SMFH- The Huckster wants to eliminate the 17th Amendment

[DemocratSinceBirth]

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Time to repeal 17th Amendment. Founders had it right-Senators chosen by state legislatures. Will work for their states and respect 10th amid
12:32 AM - 28 Jul 2017

[Wounded Bear]

1. Obviously didn't notice all the Repub govs screaming to NOT pass the bill...

[Igel]

7. Don't go there.

The implication bites you on the butt.

There are 33 (R) governors. There are 32 states with (R)-controlled legislatures.

That would mean this wonderful idea many would support pretty much entails that they'd be fine with either 66 or 64 (R) Senators.


It's harder to take something away than it is to not be given something--it's harder psychologically and feels more abusive. What works with Medicaid expansion is the same as with every single tax break and benefit. It's the same with "white privilege" and it's why case law says that "Latino" doesn't include Brazilian--the result of the case was to keep affirmative action benefits restricted to those from Spanish-speaking countries. Wetlands issues are problematic because landowners have rights when they buy the property only to find that they're taken away later.

[patricia92243]

2. Republicans being sore losers - what else is new :( n/t

[MineralMan]

3. Pass that along to your Daughter, then.

Let her talk to the Trumpster. That ought to do it. Trump's a big winner, you know. A Tremendous deal-maker, buleev me!

[Renew Deal]

4. Huckabee is unamerican

[Igel]

8. I was taught that was a bad word.

This was in the '80s. "Un-American" is a dismissive insult that basically says Americans must all believe the same thing. It's just a question of who gets to dictate the norms.

In the '60s it was conservatives. Vietnam War protestors were un-American. Agreed? Probably not.

Those protesting Nixon were un-American. Agreed? Probably not.

Those who opposed Obama were un-American? Agreed? Probably.

Because nobody likes being told that they're wrong. America is inclusive; it includes a huge variety of opinions, beliefs, values, views. Sikhs are no more un-American than Socialists or John Birchers or any number of other non-violent groups. Prohibition was fully "American"; being pro-slavery was fully "American." So was being anti-Prohibition and Abolitionist. Mixing church and state was American, just not imposed from above: Abolitionism was largely founded in a religious belief system (as was, late in the game, justification for slavery).

The one who taught me this was a Jewish Russian naturalized immigrant, who said that when he heard "un-American" he thought "anti-Soviet" and "anti-Russian"--terms for which there were very good definitions. Except that the definitions changed depending on what was politically correct. The Party decides on a new policy or political course, suddenly everything has to be in accord with it, and the definition of "anti-sovetskii" would change accordingly.

From his view, those using "un-American" were quite Russian at heart and Soviet in thinking.

[Gabi Hayes]

16. You got the Obama part wrong

It was the loons who got orgasmic, bleating about how unAmurkin Obama was, expesh
because of his obviously Kenyan birff

[TheBlackAdder]

9. He surely doesn't act like a Christian either.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

5. You (Huckabee) know the rules: House, Senate, 3/4 of the states.

Isn't it? It's been a ... uh ... few years since I had to know that one.

[Initech]

6. Let me drink out of my mug of conservative tears for a minute here!

[oasis]

10. "Founders" were slave owners. Women could not vote.

They didn't have a lot of stuff "right".

[TeapotInATempest]

11. So someone on DU last week

Had a post up about this coming out of a recent ALEC meeting. Does anyone recall that?

I was hoping when I read it that it that it was untrue, but looks like this is where the Rs are going to try to go next in their quest to remove our rights to vote for our legislators.

[edhopper]

12. He is really upset about

the 13th, 14th and 15th.

[muriel_volestrangler]

13. So Huckabee thinks a 'state' is not the people living in that state

but a legislature, with the influence of money on elections which that entails. It's far easier to buy a legislature than an electorate, especially with the Citizens United ruling.

Elections are a bit like marrying your cousin - each level it's done at, the likelihood of defects increases. It's better to go back to the general population as much as you can.

[TeapotInATempest]

14. Citizens United is a huge problem and has to go

I rarely support amending the Constitution, but I think we have to in this case if we want to save our country.

[liberalnarb]

15. What a shit head

The 10th amendment affords the powers not given to the fed Government to the states AND/or to the people(What better way is there to give power to the people than to vote for their senators?)

[kcr]

17. Of course he does

He wants to undo one of the most important changes that fought corruption and gave more power to US citizens. It's a dream for the GOP.

[spanone]

18. typical republicans...lose a vote and want to change the rules...sore losers