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Wed Sep 13, 2017, 12:58 AM

For US women, most dangerous ppl are not Muslims, immigrants, or refugees. It's their own husbands.

It was supposed to be a fun gathering.

On Sunday, 27-year-old Meredith Hight invited a group of friends over to her house in Plano, Texas, to watch football and grill. A few months earlier, she had filed for divorce from her husband, and she was looking forward to new beginnings.

“She was a cook, and a quite fine one, and she loved hosting friends and families,” her mother, Debbie Lane, told Dallas-based WFAA. “This was her first opportunity to do it after the divorce, and he didn’t take it well.” Lane said he killed her daughter when he opened fire on the party.

Plano police were called to the house around 8 p.m. local time after reports of gunshots. When they arrived, they found seven people fatally shot and two others injured. One person died later in the hospital. Hight’s estranged husband, Spencer Hight, 32, was killed by an officer at the scene, bringing the death toll to nine. All the victims were in their mid-20s to early 30s.

The Plano incident ranks as the deadliest mass shooting of the year, matched only by another domestic violence shooting that occurred over the Memorial Day weekend. Neither crime received sustained media attention, despite the death tolls.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/2-deadliest-mass-shootings-common-183556136.html

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Reply For US women, most dangerous ppl are not Muslims, immigrants, or refugees. It's their own husbands. (Original post)
CousinIT Sep 13 OP
Xipe Totec Sep 13 #1
Duppers Sep 13 #2
True_Blue Sep 13 #4
Warpy Sep 13 #6
CottonBear Sep 13 #8
Xipe Totec Sep 13 #16
DLevine Sep 13 #17
Xipe Totec Sep 13 #18
Lars39 Sep 13 #20
DLevine Sep 13 #21
Warpy Sep 13 #23
kcr Sep 13 #15
BainsBane Sep 13 #26
Squinch Sep 13 #28
we can do it Sep 13 #30
msongs Sep 13 #3
shenmue Sep 13 #5
Lyricalinklines Sep 13 #7
Willie Pep Sep 13 #9
ck4829 Sep 13 #10
ileus Sep 13 #11
DLevine Sep 13 #13
kcr Sep 13 #14
Weekend Warrior Sep 13 #12
CousinIT Sep 13 #22
SaschaHM Sep 13 #27
WhiskeyGrinder Sep 13 #19
Scurrilous Sep 13 #24
Kaleva Sep 13 #25
smirkymonkey Sep 13 #29

Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 01:07 AM

1. I hate this kind of conflation

So, yes, Muslims, immigrants, and refugees are not a threat. I get that. I agree.

But the other part, husbands are the most dangerous person to a woman, How did we get here?

Nine people died in this incident.

Was the shooter a polygamist married to nine people? I assume some of the victims were male, so a gay polygamist?

Assuming the more likely scenario that the shooter was married to only one of the victims, what can we say of the other eight victims regarding the most dangerous person in their lives?

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 01:19 AM

2. ?? What's not to understand?

The anger of the husband toward his ex-wife caused him to explode at all those who considered her a friend. They "sided" with her or that's the way he interrupted the situation.

Happens that men will also kill an ex-wife's family.

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 02:03 AM

6. Abusive men are 75% more likely to kill once a woman leaves

and they don't give a damn who else gets in the way, even killing their own children.

Here's another article for you take in. You might learn something about our lives: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/most-murders-of-american-women-involve-domestic-violence_us_5971fcf6e4b09e5f6cceba87

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Response to Warpy (Reply #6)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 03:41 AM

8. When I left my ex-husband, he threatened to kill me & my family.

Then, he immediately tried to do so by chasing me (I was driving away to escape) with his car and trying to crash into my car at speeds of over 60 mph.

After months of him stalking and terrorizing me, I was finally able to have him arrested and to take him to court and divorce him.

He'd verbally and physically abused me in the past but he went crazy with rage when I actually left.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #6)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 08:30 AM

16. This isn't about you

Or about your life, or about whether or not men are monsters.

It is about faulty logic and confirmation bias.

Nine people died at the hands of a deranged asshole, but the only victim you care about, the only one that draws your attention, was the spouse.

That's pretty messed up.

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #16)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 08:36 AM

17. Nine people died because a man saw a woman as his property

instead of as a free human being who had a right to live her own life.

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Response to DLevine (Reply #17)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 08:47 AM

18. That may very well be true, but that's not what the OP says

The OP says that that the greatest danger to a woman is her husband.

Only one of the people there was married to the gunman. The rest were not his wives, they still died, but not at the hands of their respective husbands.

If one were to judge based on this example, one could say there's an eight in nine chance that the person who will kill you is not your husband.

Domestic violence is a real problem.

Faulty logic does not help.

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #18)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 08:53 AM

20. The title of the article that you didn't read is,

"What The 2 Deadliest Mass Shootings This Year Have In Common".

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #18)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 08:55 AM

21. If a woman is murdered, more than 50% of the time it is at the hands of her husband

or boyfriend. As for the other victims in this case, they would be alive today if not for a man who wanted ultimate control over a woman he considered his possession, that is, to take her life.

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #16)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 02:40 PM

23. No, it's about what most women have faced at one time or another

starting with the first controlling asshole they dated in high school.

You might not realize it, but we all have to kiss a lot of frogs before we find a prince and there are a hell of a lot of frogs out there.

Read. If you won't listen to women, maybe you can read. I know you don't want to believe it, but there's a lot of misery out there behind those tidy suburban doors. The statistics are appalling. And sometimes men are the ones being abused.

And no, it's not about me. It's about friends, family, patients, colleagues---women.

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 07:49 AM

15. Okay. So, why could it possibly matter

that the shooter isn't married to all the victims?

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:53 PM

26. Women are far more likely to be killed by a husband or partner

than anyone else.

More than half of female homicide victims were killed in connection to intimate partner violence — and in 10 percent of those cases, violence shortly before the killing might have provided an opportunity for intervention.

That is according to a new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, published Thursday, that takes a close look at the homicides of women.



More than 55 percent of the deaths were related to partner violence, and the vast majority of those were carried out by a male partner.


http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/07/21/538518569/cdc-half-of-all-female-murder-victims-are-killed-by-intimate-partners

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 06:20 PM

28. It seems like it's very hard for you to hear that women are at greater danger from

their husbands and boyfriends than from anyone else.

It's a well documented fact, but I guess we shouldn't talk about it, at the risk of upsetting to you.

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 11:34 PM

30. It's not conflation, it's a fact.

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Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 01:34 AM

3. in the USA it is acceptable to label women as bit++++ and H++ only worth of

abuse. popular entertainment culture makes hundreds of millions for people doing so and kids buy it all

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Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 01:49 AM

5. ...

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Wed Sep 13, 2017, 02:18 AM

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Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 03:53 AM

9. Yeah most people are likely to be hurt or killed by somebody they know.

For women that is usually boyfriends or husbands. Domestic violence is so common that it does not get big headlines unless a celebrity is involved or it is a particularly odd case.

People seem to be attracted to news stories that are exotic hence terrorism getting so much coverage despite how rare it is and how unlikely Americans are to die from terrorism.

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Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 05:38 AM

10. Just another masculine honor killing. Nothing to see here.

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Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 06:05 AM

11. Time to ban marriage.

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Response to ileus (Reply #11)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 06:56 AM

13. Nah, time to recognize that domestic violence is a serious issue. nt

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Response to ileus (Reply #11)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 07:39 AM

14. Uh huh, yep.

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Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 06:45 AM

12. K&R

Some will act like they don't get it. That alone speaks volumes.

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Response to Weekend Warrior (Reply #12)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 09:09 AM

22. +1 n/t

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Response to Weekend Warrior (Reply #12)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:56 PM

27. There is always someone ready to go "All Lives Matter" on a thread about women. nt.

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Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 03:55 PM

24. K&R

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Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:42 PM

25. The biggest threat to a woman is a husband, boyfriend or male acquaintance with a gun

Interestingly, when a man decides to get a gun for the purpose of protecting a female loved one, he statistically becomes the biggest threat to her safety.

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Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 06:21 PM

29. K&R

Tragic and unnecessary. If domestic violence was taken seriously, a lot of these murders could be avoided. Many of these abusive men should never be allowed to legally own firearms.

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