trump-academic-record-Wharton.html
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)He's obviously unhinged. He's not just stretching the truth, he's just making shit up out of thin air.
iluvtennis
(19,902 posts)Xolodno
(6,410 posts)WTF?! Who in the fucking blue hell did he pay off or bribe?! No fucking way he earned that. A science degree in Econ will fucking blow your mind. It ain't just some theory which is hard in itself, its theory and plenty of math, in other words the "word problems" that were for extra credit back in grade-middle-high school that very few did, because it was nucking futs hard.
I should know, I got my degree in Econ under the science designation....AND specialized in International Trade Theory and Environmental Economics... This bafoon can't even accept Obama's crowd was larger when its plain as day and can't even fucking wrap his head around Economies of Scale.
iluvtennis
(19,902 posts)..he was a fk-up in regular school and had to be sent to a boys military school. Now ay would he have the discipline to get through 4 ears of college.
rogerashton
(3,920 posts)The math and econometrics (specialized statistics) were not yet required in many programs in the 1960s. And as for economies of scale, I know some economics profs who got their PhDs in this century who can't wrap their minds around that.
Xolodno
(6,410 posts)So if I say we should run a regression, he would say, "maybe you should see a doctor for that".
He probably barely skirted by on the theory and only perked up when it was something he wanted to hear.
Xipe Totec
(43,892 posts)rogerashton
(3,920 posts)when the economics degree is granted by a business school, rather than a college of arts and sciences, the degree would be BS (or BBA) since business schools do not grant BA degrees. A BA from the dept. of economics in the CAS might actually have more science content than the BS from the business school. I don't know whether Wharton would have been any exception.
As to regression, if Trumpie could distinguish between a beta and a beetroot, he wouldn't have gone bankrupt how-many-times.
dalton99a
(81,697 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,421 posts)Intelligence is elitist in right wing world.
DBoon
(22,421 posts)Trump is proof that the most most stupid and meanest white man could still become president
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malaise
(269,272 posts)Nothing has changed - he knows more than everyone else including experts in their various fields.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)A runaway snowball of leftovers from Grifterella's hate stir-up thought this loser in office would be an amazing idea . . . . kind of like they're convinced white people are never to blame for anything, rich people ARE looking out for your best interests, and man-made global warming IS a hoax.
Wounded Bear
(58,772 posts)He might be as "smart" as Einstein but the fact that he believes he's better than everybody else means he'll never learn anything.
MineralMan
(146,350 posts)Moral Compass
(1,529 posts)Weve all gone to school with this guy. The guy that knows freaking everything before he ever walked in the door of a college classroom. The fact that he is continually being corrected and is never really right about anything doesnt seem to faze this brand of idiot. Ive seen Trump do his brag about Wharton and all that and I was absolutely convinced that if we talkes to the professors they wouldve told us that he was as dumb as a box of doorknobs.
Nice to get some confirmation.
Maraya1969
(22,509 posts)the results are rigged but it will be out in the open just how stupid he is
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Dump's combination of being--um--not too bright and his arrogance is deadly. He thinks he knows everything when he knows nothing.
Crowman2009
(2,506 posts)Demtexan
(1,588 posts)His father bought him his grades.
Le Gaucher
(1,547 posts)I don't frigging care what anyone thinks of the fucking bastard. I don't need anyone needs any external validation for their opinion on the pussy grabber.
The only thing that matters is that we focus on limiting the damage he can do through his use of executive privileges and his asshole party members in congress.
yuiyoshida
(41,871 posts)not at all, no indeed.