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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat you may have missed from the Trump Australian call (hint, he really is a complete dumb ass)
This is a great catch from Digby, I highly recommend her blog here-
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/
In this post she points out that the transcripts show that Trump is not able to understand or comprehend that the Australian refugees were singled out simply because they came in on a boat, not because they were considered dangerous
This reminds me of when Trump first met with Merkel and it came out later that she had to explain to Trump that it was impossible for the US to have a trade deal with Germany, because Germany is part of the EU and it simply is not possible.
She had to explain it to him 11 times.. ELEVEN times!!
I cannot imagine the level of patience required to deal with an idiot like that
So here is Trump proving to the leader of Australia that he is dumber than a box of rocks....
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2017/08/cretinous-imbecility-on-world-stage.html
Australia has a policy of refusing to accept refugees who arrive by boat. The reason, as Turnbull patiently attempts to explain several times, is that it believes giving refuge to people who arrive by boat would encourage smuggling and create unsafe passage with a high risk of deaths at sea. But it had a large number of refugees who had arrived by sea, living in difficult conditions, whom Australia would not resettle (for fear of encouraging more boat trafficking) but whom it did not want to deport, either. The United States government agreed under President Obama to vet 1,250 of these refugees and accept as many of them as it deemed safe.
In the transcript, Trump is unable to absorb any of these facts. He calls the refugees prisoners, and repeatedly brings up the Cuban boatlift (in which Castro dumped criminals onto Florida). He is unable to absorb Turnbulls explanation that they are economic refugees, not from conflict zones, and that the United States has the ability to turn away any of them it deems dangerous.
Turnbull tries to explain to Trump that refugees have not been detained because they pose a danger to Australian society, but in order to deter ship-based smuggling:
Trump: Why havent you let them out? Why have you not let them into your society?
Turnbull: Okay, I will explain why. It is not because they are bad people. It is because in order to stop people smugglers, we had to deprive them of the product. So we said if you try to come to Australia by boat, even if we think you are the best person in the world, even if you are a Noble [sic] Prize winning genius, we will not let you in. Because the problem with the people
At this point, Trump fails to understand the policy altogether, and proceeds to congratulate Turnbull for what Trump mistakes to be a draconian policy of total exclusion:
Trump: That is a good idea. We should do that too. You are worse than I am Because you do not want to destroy your country. Look at what has happened in Germany. Look at what is happening in these countries.
Trump has completely failed to understand either that the refugees are not considered dangerous, or, again, that they are being held because of a categorical ban on ship-based refugee traffic.
He also fails to understand the number of refugees in the agreement:
Trump: I am the worlds greatest person that does not want to let people into the country. And now I am agreeing to take 2,000 people and I agree I can vet them, but that puts me in a bad position. It makes me look so bad and I have only been here a week.
Turnbull: With great respect, that is not right It is not 2,000.
more on the link, here-
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2017/08/cretinous-imbecility-on-world-stage.html
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syringis
(5,101 posts)For now, I'm fed up with the mexican one
It is crystal clear for me that it will be a great delusional and rambling piece...
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)....country in foreign policy and more importantly that they reveal that he is not only very ignorant and unable to connect and understand things, but that he is so incompetent and weak and whiny and narcissistic and self absorbed....imagine what all these foreign leaders realize and how they view this President...
Couple of things in the transcript that I wanted to point out and that stand out for me: his continual concern about how things look (his desperation) which is showing weakness and insecurity, but how absolutely bizarre that he mentions Putin and that the call with him was so good. That is just bizarre beyond belief - what Leader of a Nation mentions other interactions like that to another Nation? It's like a school girl telling another that another girl is so much cooler than that girl is. It's immature.
Finally - why does the media and also any one in the US Govt talking about "leaks" and wondering who in the White House released these transcripts of these conversations - think it's an inside job?
These conversations were between two parties....who is to say that the leaks didn't come from within the Mexican and the Australian Givernment to the Washington Post?
syringis
(5,101 posts)...say that, no, he does not represent you, americans. I have countlessy read, from 1st day he took office, how much you are embarrassed and that you are a laughing stock to rest of the world.
Speaking in my own name, but I'm not the only one, we just feel sorry for you, undergoing this masquerade
The only laughing stock is that ignorant buffon and his "classy" family...Especially his wife and daughter. Both seems to have problems to keep their clothes on, according to what I have seen on the net
My best thoughts to you and best wishes to see you soon get out of this mess.
nocalflea
(1,387 posts)How does settling these people in other countries send a message to them not to make the trip to Australia ?
Demit
(11,238 posts)nocalflea
(1,387 posts)"My friends nephew was sent to America ! " thinking plays a part.
yardwork
(61,748 posts)Unfortunately, it's what resonated with so many of his voters. They recognize his white supremacist racist views and like it.
Trump's election says a terrible thing about our country.
FakeNoose
(32,854 posts)I don't understand why Cheeto was even involved in this. Yes of course he has no clue how any of this works, and he's already fired everyone in the State Dept. who normally handled these issues.
So Cheeto needs to go back to his original plan of delegating everything to somebody else. He should stay out of government altogether and let other people handle all the tricky issues of governing. Because every time he tries to do something HE FUCKS IT UP!
Squinch
(51,075 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,773 posts)Put there by small-minded idiots who are made to feel inferior by intelligent people. Especially if they're black.