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ABC news: FBI knocked on Manafort's BEDROOM DOOR (Original Post) rainbow4321 Aug 2017 OP
I don't believe it! no_hypocrisy Aug 2017 #1
Homeland security and INS knocked on a friend's door. Ms. Toad Aug 2017 #16
I wonder if he pissed his PJ's? Quanta Aug 2017 #2
Wakey Wakey Eggs & Bakey! blogslut Aug 2017 #3
HA HA - thank you!!! bettyellen Aug 2017 #5
Love it! Shrike47 Aug 2017 #9
ROFL malaise Aug 2017 #13
Perfect!! Grassy Knoll Aug 2017 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Aug 2017 #28
That's awesome! How did you find that? Did you notice everyone waking is MALE? Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #37
Love this! montana_hazeleyes Aug 2017 #47
LOL bettyellen Aug 2017 #4
Speaking for myself, Mme. Defarge Aug 2017 #6
It's one of the reasons for the word "disconcerting." dchill Aug 2017 #17
Either he didn't hear them in the house or he did and he hid in bedroom. My bet is he hid. chowder66 Aug 2017 #7
I've never heard of a "no-knock" warrant. dchill Aug 2017 #18
It is dflprincess Aug 2017 #21
Thank you. Thank you very much. - (Elvis said it better.) dchill Aug 2017 #23
I heard his voice as I read that. dflprincess Aug 2017 #24
And now...DCHILL HAS LEFT THE BUILDING.... Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #42
... Alice11111 Aug 2017 #51
You see it in movies when they knock in drug dealer's doors MrPurple Aug 2017 #30
The guess is someone else opened it and they rushed in- not that it was NOT a no knock.... bettyellen Aug 2017 #26
Google shows he lives in a Condo high rise rainbow4321 Aug 2017 #33
ABC reported it as his home in Virginia. Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #44
I think what's happening is media equates "home" with house rainbow4321 Aug 2017 #48
+1. (Yeah, I found a ref. to a condo. He also owns some "houses." Very wealthy man.) nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #50
Could be his wife, a servant maybe? The guest Maddow had on said "no knock" is very rare and usually bettyellen Aug 2017 #58
Maybe he thought it was room service..... lindysalsagal Aug 2017 #8
At least they knocked. If it had been some poor folks they would have fired procon Aug 2017 #10
According to Roger Stone, they broke down both front and bedroom door! csziggy Aug 2017 #52
!!! Alice11111 Aug 2017 #53
He doesn't have a monitored alarm system? Billy Jingo Aug 2017 #11
His place there is a condo rainbow4321 Aug 2017 #22
I agree. Absolutely, he has a security system. Maybe the Alice11111 Aug 2017 #54
Or the "help" let them in. BannonsLiver Aug 2017 #61
probably. Alice11111 Aug 2017 #62
Important missing detail, Manafort testifed the day before. L. Coyote Aug 2017 #12
Something I read said the FBI got the warrant because... Beartracks Aug 2017 #15
Someone else moondust Aug 2017 #14
"Sorry for the coitus interruptus" dalton99a Aug 2017 #20
I'm surprised that it took 2 weeks to come out Renew Deal Aug 2017 #25
Wonder why the story leaked out now MrPurple Aug 2017 #31
Having worked hundreds of white collar crime investigations CanonRay Aug 2017 #27
+1 dalton99a Aug 2017 #32
That's a very interesting take. Barack_America Aug 2017 #35
Both. CanonRay Aug 2017 #40
Some TV "experts" moondust Aug 2017 #36
I thought I heard 5:00 a.m. or thereabouts. Which makes sense. Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #38
I heard midnight. CanonRay Aug 2017 #41
Give them back zentrum Aug 2017 #29
Why did this take so long to get out!? BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #34
We'll have to complain to our leak sources. They're sleepin' on the job! nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #39
Because Mueller is running a real investigation CanonRay Aug 2017 #43
Because orangecrush Aug 2017 #45
At first I thought it was Miller and Bannon until I saw Hitler's (their hero) face on the bucket. BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #46
... orangecrush Aug 2017 #49
No knock warrants were one of those anti hippie laws Warpy Aug 2017 #55
If it happened at his condo rainbow4321 Aug 2017 #56
How embarassing would it be if he... Xolodno Aug 2017 #57
Knock, knock... "Candygram!" nt longship Aug 2017 #59
This was a no knock warrant Gothmog Aug 2017 #60

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
16. Homeland security and INS knocked on a friend's door.
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 10:31 PM
Aug 2017

Ultimately they would have kicked in the door, but a roommate was awake.

As for my friend, he awakened to a half-dozen guns in his face.

Response to blogslut (Reply #3)

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
37. That's awesome! How did you find that? Did you notice everyone waking is MALE?
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 11:42 PM
Aug 2017

I guess they thought it too racey to show a girl waking up? Apparently only boys have to wakey wakey?

dchill

(38,484 posts)
17. It's one of the reasons for the word "disconcerting."
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 10:34 PM
Aug 2017

Or the German "unkomfortablemachen."

My spell check did NOT like that!

chowder66

(9,067 posts)
7. Either he didn't hear them in the house or he did and he hid in bedroom. My bet is he hid.
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 09:31 PM
Aug 2017

That would be why they knocked.

on edit: Just saw another post saying it may have been a 'no-knock' search warrant. Interesting.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
21. It is
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 10:42 PM
Aug 2017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-knock_warrant


In the United States, a no-knock warrant is a warrant issued by a judge that allows law enforcement officers to enter a property without immediate prior notification of the residents, such as by knocking or ringing a doorbell. In most cases, law enforcement will identify themselves just before they forcefully enter the property. It is issued under the belief that any evidence they hope to find can be destroyed during the time that police identify themselves and the time they secure the area, or in the event where there is a large perceived threat to officer safety during the execution of the warrant.


However, they are not without controversy, as the Wiki article explains.

rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
33. Google shows he lives in a Condo high rise
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 11:12 PM
Aug 2017

The FBI may have shown their warrant to security who then led them to his condo and let them in, maybe? I can't imagine those doing the raid gave security time to give a heads up call to Manafort.
Security there probably knew better than to leak the news about a resident.

The Oronoco Amenities

The 5-story building is staffed with a concierge, porter and 24-hour security in the swank two-level lobby.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
44. ABC reported it as his home in Virginia.
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 11:50 PM
Aug 2017
Federal authorities recently executed a search warrant at a home in Virginia belonging to former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, ABC News has learned. Sources told ABC News the search warrant, issued by the FBI, stems from the ongoing investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller into Russia's meddling in the 2016 presidential election and possible collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-executed-search-warrant-paul-manaforts-home-russia/story?id=49112676

rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
48. I think what's happening is media equates "home" with house
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 12:17 AM
Aug 2017

In this case, his "home" is a high rise condo in Alexandria, VA.

This link came across my FB feed a while back...it's a NYC blogger who found out that Manafort owned a home in her neighborhood. She found his name and his Alexandria, VA address in the paperwork, it lists his "apartment number" but if you Google the address it's the VA high rise condo.


http://pardonmeforasking.blogspot.com/2017/02/washington-lobbyist-and-trump-advisor.html


Coincidentally, I caught up with a local resident who was walking in the same direction. After exchanging a few pleasantries, the resident asked:
"Did you know that Paul Manafort owns a house on this block?"

(snip)

Of course I was intrigued. Following the information that I was given, I started looking at public records for the brownstone.
Here are the details:
In late 2012, 377 Union Street was sold to MC Brooklyn Holdings, LLC for $2,995,000.
By 2013, the NYC Department Of Buildings approved an application to turn the four story, two family building into a one family home at an estimated cost of $527,900.00.

The DoB application lists the owner of 377 Union Street as Paul Manafort. The telephone number on record is registered to Paul J Manafort Jr...

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
58. Could be his wife, a servant maybe? The guest Maddow had on said "no knock" is very rare and usually
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 01:15 AM
Aug 2017

Only if they are afraid the person has weapons or something. But, she also said before 6AM isnpretty rate too. Strange times!

lindysalsagal

(20,680 posts)
8. Maybe he thought it was room service.....
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 09:32 PM
Aug 2017

for a second and a half.

Wonder what breakfast will be like in prison.....

Lock HIm UP!!!

procon

(15,805 posts)
10. At least they knocked. If it had been some poor folks they would have fired
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 09:58 PM
Aug 2017

concussion grenades, smoke bombs and teargas through the windows at the same time they drove an armored vehicle through the front door.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
52. According to Roger Stone, they broke down both front and bedroom door!
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 12:32 AM
Aug 2017

Heard on a clip on MSNBC tonight - Stone did an interview with some other network.

Personally I think that is Stone's wet dream - to have "jack booted thugs" as he called the FBI agents break into his bedroom. What would follow would NOT be his idea, though.

rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
22. His place there is a condo
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 10:44 PM
Aug 2017

I saw a picture of his Virginia home and thought it looked like a building so I googled about his place and an article referred to his apartment there.

I imagine there must be some kind of security/door man, etc. FBI may have shown their warrant to who ever was in the lobby/at the door, got let into Manafort's apartment that way and then, boom...knocking on the bedroom door.

On edit: it's a condo high rise building.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
12. Important missing detail, Manafort testifed the day before.
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 10:16 PM
Aug 2017

Was the warrant the result of what he said or did not say?

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
15. Something I read said the FBI got the warrant because...
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 10:29 PM
Aug 2017

... they weren't confident that he would turn over everything they needed.

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moondust

(19,979 posts)
14. Someone else
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 10:27 PM
Aug 2017

may have opened the front door and the FBI agents rushed in "like a fast break," according to Jim Cavanaugh on Lawrence's show who went through the details of the entry process step by step.

Now I'm wondering if Drumpf started contacting Mueller, probably trying to butter him up, after this raid went down.

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
27. Having worked hundreds of white collar crime investigations
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 10:56 PM
Aug 2017

I can tell you it is almost unheard of to get a middle of the night search warrant. That tells me this is probably an espionage case.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
35. That's a very interesting take.
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 11:16 PM
Aug 2017

What makes you think that? Are middle of the night search warrants seldom requested, or just seldom granted?

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
40. Both.
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 11:45 PM
Aug 2017

They are usually for drug cases or violent crime. You have to show special circumstances usually not present in WC cases. I never worked espionage but I believe it would fall into this area.

moondust

(19,979 posts)
36. Some TV "experts"
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 11:22 PM
Aug 2017

have said the raid may have been at 6 a.m. which would fall within the normal time range rather than extraordinary.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
38. I thought I heard 5:00 a.m. or thereabouts. Which makes sense.
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 11:43 PM
Aug 2017

Early enough so that would be more likely he's home & doesn't see them coming.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
29. Give them back
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 11:02 PM
Aug 2017

...some of their own storm trooper mentality.

Hope this all works quickly and thoroughly. Clear the swamp!

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
43. Because Mueller is running a real investigation
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 11:49 PM
Aug 2017

and his people don't leak. It's not Benghazi bullshit.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
55. No knock warrants were one of those anti hippie laws
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 12:36 AM
Aug 2017

thinking with the element of surprise as they bashed in the front door, we wouldn't have time to flush our drugs.

I still hate them and want them declared unconstitutional. However, it's good seeing one of them used against a ruling class fascist who undoubtedly approved of them wholeheartedly.

rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
56. If it happened at his condo
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 12:46 AM
Aug 2017

I imagine he felt all snug and secure..that the law couldn't get access to him or his stuff.

I'm just guessing here but perhaps the security people at the high rise led the Feds to the condo door and let them in...once inside they woke sleeping beauty up.

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