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It is some twisted lame ass sexism to make Hillary responsible or have to be punished (Original Post) boston bean Oct 2017 OP
I know; it's awful. LisaM Oct 2017 #1
Since when has that stopped anyone... Caliman73 Oct 2017 #2
this i about ignoring rw radio again. limbaugh leads the chorus blaming bill certainot Oct 2017 #24
I agree. Why the hell was Hillary even dragged into this mess? smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #3
When will HRC not be a major RW talking point? ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #4
When the next Democratic woman replaces her. They're not going to stop. Squinch Oct 2017 #10
You mean like Warren? ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #15
Her opponent heated it up a bit, but it would have been there whoever she ran against. Squinch Oct 2017 #16
We need to keep in mind that Dems are not free from the hate ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #17
Absolutely. Squinch Oct 2017 #18
I think Warren is better suited to handle these attacks HopeAgain Oct 2017 #20
Elizabeth has an uncanny ability to fight back... she would kick Donald Dotard's azz!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #28
Scapegoating women for sleazy actions of men delisen Oct 2017 #5
Yes. See this insane and country-harming CNN page today (Cilizza!!!!) sharedvalues Oct 2017 #6
I missed "Silence of Trump/Bush/McConnell" on Ailes, O'Reilly. Come ON, CNN. sharedvalues Oct 2017 #7
Is that effing real? wryter2000 Oct 2017 #13
CNN is droning on again right now about it, "she should have known"...yadda yadda.... George II Oct 2017 #8
K&R... spanone Oct 2017 #9
I wish all the women who have accused 45 in the past would step up now and force the country to face coolsandy Oct 2017 #11
it's off the hook barbtries Oct 2017 #12
Religious right termed HRC the embodimet of the 'Jezebel spirit' bobbieinok Oct 2017 #14
What is new. Blue_true Oct 2017 #19
No woman anywhere, no man anywhere Bettie Oct 2017 #21
Yep... dhill926 Oct 2017 #23
Good point! JoeOtterbein Oct 2017 #22
Don't hate me for this about Bill Clinton Miigwech Oct 2017 #25
Sexual overtures by one's boss in the workplace, by definition, creates a hostile work environment. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #30
She's everyone's no. 1 scapegoat. madaboutharry Oct 2017 #26
Amen Miigwech Oct 2017 #27
I agree with you completely... the question is: what can be done about it? InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #29

Caliman73

(11,736 posts)
2. Since when has that stopped anyone...
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 08:41 PM
Oct 2017

from blaming women for men's actions, especially if that woman is in a position of power, and ESPECIALLY if that woman's name happens to be Hillary Clinton.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
24. this i about ignoring rw radio again. limbaugh leads the chorus blaming bill
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 11:25 PM
Oct 2017

and the liberals that 'excused' him, equating weinstien and bill clinton even tho lewinsky was a consenting adult, and then blaming hilalary for 'standing by her man'

that's what limbaugh said this morning and will be repeated by the hundreds of other ignorant lying blowhards on 1500 radio stations.

the absurd part when looking at media more broadly is that trump's loudest defenders are on the radio, which depends on black athletes who play for pro and college teams that bring in advertisers for hundreds of rw radio stations so they can survive.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
3. I agree. Why the hell was Hillary even dragged into this mess?
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 08:44 PM
Oct 2017

She had nothing to do with it. This just infuriates me! God, I am so sick of this shit!

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
4. When will HRC not be a major RW talking point?
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:09 PM
Oct 2017

In the absence of winning, they just turn to their next favorite thing: bashing Hillary. A hundred years from now, there will be RWers still talking about how HRC should be locked up. Of course, they will be irradiated mutant survivors of Dotard's war living in caves, but that won't be the major talking point.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
15. You mean like Warren?
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:51 PM
Oct 2017

They picked on her for a little while. But the continuing Hillary bashing must have something to do with the fact that HRC stood up to Dotard and they see it as him beating her down to where she belongs. Yes, I think that running against Dotard created a fertile field for misogynists to run wild in.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
16. Her opponent heated it up a bit, but it would have been there whoever she ran against.
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:55 PM
Oct 2017

Never underestimate the hatred that insecure men and the women who love them hold for powerful women.

And never underestimate the numbers of insecure men and the women who love them.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
17. We need to keep in mind that Dems are not free from the hate
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:59 PM
Oct 2017

I really believe the anti-Pelosi crap coming from some of our reps is very much the same thing. Remember, a couple months ago DU got caught up in the divisive rhetoric and there were some who bashed Pelosi.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
20. I think Warren is better suited to handle these attacks
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 10:18 PM
Oct 2017

Nothing against Hillary, I just think Warren has a sharper edge for that particular thing.

The next woman will be better prepared, due to the unforeseeable nastiness that Hillary had to endure. To think otherwise would be to believe Hillary went through it all for naught. I refuse to believe that.

delisen

(6,043 posts)
5. Scapegoating women for sleazy actions of men
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:11 PM
Oct 2017

is a propaganda technique.

to Republicans Hillary Clinton is a stand-in for all women.





sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
7. I missed "Silence of Trump/Bush/McConnell" on Ailes, O'Reilly. Come ON, CNN.
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:17 PM
Oct 2017

CNN: Infotainment first. Dollars first. If it's bad for the country, who cares? It's good for CNN.

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. CNN is droning on again right now about it, "she should have known"...yadda yadda....
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:32 PM
Oct 2017

Pure BS, they barely mentioned Roger Ailes, Bill O'Reilly, et. al.

 

coolsandy

(479 posts)
11. I wish all the women who have accused 45 in the past would step up now and force the country to face
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:38 PM
Oct 2017

the hypocrisy and double standard they impose upon women, Democrats, and especially HRC. Wasn't it enough to blame Hillary for Bill's bad behavior.

How is it that 45 can escape the fate of Weinstein, Cosby, and others?

barbtries

(28,789 posts)
12. it's off the hook
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:42 PM
Oct 2017

i don't get it. well, on second thought, you nailed it. what i don't get is the irrational continuing need to attack her on both sides. she just does not deserve it.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
14. Religious right termed HRC the embodimet of the 'Jezebel spirit'
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:46 PM
Oct 2017

Jonathan Cahn did it on several Jim Bakker shows you can watch on youtube. He claimed Bill is the embodiment of Jezebel's husband and Trump of the OT leader who saved Israel from the evil pair.

This stuff was preached (and is still being preached) over and over to millions of credulous Evangelicals.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. What is new.
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 10:09 PM
Oct 2017

Many of Trump's voters and the far left made her responsible for her husband cheating on her.

Bettie

(16,099 posts)
21. No woman anywhere, no man anywhere
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 10:54 PM
Oct 2017

is responsible for Harvey Weinstein's actions except Harvey Weinstein.

Period, end of story. He has made his own choices, he has chosen his own actions.

NO one else is responsible for that, only him.

Not Hillary Clinton, Not Barack Obama, just him.

This is one of those things that make me see red.

 

Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
25. Don't hate me for this about Bill Clinton
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 11:44 PM
Oct 2017

Bill Clinton was a dog, a disgrace, he was an adulterer, cheated on Hillary..... but I don't think he is the definition of sexual abuser or assaulter like O'Reilly, Ailes, Bill Cosby, Weinstein ..... he was a man that (like most men) who come on to women. Inappropriate, yes, but he was a "Romancer", not an assaulter. And ..... Hillary is not responsible for what her husband did!

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
30. Sexual overtures by one's boss in the workplace, by definition, creates a hostile work environment.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 02:20 AM
Oct 2017

It is a clear violation of workers' rights... such behavior should NEVER be tolerated!!

 

Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
27. Amen
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 01:46 AM
Oct 2017

Hillary had Mount Everest to climb to try to get over what her husband did. All of the Repubs that did worse themselves, Vitter, Trump, et al, men always get the default, rehabilitation card.

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