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Mon Sep 11, 2017, 11:38 PM

Robert E Lee is part of our history

much like Benedict Arnold or Tokyo Rose.

Should they get statues?

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Reply Robert E Lee is part of our history (Original post)
Abu Pepe Sep 11 OP
forgotmylogin Sep 11 #1
Abu Pepe Sep 11 #2
TlalocW Sep 12 #3
Abu Pepe Sep 12 #4
demosincebirth Sep 12 #5
Abu Pepe Sep 12 #7
demosincebirth Sep 13 #11
A HERETIC I AM Sep 12 #6
Abu Pepe Sep 12 #8
A HERETIC I AM Sep 12 #9
Abu Pepe Sep 12 #10

Response to Abu Pepe (Original post)

Mon Sep 11, 2017, 11:47 PM

1. Anyone should make any statue they want.

However, such certain artworks would not be appropriate for display on public or government property. We'd like future generations to see we revered monuments of unity and courage and peace.

I mean, keep the Bronze cast of Charles Manson in your own gallery, not in a public park.

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Response to forgotmylogin (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 11, 2017, 11:52 PM

2. They don't get the difference between remembering

and honoring.

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Response to Abu Pepe (Original post)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 12:06 AM

3. I've been making the suggestion

To the people who keep talking about how it's part of hiiiiiistory that now we can put up real historically-accurate statues - some can even have people like Robert E. Lee. I see him on his knees handing his sword over to General Grant as he surrenders at Appomattox. Oh, sure, there's a little bit of artistic license there, but he did surrender, and we can make sure this historical fact is never forgotten by making a statue depicting it!

I've made this suggestion to a few people who hide behind the, "history card," as it were. They couldn't come up with a response to get around my more historically-accurate suggestion. Pissed them off.

TlalocW

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Response to TlalocW (Reply #3)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 12:27 AM

4. I've suggested statues of WT Sherman alongside the

Confederate ones. That gets blank stares too.

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Response to Abu Pepe (Original post)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 01:06 AM

5. He should have been tried for treason along with the other West Point grads

who commanded confederate troops

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Response to demosincebirth (Reply #5)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 01:36 AM

7. agreed

I assume they all swore oaths to the US Constitution.

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Response to Abu Pepe (Reply #7)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 01:55 AM

11. As officers and graduates of West Point you sure do.

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Response to Abu Pepe (Original post)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 01:21 AM

6. The only public statue of Benedict Arnold;

A boot. And it doesn't even mention him by name.

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Response to A HERETIC I AM (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 01:37 AM

8. Where is that?

Does he not have one in London?

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Response to Abu Pepe (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 01:43 AM

9. Saratoga National Historical Park, New York

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_Monument

According to the Wiki page on him, his home in London bears only a plaque;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_Arnold#Tributes

The larger point I am making is that this is the appropriate type of monument to a traitor. One that does not mention his name.,

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Response to A HERETIC I AM (Reply #9)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 01:45 AM

10. Wow. That is interesting. thanks nt

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