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pnwmom

(109,021 posts)
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 08:10 PM Aug 2017

Weird things happen with a total solar eclipse.

http://astromaven.blogspot.com/2017/06/weird-things-happen-with-total-solar_72.html?m=1

Thursday, June 22, 2017
Weird Things Happen with a Total Solar Eclipse

Everyone talks about how visually stunning it is when the darkened Moon fully covers the face of the Sun in a total solar eclipse. And indeed, it is! But there are other unusual, truly strange happenings that occur when the Moon passes in front of the Sun. If you aren’t prepared to look for them, some of these weird phenomena are so fleeting that you can miss them. Following are descriptions of a number of those novel occurrences to be looked for on August 21st.

Long before totality (when the Moon is only covering part of the Sun’s face), go to a nearby tree and look in the shade of the tree’s shadow. You will see hundreds of crescent images of the partially covered Sun all over the ground! In fact, this is a safe way to view all the partial phases of the eclipse without harming your eyes. Where do all these many images come from? The gaps between the tree’s leaves act like a pinhole camera by projecting the Sun’s image on the ground. Here is a photo that was shot of such a tree shadow during a previous solar eclipse:

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Weird things happen with a total solar eclipse. (Original Post) pnwmom Aug 2017 OP
Good article! CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2017 #1
Amazing stuff! Thanks! MoonRiver Aug 2017 #2
When I taught school I showed my students how to do this. BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #3
A simple ordinary kitchen colander will do the job, too Brother Buzz Aug 2017 #18
As well as your own thumb and forefinger, marybourg Aug 2017 #54
Awesome stuff thanks pnwmom lunasun Aug 2017 #4
My wife and I are driving from Vancouver WA HeartachesNhangovers Aug 2017 #5
Have fun! pnwmom Aug 2017 #6
We will be in Kansas City, a perfect place to see the eclipse! MoonRiver Aug 2017 #7
You should consider farther go north. ThoughtCriminal Aug 2017 #10
Also in Kansas City. Cracklin Charlie Aug 2017 #30
We are meeting our KC family MuseRider Aug 2017 #32
I'm in Liberty - 2:06 of totality at my house. So excited... cbdo2007 Aug 2017 #55
It's going to be a fantastic experience! MoonRiver Aug 2017 #56
During one partial eclipse, a coworker had a lace shawl ThoughtCriminal Aug 2017 #8
It doesn't become "dark as night", more like twilight. Other wise, interesting article uppityperson Aug 2017 #9
Yes, it is like more like a clear full moon night. roamer65 Aug 2017 #19
I was in Germany for the 1999 solar eclipse. It got eerily DARK in the countryside, and very WinkyDink Aug 2017 #33
1979 Vancouver, WA for me. It was impressive, but some light gets through. I'll not be that close uppityperson Aug 2017 #34
No, it does become as dark as night. As suggested, a moonlit night. muriel_volestrangler Aug 2017 #57
My response was from the perspective of one I was in. To me, it didn't seem dark as night uppityperson Aug 2017 #58
This Solar Eclipse Will Be a Very Powerful One for Me panfluteman Aug 2017 #11
Sorry, but astrology is mystical bunkum. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #20
The important thing is we criticize benign, inconsequential beliefs LanternWaste Aug 2017 #40
It's not being clever Lokilooney Aug 2017 #49
I'm going to be drunk. AngryAmish Aug 2017 #48
I was thinking Lokilooney Aug 2017 #50
February 26, 1979 central scrutinizer Aug 2017 #12
Total eclipses are said to be portend a difficult year ahead for whatever nation they appear over sandensea Aug 2017 #28
We're already MFM008 Aug 2017 #52
For the 1994 Eclipse Leith Aug 2017 #13
I have a 3 bedroom house SCantiGOP Aug 2017 #14
You're welcome. And have fun! pnwmom Aug 2017 #16
I've been waiting 38 years for this one. roamer65 Aug 2017 #15
I could shoot myself for not viewing the May 1984 eclipse LeftInTX Aug 2017 #22
If I make it to April 8, 2024...I will be there as well, my friend. roamer65 Aug 2017 #24
I was working in Green Bay during the 1979 eclipse. LeftInTX Aug 2017 #25
I've done the hole in a piece of paper trick. Ilsa Aug 2017 #17
Those eclipse glasses are really cool LeftInTX Aug 2017 #31
During the totality, stars real close to Sol may actually be behind it. roamer65 Aug 2017 #21
Whenever I hear eclipse this movie scene comes to mind Bladewire Aug 2017 #23
LOL. I just posted saying the same thing! Good movie. SPOILER ALERT. Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #27
I love that movie! n/t fleur-de-lisa Aug 2017 #36
I was planning a re-read of that starting next week! logosoco Aug 2017 #42
Awesome. Solar eclips always reminds me of that movie "Delores Claiborne" w/Kathy Bates. Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #26
We will be outside Columbia SC Justice Aug 2017 #29
I remember the crescent shadows drmeow Aug 2017 #35
Weird Things Happen with a Total Solar Eclipse Movie, too chaplain_M Aug 2017 #37
Hmmmm . . . . pnwmom Aug 2017 #38
Sorry. Solar eclipses happen at New Moon, not Full Moon. longship Aug 2017 #43
Great article. dalton99a Aug 2017 #39
I have been excited for this for over a year and now that we are two weeks away I am logosoco Aug 2017 #41
i'm mildly excited about the eclipse. barbtries Aug 2017 #44
The moon's shadow crossing the ground!!!! longship Aug 2017 #45
Our stores are sold out of glasses B2G Aug 2017 #46
Got some from B&H. Liberal In Texas Aug 2017 #53
I'm so psyched. This is happening on my birthday (a milestone birthday to boot), and I'll be in the Native Aug 2017 #47
For instance - DON'T buy plants .. LovesPNW Aug 2017 #51
Thanks pnwmom!! blaze Aug 2017 #59
Thanks for sharing, pnwmom! Interesting blog... countryjake Aug 2017 #60

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,759 posts)
1. Good article!
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 08:15 PM
Aug 2017

Most people are too busy watching the moon cover the sun to see these cool effects.

There's a lot going on during a very few minutes.

BigmanPigman

(51,648 posts)
3. When I taught school I showed my students how to do this.
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 08:20 PM
Aug 2017

The small amounts of light make little cresent moon shapes in all the leafy shadows. This occurs during partial eclipses too. I am so glad I kept my neon pink viewing glasses from our trip to the Space Theater.

marybourg

(12,646 posts)
54. As well as your own thumb and forefinger,
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 07:17 PM
Aug 2017

lined up so as to leave a small gap at the base of the thumb.

5. My wife and I are driving from Vancouver WA
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 08:30 PM
Aug 2017

about an hour south to Salem OR in the wee hours to try to avoid the normal morning traffic nightmare into Portland from WA state. Salem is well within the totality band. Plan is to park the car somewhere, have a long breakfast, then walk to a local park for the eclipse. Afterwards, we'll hang out in Salem until after dinner to avoid the normal afternoon/evening traffic nightmare going back north into WA from Portland. Originally, we were going to take Amtrak but by the time we agreed on Salem, the train was sold out. Hopefully it's a clear day.

I'll share this article with my wife.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
7. We will be in Kansas City, a perfect place to see the eclipse!
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 08:41 PM
Aug 2017

I think it will be an amazing experience!

ThoughtCriminal

(14,050 posts)
10. You should consider farther go north.
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 09:25 PM
Aug 2017

KC is on the southern edge of totality. Getting farther north and closer to the center line will double the duration.

http://xjubier.free.fr/en/site_pages/solar_eclipses/TSE_2017_GoogleMapFull.html?Lat=39.14284&Lng=-94.58130&Zoom=10&LC=1

On the other hand, traffic may be a serious problem.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
30. Also in Kansas City.
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 12:11 AM
Aug 2017

At this point, I am just hoping for a clear sky. Thick, heavy monsoon clouds make for terrible eclipse viewing.

MuseRider

(34,136 posts)
32. We are meeting our KC family
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 12:54 AM
Aug 2017

in Doniphan county for the total experience. Apparently Troy and Hiawatha have some music, food etc. and are going all out for it. I just hope we can make it there with all the people planning on being there. Total for 2:38. Should be fun. Plenty of country road around if it is too crowded.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
55. I'm in Liberty - 2:06 of totality at my house. So excited...
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 08:09 PM
Aug 2017

I asked for the day off work over a year ago.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,050 posts)
8. During one partial eclipse, a coworker had a lace shawl
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 09:18 PM
Aug 2017

We held it over the sidewalk and sure enough - hundreds of little crescents in a delightful pattern.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
33. I was in Germany for the 1999 solar eclipse. It got eerily DARK in the countryside, and very
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 01:05 AM
Aug 2017

swiftly!

uppityperson

(115,681 posts)
34. 1979 Vancouver, WA for me. It was impressive, but some light gets through. I'll not be that close
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 01:25 AM
Aug 2017

this time, unfortunately. Eclipses are cool.

uppityperson

(115,681 posts)
58. My response was from the perspective of one I was in. To me, it didn't seem dark as night
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 10:17 AM
Aug 2017

It was dark enough for birds to go silent for 5 min then start their wakeup calls again.

Others may feel different, Other eclipses may be doesn't, but for me, the total eclipse I was in, it wasn't dark as night.

panfluteman

(2,075 posts)
11. This Solar Eclipse Will Be a Very Powerful One for Me
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 09:46 PM
Aug 2017

Because it is conjunct my natal Moon and my South Lunar Node, or point of karma. There will probably be some big changes happening in my life, especially in my career and life path, because the eclipse degree will be in my tenth house, the house of career and life path. There could also be some dramatic changes in my love life, because the eclipse degree will be trining my natal Venus, the planet of love.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,064 posts)
20. Sorry, but astrology is mystical bunkum.
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 10:37 PM
Aug 2017

There are many things you can do that will have one thousand more times positive impact on you life than any gyrations of planets and stars.

Things such as studying French cuisine, learning to play guitar ( "guitars are for lovers" ), building a house for Habitat For Humanity, reading a classic novel, ....

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
40. The important thing is we criticize benign, inconsequential beliefs
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 03:20 PM
Aug 2017

The important thing is we criticize benign, inconsequential beliefs as a tool to fortify the patina of our own cleverness; though no doubt, the less-than-honest will rationalize it as a mere "suggestion of good will..."

Lokilooney

(322 posts)
49. It's not being clever
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 06:21 PM
Aug 2017

It's not being clever if something is testable, I also would not call a belief benign if it is relied upon for results. I would say though that it is genuine good will to suggest say for instance; you're not going to live long if you think you can pray the cancer away.

Lokilooney

(322 posts)
50. I was thinking
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 06:27 PM
Aug 2017

If someone has personal no alcohol until dark rule they have about a 15 min technicality to exploit!

central scrutinizer

(11,666 posts)
12. February 26, 1979
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 09:47 PM
Aug 2017

During the total eclipse here in Oregon, one of my milk goats went into labor. She delivered twin white males prior to totality, then a black female when it was darkest. But we were south of the band of totality - maybe 98% total. We named her Penumbra.

sandensea

(21,711 posts)
28. Total eclipses are said to be portend a difficult year ahead for whatever nation they appear over
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 10:56 PM
Aug 2017

And sure enough:





Leith

(7,814 posts)
13. For the 1994 Eclipse
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 10:07 PM
Aug 2017

I got a piece of plastic with a round circle in it (I don't remember exactly what it was, like a ruler with circles of various diameters cut out), put a blank white sheet of paper under it, and watched the eclipse on the paper. It worked remarkably well.

SCantiGOP

(13,875 posts)
14. I have a 3 bedroom house
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 10:23 PM
Aug 2017

I'll have 8 overnight guests and about 12 more coming in for the day.
We are near Lake Murray in central SC. The center line will pass about 5 miles from our house, so we will have the total eclipse for about 2 1/2 minutes. Nearby Columbia SC will have the longest total eclipse time of any metro area east of the Mississippi.

Thanks for this post, pnwmom.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
15. I've been waiting 38 years for this one.
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 10:25 PM
Aug 2017

Viewed the February 1979 eclipse from Michigan. It was 80 pct covered. Made myself a promise to see this one when Frank Reynolds said on TV the next total eclipse in the lower 48 wouldn't be until August 21, 2017.

I'm surprised I have made it this close.

LeftInTX

(25,712 posts)
22. I could shoot myself for not viewing the May 1984 eclipse
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 10:41 PM
Aug 2017

It was annular, but where I was it was 90 percent. I sat in a lunch room on the 3rd floor and watched the shadows. My coworkers were oblivious to the thing. I did step out on the balcony for about a minute.

This upcoming eclipse will be about 65%, where I live. Lowe's has a bunch of those viewing glasses. They are right next to the checkout.

We will be getting a 100% annular eclipse in October 2023, then in April 2024 we will be getting a total eclipse...right where I live!!!

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
24. If I make it to April 8, 2024...I will be there as well, my friend.
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 10:45 PM
Aug 2017

I will be somewhere in the totality path. Road trip!

LeftInTX

(25,712 posts)
25. I was working in Green Bay during the 1979 eclipse.
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 10:50 PM
Aug 2017

The supervisor escorted us outside and we did the pinhole thing. I think the sun was about 20 percent covered at the time. I worked at a paper mill and we were not allowed outside unsupervised, so that was our only opportunity.

Ilsa

(61,710 posts)
17. I've done the hole in a piece of paper trick.
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 10:29 PM
Aug 2017

Worked nicely to follow the progress of the eclipse.

LeftInTX

(25,712 posts)
31. Those eclipse glasses are really cool
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 12:30 AM
Aug 2017

Lowe's has then right next to the checkout. I bought some and tried them on. It was so eery to be able to look directly at the sun. With the glasses, everything was dark and the sun was on orange ball. We will only get around 65% coverage, but those glasses will enable me to see it.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
21. During the totality, stars real close to Sol may actually be behind it.
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 10:39 PM
Aug 2017

It's called "gravitational lensing" and helped confirm Einstein's theory of relativity.

The gravity of Sol actually bends the light.

 

Bladewire

(381 posts)
23. Whenever I hear eclipse this movie scene comes to mind
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 10:44 PM
Aug 2017

Dolores Claiborne with her husband Joe during the eclipse

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
27. LOL. I just posted saying the same thing! Good movie. SPOILER ALERT.
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 10:51 PM
Aug 2017

You shouldn't give it away, though, for those who haven't seen the movie!

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
42. I was planning a re-read of that starting next week!
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 04:11 PM
Aug 2017

My husbands name is Joe, but he is a good guy (and we don't have any abandoned wells around here anyway!)

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
26. Awesome. Solar eclips always reminds me of that movie "Delores Claiborne" w/Kathy Bates.
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 10:50 PM
Aug 2017

Good movie. Not a horror movie, like the typical Stephen King movie. More of a mystery. David Straithern was excellent in it.

chaplain_M

(48 posts)
37. Weird Things Happen with a Total Solar Eclipse Movie, too
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 03:06 PM
Aug 2017

1979's Jack Lemmon/Walter Matthau movie "Out to Sea" shows a full moon shining one night after a solar eclipse.

Think about that.

longship

(40,416 posts)
43. Sorry. Solar eclipses happen at New Moon, not Full Moon.
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 05:35 PM
Aug 2017

It's about half a month between New Moon and Full Moon, not one day.

Hollywood often isn't very good with science. In this case they sacrificed science for pleasing imagery.

Sad!



logosoco

(3,208 posts)
41. I have been excited for this for over a year and now that we are two weeks away I am
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 04:10 PM
Aug 2017

obsessed!

Family is coming down from Madison, WI. House will be full but I think we will have an amazing experience!

I have a white sheet to better see the shadows.

I have been going outside and doing an eclipse drill! Checking the position of the sun at the right time to figure the best place to sit. (So far I think it may be in the neighbors yard across the street! She said that is cool!)

We have the approved glasses but my grandsons and I are making box viewers as well. They are NOT going to school that day!!



We do not plan to take photos (I figure the experts will show theirs!), but I am going to have my old Flip video camera sitting to capture OUR reactions so we can look at it later!

I told my sister we may need a box of tissues because when I am watching eclipse videos on Youtube I am getting very teary eyed!

I know they are expecting major traffic, but I think it will be worth it! Everyone should get a chance to see totality if they can!

barbtries

(28,817 posts)
44. i'm mildly excited about the eclipse.
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 05:43 PM
Aug 2017

went and bought special glasses. we only get 93% eclipse where we are though, that'll be enough. thanks for sharing

longship

(40,416 posts)
45. The moon's shadow crossing the ground!!!!
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 05:49 PM
Aug 2017
If the land is flat for miles around your location or you are on a mountain top, you will be able to see the darkest part of the Moon’s shadow (called the umbra) racing across the ground towards you just before totality and away from you afterwards. Here is video of the approaching and leaving umbra as seen from an airplane:




This is supposedly the most awesome sight of a total solar eclipse. The edge of the moon's shadow crossing the ground at thousands of km/hr is one of those incredible fleeting sights that is not to be missed. Many solar eclipse pros live for that view.
 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
46. Our stores are sold out of glasses
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 06:07 PM
Aug 2017

So I ordered a 4 pack online today. They're like actual sunglasses so they should last. Still pretty cheap.

Native

(5,943 posts)
47. I'm so psyched. This is happening on my birthday (a milestone birthday to boot), and I'll be in the
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 06:10 PM
Aug 2017

path! Got relatives in Augusta, GA, and it is only an hour's drive from there to Greenwood, S.C.....just hoping the port-a-potty shortage doesn't create a problem. Interestingly, I was living on the east coast of Florida in 1970 when the last total eclipse hit us and got to see that. It lasted 3 full minutes - longer than this coming one is expected to last. Bookends of my life. Watch me drop dead on the way home from this one! LOL.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
60. Thanks for sharing, pnwmom! Interesting blog...
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 04:22 PM
Aug 2017

and I think I'll send that link on to my young great nephews, who have never experienced anything like this before.

I remember saving up cracker boxes in excited preparation for an eclipse, to make shadow boxes for everyone I knew when I was a kid. And just like a kid again, my excitement is steadily building. The wildfire smoke seems to be clearing out a bit today, so I'm hopeful it'll be a clear sun shine for that big day.

Here's a pertinent tune just for your thread:



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