Jury finds 7 wildlife refuge occupiers, including Ammon Bundy, not guilty...

[ozone82]

Anyway the Feds can appeal this, or that's it? This is nuts!

[link:http://katu.com/news/local/ammon-bundy-ryan-refuge-trial-verdict-malheur-wildlife-consensus-jury-federal-portland-oregon|

[shenmue]

1. Fuck these people

[L. Coyote]

11. Prosecutors to retry Bundy Ranch standoff defendants for 3rd time

Third time can be the charmer.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-investigations/2017/08/23/prosecutors-retry-bundy-ranch-standoff-defendants-third-time/594842001/

Federal prosecutors who didn't succeed in the Bundy Ranch standoff trial will retry and retry again.

The U.S. Attorney's Office in Las Vegas confirmed Wednesday it will go back to court for the third time in an attempt to convict two men accused of taking up arms against federal agents.

Less than 24 hours earlier, a jury had acquitted two standoff defendants and dismissed the most serious charges against two others. Now federal prosecutors say they will retry the men next month on outstanding weapons and assault charges.

The move pushes back the trials for 11 other defendants in the 2014 Bundy Ranch standoff, including Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and his sons Ammon and Ryan Bundy, who have spent 18 months in prison while awaiting their court date.

O. Scott Drexler and Eric Parker, both of Idaho, were released from prison Tuesday night after a jury acquitted them of conspiracy and extortion, which were the key elements of the government's case.

But they found out Wednesday they have been ordered back to court Sept. 25 to face the charges on which the jury deadlocked.

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[orleans]

19. i thought you couldn't be tried twice for the same crime...

i don't understand this

(and why the hell weren't they found guilty in the first go around? of course i'm not blaming *you* -- just venting and wondering)

[L. Coyote]

23. You can't be retried if a trial results in acquital. If it doesn't have a result you can start over

[Amishman]

25. They are only being retried on the lesser charges on which the jury was deadlocked twice

The conspiracy charges which were actual not guilty verdicts cannot be retried

[defacto7]

2. Jury's are a crap shoot it seems.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. No, the prosecution can't appeal an acquittal.

[Zoonart]

4. EFFING idiots.

This is why we're in the shit with Two Scoops in the white house....
A solid third of the country makes folk heroes of domestic terrorists.

[Baconator]

5. I wonder what happened with the prosecution...

[L. Coyote]

7. They ended up with a sympathizer on the jury. Political polarity at work, I bet.

This is why the so politicized what they were doing, to ensure that a jury could not agree to convict.

[cos dem]

6. This right here is why we can't have nice things.

[orleans]

20. +1 n/t

[heaven05]

8. Of course

they threaten the government, have the right skin color, free. Been POC, either dead or facing long, long prison terms....this has ALWAYS been justice in ameriKKKa. Now they can get back to their klan buddies and party while toasting charlottsville.

[L. Coyote]

9. You realize this is old news, from October 2016.

[UTUSN]

14. Let's emphasize this/preceding post.

[ozone82]

21. Did Not Catch That, Article Is Dated...

8/24/2017, but this happened last year. Sorry about that, and yes, I do need new glasses, someday I'll have the money for a new pair. I'm still pissed about this.

[bdjhawk]

10. I worry about the zealots taking over juries across the country

Just one on a jury trying to convict one of the RWNJs can hang a jury. If the federal jury requires unanimity, how can their not be even one to keep them from being found not guilty? On the other hand, I can imagine if you had a majority of a jury that were RW zealots, the "armed to the gills" supporters of the Bundy types could make normal jurors very nervous about going against them. These people have convinced themselves they are doing God's work and facts do not matter and they will do anything to achieve their objectives.

It will be interesting if some from the jury will speak publicly and very interesting if we ever find out about the jury selection process. I'm guessing there was a lot of lying going on by potential jurors who claimed they had no agenda. This is a case that seems so clear with all kinds of evidence and admission on the part of the accused that they did take over the federal buildings/property but "had a good reason" why they did. DISGUSTING!!!!

[Calista241]

13. They were acquitted and cannot be retried. They'll never face justice for crimes they committed.

This was more than just a single juror hanging a jury. I think the case was lacking, whether the judge only allowed certain evidence, or if the prosecution went crazy and overcharged, rather than just a zealot or two on the jury.

[marybourg]

17. And this was a Las Vegas jury.

Not a hotbed of anti-government zealots. So something was wrong with the case.

They are going to be retried, however, on the charges the jury deadlocked on.

[Shrike47]

18. No, this is from October 2016 in Oregon.

[Initech]

12. Ain't no justice.

[Petrushka]

15. That katu so-called "news" is old news. What's really going on?

Something to think about --->

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2017/07/29/noam-chomsky-discusses-how-trump-the-media-distract-us-from-whats-really-going-on/



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Edited to add:

Nevermind!

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[ProudLib72]

16. So if we occupy and have an armed standoff at the WH that goes on for over a month

do we automatically get off? Since dumbshit is still at Camp David, I see this being an option.

And, yes, I am being sarcastic but only half so.

[NurseJackie]

22. Jury nullification? (Seems to be a "thing".)

[Horse with no Name]

24. I live in a small corrupt town

The DA gives the county clerk the list of jurors he wants.
That's how it works here.