General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsABC news: FBI knocked on Manafort's BEDROOM DOOR
Good MORNING!
http://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/fbi-executed-search-warrant-paul-manaforts-home-russia/story?id=49112676
According to a source familiar with the investigation, Manafort was awoken by a group of armed FBI agents knocking on his bedroom door as they executed the warrant on July 26.
no_hypocrisy
(46,088 posts)The FBI *knocked*? They didn't kick in the door like the non-white criminals?
Ms. Toad
(34,069 posts)Ultimately they would have kicked in the door, but a roommate was awake.
As for my friend, he awakened to a half-dozen guns in his face.
Quanta
(195 posts)blogslut
(38,000 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I'd pay for pics
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)Response to blogslut (Reply #3)
geek tragedy This message was self-deleted by its author.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I guess they thought it too racey to show a girl waking up? Apparently only boys have to wakey wakey?
montana_hazeleyes
(3,424 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Mme. Defarge
(8,028 posts)I hate it when that happens.
dchill
(38,484 posts)Or the German "unkomfortablemachen."
My spell check did NOT like that!
chowder66
(9,067 posts)That would be why they knocked.
on edit: Just saw another post saying it may have been a 'no-knock' search warrant. Interesting.
dchill
(38,484 posts)Is that a thing?
In the United States, a no-knock warrant is a warrant issued by a judge that allows law enforcement officers to enter a property without immediate prior notification of the residents, such as by knocking or ringing a doorbell. In most cases, law enforcement will identify themselves just before they forcefully enter the property. It is issued under the belief that any evidence they hope to find can be destroyed during the time that police identify themselves and the time they secure the area, or in the event where there is a large perceived threat to officer safety during the execution of the warrant.
However, they are not without controversy, as the Wiki article explains.
dchill
(38,484 posts)dflprincess
(28,075 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)MrPurple
(985 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)rainbow4321
(9,974 posts)The FBI may have shown their warrant to security who then led them to his condo and let them in, maybe? I can't imagine those doing the raid gave security time to give a heads up call to Manafort.
Security there probably knew better than to leak the news about a resident.
The Oronoco Amenities
The 5-story building is staffed with a concierge, porter and 24-hour security in the swank two-level lobby.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-executed-search-warrant-paul-manaforts-home-russia/story?id=49112676
rainbow4321
(9,974 posts)In this case, his "home" is a high rise condo in Alexandria, VA.
This link came across my FB feed a while back...it's a NYC blogger who found out that Manafort owned a home in her neighborhood. She found his name and his Alexandria, VA address in the paperwork, it lists his "apartment number" but if you Google the address it's the VA high rise condo.
http://pardonmeforasking.blogspot.com/2017/02/washington-lobbyist-and-trump-advisor.html
Coincidentally, I caught up with a local resident who was walking in the same direction. After exchanging a few pleasantries, the resident asked:
"Did you know that Paul Manafort owns a house on this block?"
(snip)
Of course I was intrigued. Following the information that I was given, I started looking at public records for the brownstone.
Here are the details:
In late 2012, 377 Union Street was sold to MC Brooklyn Holdings, LLC for $2,995,000.
By 2013, the NYC Department Of Buildings approved an application to turn the four story, two family building into a one family home at an estimated cost of $527,900.00.
The DoB application lists the owner of 377 Union Street as Paul Manafort. The telephone number on record is registered to Paul J Manafort Jr...
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Only if they are afraid the person has weapons or something. But, she also said before 6AM isnpretty rate too. Strange times!
lindysalsagal
(20,680 posts)for a second and a half.
Wonder what breakfast will be like in prison.....
Lock HIm UP!!!
procon
(15,805 posts)concussion grenades, smoke bombs and teargas through the windows at the same time they drove an armored vehicle through the front door.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)Heard on a clip on MSNBC tonight - Stone did an interview with some other network.
Personally I think that is Stone's wet dream - to have "jack booted thugs" as he called the FBI agents break into his bedroom. What would follow would NOT be his idea, though.
Billy Jingo
(77 posts)That sounds unlikely.
rainbow4321
(9,974 posts)I saw a picture of his Virginia home and thought it looked like a building so I googled about his place and an article referred to his apartment there.
I imagine there must be some kind of security/door man, etc. FBI may have shown their warrant to who ever was in the lobby/at the door, got let into Manafort's apartment that way and then, boom...knocking on the bedroom door.
On edit: it's a condo high rise building.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)FBI disabled it or some such.
BannonsLiver
(16,370 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Was the warrant the result of what he said or did not say?
Beartracks
(12,809 posts)... they weren't confident that he would turn over everything they needed.
==================
moondust
(19,979 posts)may have opened the front door and the FBI agents rushed in "like a fast break," according to Jim Cavanaugh on Lawrence's show who went through the details of the entry process step by step.
Now I'm wondering if Drumpf started contacting Mueller, probably trying to butter him up, after this raid went down.
dalton99a
(81,475 posts)Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)Usually secrets cannot be kept that long
MrPurple
(985 posts)CanonRay
(14,101 posts)I can tell you it is almost unheard of to get a middle of the night search warrant. That tells me this is probably an espionage case.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)What makes you think that? Are middle of the night search warrants seldom requested, or just seldom granted?
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)They are usually for drug cases or violent crime. You have to show special circumstances usually not present in WC cases. I never worked espionage but I believe it would fall into this area.
moondust
(19,979 posts)have said the raid may have been at 6 a.m. which would fall within the normal time range rather than extraordinary.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Early enough so that would be more likely he's home & doesn't see them coming.
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)...some of their own storm trooper mentality.
Hope this all works quickly and thoroughly. Clear the swamp!
BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)CanonRay
(14,101 posts)and his people don't leak. It's not Benghazi bullshit.
orangecrush
(19,546 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)orangecrush
(19,546 posts)Warpy
(111,255 posts)thinking with the element of surprise as they bashed in the front door, we wouldn't have time to flush our drugs.
I still hate them and want them declared unconstitutional. However, it's good seeing one of them used against a ruling class fascist who undoubtedly approved of them wholeheartedly.
rainbow4321
(9,974 posts)I imagine he felt all snug and secure..that the law couldn't get access to him or his stuff.
I'm just guessing here but perhaps the security people at the high rise led the Feds to the condo door and let them in...once inside they woke sleeping beauty up.
Xolodno
(6,390 posts)...sleeps in the nude.
or
...was doing the morning "whack off"