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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 04:03 PM Aug 2017

I Wonder If Texans Will Understand The Value Of Strong Efficient Federal Government?

Remember Texass wants to secede from the union. At last there is a faction that is desperate to secede. And many support small government you can drown in a bath tub.

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I Wonder If Texans Will Understand The Value Of Strong Efficient Federal Government? (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Aug 2017 OP
They will still be against it Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #1
The secession crap is being pushed by Russians, just like in Cali... bettyellen Aug 2017 #2
Would Not Be Surprised That They Are Pushing This Divide. TheMastersNemesis Aug 2017 #3
Some article last week traced a professional troll connected to a bot network- bettyellen Aug 2017 #5
Wrong. Plenty of actual Texans favor the idea Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #7
Wrong. Bots are pushing it doesn't mean some dumbasses don't agree, silly! bettyellen Aug 2017 #8
we are deluding ourselves if we think the problem is primarily "russian bots". Voltaire2 Aug 2017 #9
Cal- exit rose and imploded due to Russian influence, Brexit passed because of it..... bettyellen Aug 2017 #10
You're still wrong Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #16
I'm saying the bots are amplifying and elevating this bullshit debate- bettyellen Aug 2017 #17
I'm sure they are doing that but this sentiment precedes it and Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #18
They don't need them but they have them, not as bad as Cali, but they certainly do.... bettyellen Aug 2017 #19
Too many of them won't. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2017 #4
It just depends on what their rw talking heads tell them defacto7 Aug 2017 #6
Not all of us from Texas want to secede Blue_Roses Aug 2017 #11
this Texan angel823 Aug 2017 #12
Oh, For Fuck's sake. blogslut Aug 2017 #13
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Bradshaw3

(7,522 posts)
1. They will still be against it
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 04:11 PM
Aug 2017

Except for those federal programs that benefit them or that they need when they need it (like now).

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
2. The secession crap is being pushed by Russians, just like in Cali...
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 04:15 PM
Aug 2017

Read that the bots were working on that.

I hope they take a hard look at the numbers and fight against the wall.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
5. Some article last week traced a professional troll connected to a bot network-
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 04:22 PM
Aug 2017

They're in a strict 8AM-8PM schedule (Moscow time)
They were anti Ukraine years ago, pro Brexit, anti-Hillary, pro Cali secession and now pro-Trump and pro Texas secession. While anti-Islam bigotry and white nationalism remained a theme throughout the years. Kind of amazing, all the bases on person Tweeting memes could cover.

Bradshaw3

(7,522 posts)
7. Wrong. Plenty of actual Texans favor the idea
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 05:35 PM
Aug 2017

Three out of five drumpf supporters in a ore-election poll:
http://time.com/4455875/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-texas-secede-poll/

Texas Boys State where many future leaders get their start in politics:
http://www.chron.com/news/politics/texas/article/Texas-Boys-State-votes-to-secede-for-Union-11247209.php

A simple search produces other results showing people not bots like the idea.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
8. Wrong. Bots are pushing it doesn't mean some dumbasses don't agree, silly!
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 05:51 PM
Aug 2017

That's how bots work- they influence real people.

Same as they did against HRC, they amplify the campaign- making it look like an actual big grass roots thing and that helps increase support locally. Of course some Trump fans will buy it- they bought everything else the Russian bits have been selling. Just like they did with Brexit, etc etc.

Voltaire2

(13,033 posts)
9. we are deluding ourselves if we think the problem is primarily "russian bots".
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 06:12 PM
Aug 2017

Long before Putin had any plans, the majority of Republican Party supporters and almost all of their leaders, had walked off the deep end. The Russians amplified what was there to some extent, to what extent we will likely never know, but this is our own home grown nazi problem and pretending it is all the Russian's fault is not helping.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
10. Cal- exit rose and imploded due to Russian influence, Brexit passed because of it.....
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 06:42 PM
Aug 2017

I get that there are idiots out there who are easily influenced by FB and Twitter crap- but the sources of it are important. Unfortunately that crap also influences TV as well as print news coverage. To pretend it's not widespread is what's delusional. The crap is on linked In, it's been here at times too. It's insidious, and a great part of it is a planned assault.

Bradshaw3

(7,522 posts)
16. You're still wrong
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 10:53 PM
Aug 2017

These sentiments have been around before any bots were pushing this meme. You know how cause and effect work, right? I know why it's tempting for some to blame everything on Russian bots but these types of sentiments have been nurtured in places like Texas for many years and were amped up during the Obama administration. Yes the Russians are trying to attack our democracy, but tht is not what caused these sentiments and there is nothing silly about understanding that.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
17. I'm saying the bots are amplifying and elevating this bullshit debate-
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 10:57 PM
Aug 2017

Not that they invented it. That's what they do, try and fuck with the system. And they were MAJOR players in Cal exit on the Russian payroll, and the Brexit one so it's nothing new for them, either.

Bradshaw3

(7,522 posts)
18. I'm sure they are doing that but this sentiment precedes it and
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 11:06 PM
Aug 2017

is engrained in the Texas psyche. I was born there and lived there. They don't need bots to fuel the secession feeling - anti federal government, anti POC and anti liberal sentiments - have been around longer than bots.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
19. They don't need them but they have them, not as bad as Cali, but they certainly do....
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 11:20 PM
Aug 2017

Dividing and conquering the voters.

Blue_Roses

(12,894 posts)
11. Not all of us from Texas want to secede
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 07:26 PM
Aug 2017

You are painting with a broad brush. There are many progressives in Texas. Unfortunately, Texas has a lot of money in the hands of those who don't care about the little people.

Why always the negative posts?

angel823

(409 posts)
12. this Texan
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 07:36 PM
Aug 2017

Appreciates efficient Federal Government.

Houston supported Obama and Clinton in the last election, as did all major metropolitan areas.

Angel in Texasperated

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