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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 06:15 PM Jul 2012

Republicans Turn On Each Other: Team Romney Calls Them "Bedwetters"

Republicans Turn On Each Other: Team Romney Calls Them "Bedwetters"

by addikell

Baingate is starting to divide Republicans along lines seen during the primary. The Romney camp, much like McCain in 2008, says it has "a plan" and will stick by "the plan." Nobody knows what the plan is and apparently Romney isn't going to tell his fellow Republicans.

Bain barrage worries Republicans

We have a plan. We know what the plan is, and we’re going to implement the plan.”

For Republicans in his base who aren't convinced by the super-secret McCain strategy, Romney has a message for you:

All of this hew and cry, you know, from the bedwetters who get to sit on the sidelines, aren’t going to affect what we’re going to do and our plan.

Got that? He's not listening to you, so shut up GOP bedwetters!

The surest sign that information is damaging a campaign is when the party starts eating itself alive. The Romney camp isn't only on defense from newly revealed information by leading newspapers, but also now from Republicans in his own party.

“Mitt Romney had an opportunity to answer these questions during the primary,” said Rick Tyler, who ran the pro-Gingrich super PAC that spent millions attacking Romney on the Bain issue. “ He did not answer these questions and now they’re coming up again.”

Tyler warned that the newest Bain twist has the potential to inflict real harm if Romney doesn’t start providing answers.

“I saw Andrea Saul’s robotic response, which was the same as it’s always been,” Tyler said, referring to Romney’s press secretary. “That doesn’t comport with documents that have his name on it after 1999 that list him as CEO who was making money off of transactions. If he wasn’t making money from Bain, then his tax returns from the period in question would reveal that.”

Got that? Now Republicans are agreeing with Obama and the newspapers. They can't deny the truth of what's unfolding and they're eager to point out that Romney was the wrong choice as their candidate.

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/12/1109239/-Republicans-Turn-On-Each-Other-Romney-Calls-Them-Bedwetters
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Republicans Turn On Each Other: Team Romney Calls Them "Bedwetters" (Original Post) ProSense Jul 2012 OP
Sorry, Depends are not covered by the ACA. tanyev Jul 2012 #1
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #2
then I want to play poker with you rufus dog Jul 2012 #3
What makes you think they are sane? rateyes Jul 2012 #4
This from a group who lost both a Senate race and a previous malaise Jul 2012 #7
Better have a sharp eye then Aerows Jul 2012 #9
Bet on hubris, not sanity JHB Jul 2012 #13
compulsive liars do Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #17
+1 jberryhill Jul 2012 #28
Romney despises the Republicsn base... CoffeeCat Jul 2012 #34
Dang! I'm not prepared... Frustratedlady Jul 2012 #5
here you go Voice for Peace Jul 2012 #15
ROFL Amonester Jul 2012 #31
dittos wordpix Jul 2012 #35
Great one! Do you think that will be enough for this episode? Frustratedlady Jul 2012 #54
We're in luck, I just came back from the co-op Voice for Peace Jul 2012 #59
These are the adults? underseasurveyor Jul 2012 #6
Lovin'it. More staking out of turf in the expectation of a Romney loss. JBoy Jul 2012 #8
If Romney unravels it will affect all the races for Senate and House aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2012 #10
It's rather luscious Aerows Jul 2012 #12
"from the bedwetters who get to sit on the sidelines" sufrommich Jul 2012 #11
We have plenty of bedwetters on our side too bluestateguy Jul 2012 #14
It is not ok to make fun of bedwetters! yellowcanine Jul 2012 #58
Thanks to The Globe, et al, for putting their hand in the warm water... FailureToCommunicate Jul 2012 #16
Is Romney going to control the convention? ... CRH Jul 2012 #18
Romney gives the GoPuke party a good excuse to draft John Bohner, I think that's their plan. xtraxritical Jul 2012 #52
Hello, Ron Paul Canuckistanian Jul 2012 #19
Third party candidate. Blanks Jul 2012 #30
Too late Canuckistanian Jul 2012 #55
We need a write in Ron Paul campaign. Blanks Jul 2012 #56
I see the logic in it Canuckistanian Jul 2012 #62
they will back mittens till the bitter end madrchsod Jul 2012 #20
The solution for the GOP is obvious. zeemike Jul 2012 #21
I think Trump has a lot of skeletons in the closet, not to mention 3 wives wordpix Jul 2012 #36
The Plan agent46 Jul 2012 #22
I can't keep the evil in the CoffeeCat Jul 2012 #33
Here's how agent46 Jul 2012 #39
That sounds about right, policy-wise. hifiguy Jul 2012 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #23
Next Romney will take a pair of sizzors to "bedwetter" children. David Zephyr Jul 2012 #24
Baingate, Baingate, Baingate....boy its sound good shouting it.... Historic NY Jul 2012 #25
I have a feeling Mittens IS holding back. Wait til Aug Sep Oct (surprise) the all his PACS will southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #26
Not buying it, Obama is thouroughly vetted Spike89 Jul 2012 #65
Well you know the republicans like to take a little mountain and make it into a big mole hill southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #66
His Highness doesn't have to answer the questions of the Little People. freshwest Jul 2012 #27
are teabaggers now also bedwetters?? Angry Dragon Jul 2012 #29
Ok, I kept reading this... CoffeeCat Jul 2012 #32
yeah, we're 4 months away from Nov. & the secret plan is still secret wordpix Jul 2012 #38
I've got a pretty good handle on what The Plan is 0rganism Jul 2012 #37
I tend to agree with your assessment here. They're counting on the CU money to blast Obama. progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #41
I'm sure that people who suffer from bed-wetting will appreciate being used as a slur. n/t progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #42
"Hey will someone tell those assholes to shut up?" Initech Jul 2012 #43
lol. What possible answers? caseymoz Jul 2012 #44
I love this "whoops" moment for Republicans davidthegnome Jul 2012 #45
They didn't 'pick' anyone. randome Jul 2012 #61
They're going to have a messy Convention, I bet Sanity Claws Jul 2012 #46
When the scam collapses JackHughes Jul 2012 #47
Just WOW. Rmoney really knows how to solidify his "base" 99th_Monkey Jul 2012 #48
Right. Apparently the plan is to be jerk to EVERYONE. KurtNYC Jul 2012 #49
He is so used to being The Man On Top 99th_Monkey Jul 2012 #51
I think their "dark horse" draftee is going to be John Bohner. Watch out. xtraxritical Jul 2012 #53
Hmmm. 99th_Monkey Jul 2012 #64
Makes me want to dance lunatica Jul 2012 #50
Ok Romney just lost the bedwetter vote. And there are a lot of us. yellowcanine Jul 2012 #57
T...M...I. randome Jul 2012 #60
How so? I gave no details. It is a physical impairment dammit. yellowcanine Jul 2012 #63
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
2. Okay ...
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 06:26 PM
Jul 2012

Now, I'm starting to worry.

All of this hew and cry, you know, from the bedwetters who get to sit on the sidelines, aren’t going to affect what we’re going to do and our plan.


Sane folks don't make those kind of statements unless they KNOW the aces that flopped before the turn match the aces they are holding.

malaise

(266,950 posts)
7. This from a group who lost both a Senate race and a previous
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 06:47 PM
Jul 2012

attempt to be President.

Come on ReTHUGs eat one another live on TV.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
9. Better have a sharp eye then
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 06:52 PM
Jul 2012

And a person that makes certain to figure out what cards have dropped. I think that's handled at this point.

JHB

(37,106 posts)
13. Bet on hubris, not sanity
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 07:01 PM
Jul 2012

The model here is the hushing up of Bush's National Guard record and failing to fulfill his obligation (and other Bush things): attack the messenger as liberal propagandists and strong-arm any internal dissent into line. Keep a united front and brazen it out, and the press will eventually acquiesce in order to not look "partisan".

Except the documentation looks to be stronger here (nothing destroyed years previously), his own base is more divided and unsatisfied with him, and his opposition is more aggressive in leveraging the story into public opinion.

It's still early enough they're trying to make the "brazen it out" tactic work, but when it cracks it will crack big.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
34. Romney despises the Republicsn base...
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 12:23 AM
Jul 2012

Romney is a corporatist hack who only wants to sit in the White House and lick the boots of his corporate masters. He doesn't give a rip about the Republican base, which is practically Taliban-status on religious and social issues. Romney isn't even a Christian, as his base is. Romney could care less about all of the hard right social issues--which is why he implemented government healthcare in his state, why he's repeatedly stated that global warming is man made and why he's flip flopped on the gay marriage issue.

It's obvious that he detests the Repub base. They all voted for Bachman, Santorum and Cain in the primary. Mitt eventually won, but the base never liked him and Romney knows it.

The truth comes out know as he calls them names when they express legitimate concerns.

Mr Moneybags won't lower himself and answer to the base that he detests.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
5. Dang! I'm not prepared...
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 06:43 PM
Jul 2012

I must have used up my stash of popcorn during the Repug primaries. Now, when they start with their temper tantrums/infighting, I'm out. Dang!

I would suggest everyone invest in popcorn stock!

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
54. Great one! Do you think that will be enough for this episode?
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 06:47 PM
Jul 2012

Mitt has got to stretch this out until some crisis comes forward to draw our attention away from Bain.

Thanks for your generous offer!

JBoy

(8,021 posts)
8. Lovin'it. More staking out of turf in the expectation of a Romney loss.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 06:51 PM
Jul 2012

The post-mortem in the GOP will be whether Romney was sufficiently conservative or not, despite the obvious facts.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
10. If Romney unravels it will affect all the races for Senate and House
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 06:52 PM
Jul 2012

when discouraged Republican bedwetters stay home, and, best of all, it will have squandered millions and millions of dollars from Adelson, Koch, et al.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
12. It's rather luscious
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 06:57 PM
Jul 2012

And I am hoping for this to happen, and actually predicted it a few months ago, just because all the people in the South that are conservatives that I know are very leery of Romney. Now that there is a stink of true shit on him (not the obvious, but pervasive whiff of shit he's always had), I'm waiting to see how many start complaining again that he's been "foisted off" on them and they are being "forced to vote" for him since he's the Republican candidate.

All of the ones I know have looked constipated since March the minute you mention that Romney is the candidate. They mellowed out a bit, and looked to be loosening up before all of this came up. Now it's back to pinched looks and nothing more than defensive outbursts of "it's all made up by the media!"

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
14. We have plenty of bedwetters on our side too
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 07:06 PM
Jul 2012

As in, the anonymous "Democratic consultants" who seem to pop up in news stories every couple of weeks.

yellowcanine

(35,687 posts)
58. It is not ok to make fun of bedwetters!
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 08:09 PM
Jul 2012

I was one and I don't see that it is any fairer than making fun of someone with epilepsy.

CRH

(1,553 posts)
18. Is Romney going to control the convention? ...
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 07:54 PM
Jul 2012

Baingate and unreleased tax returns that open all kinds of questions. The field was weak in the primaries, now the movers and shakers above the politicians have to be wondering. I would not be surprised to see his donations start to peak now, then recede until the election. Romney is the epitome of what won't buy the vote of the middle class. Might sell them out, but will never convince them to give their vote.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
30. Third party candidate.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 10:36 PM
Jul 2012

Support him and don't even worry about Romney.

I mean don't actually vote for him.

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
55. Too late
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 06:51 PM
Jul 2012

Ron Paul is officially GOP. And he's poised to take over the convention and interrupt the coronation of Rmoney.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
56. We need a write in Ron Paul campaign.
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 07:10 PM
Jul 2012

You see it's perfect. You have to have a paper ballot in order to write in a candidate. If people write in Ron Paul; they're not voting for Romney.

It's a two prong attack. The Paul supporters believe he would win if he was a write in candidate, and there would be a paper trail if paper ballots were required.

Ron Paul wouldn't even come close, so there isn't any real danger. It would assure an Obama victory.

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
62. I see the logic in it
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 08:19 PM
Jul 2012

But it would have to be coordinated. And given the polarity in the country already, it won't happen.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
20. they will back mittens till the bitter end
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 08:19 PM
Jul 2012

right now they are trying to figure out how to do a better job of rigging the machines

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
21. The solution for the GOP is obvious.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 08:31 PM
Jul 2012

Turn to an other candidate at the conversion....can't be Ron Paul because he wanted to end the war and that would cost the billionaires billions....so may I suggest Donald Trump....he would be perfect for them....stupid so he could relate to his base...and he is a JOB CREATOR....just look at the Apprentice....plus conservatives like that wrap around hair.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
36. I think Trump has a lot of skeletons in the closet, not to mention 3 wives
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 12:33 AM
Jul 2012

I haven't heard anything from people who were displaced by or at least unhappy with his developments, but I'm guessing there were many.

agent46

(1,262 posts)
22. The Plan
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 08:33 PM
Jul 2012

I'm thinking Romney is the Neocon's new boy. As president, he'll be implementing policies determined by Cheney and gang.

The plan is simple: Steal the election.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
33. I can't keep the evil in the
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 12:10 AM
Jul 2012

Repub party straight. I know that Mitt is highly entrenched with the Kochs. That mskes him a spineless corporatist who will speed the slide into fascism. However, are the Kochs also neocons??

I identify the neocons as the warmongering fools such as Cheney, Rumsfeld, the Bush clan, Kissinger, and the rest of the nuts who want to take over the Middle East and continue their war profiteering.

Are the neocons and the corporatists separate groups that wimrj well together? Do their interests ever clash?

Sorry for all of the questions. It's a full-time job keeping their multiple layers if destruction and evil straight.

agent46

(1,262 posts)
39. Here's how
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 01:08 PM
Jul 2012

I break it down so far:

I think Romney is Cheney's stooge. The vetting of Condi for VP is a dead giveaway. Foreign Policy by the Neocons. Domestic policy by the Koch brothers. Welcome to the "new fascism" of the New American Century.

They're going to try and steal it.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
40. That sounds about right, policy-wise.
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 01:14 PM
Jul 2012

Though I don't believe it will be close enough to steal if people get off their asses and vote.

Response to ProSense (Original post)

David Zephyr

(22,785 posts)
24. Next Romney will take a pair of sizzors to "bedwetter" children.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 08:51 PM
Jul 2012

Mitt's a sadistic rich brat. Anyone thinking of trusting him with the Armed Forces is crazy.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
26. I have a feeling Mittens IS holding back. Wait til Aug Sep Oct (surprise) the all his PACS will
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 08:58 PM
Jul 2012

come out firing. Obama won't know what hit him.

Spike89

(1,569 posts)
65. Not buying it, Obama is thouroughly vetted
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 02:52 AM
Jul 2012

McCain wouldn't have held back. The rabid right wouldn't have held back for the past 4 years. Romney has nothing for a surprise. He has tons of campaign money, but nothing else.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
66. Well you know the republicans like to take a little mountain and make it into a big mole hill
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 09:12 AM
Jul 2012

by making things out of nothing. They are good at that. You know birther issue. Muslim issue. People are stupid enough to believe anything. After all the Bain facts are shown and some don't want to believe it.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
27. His Highness doesn't have to answer the questions of the Little People.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 09:07 PM
Jul 2012

But really, they already know the plan, this is window dressing on the part of the GOP.

They've sold their souls to the Koch brothers and taken the Nordquist pledge, it's Fascism Full Speed Ahead.

They don't intend to 'govern,' they are the brokers between the cattle and the now almost fully foreign interests they have been selling off every inch of American soil to.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
32. Ok, I kept reading this...
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 12:01 AM
Jul 2012

...article and I kept looking for some kind of sign that it wasn't 't from The Onion. "We have a plan and we're going to implement that plan."

Wow. Sounds Oniony.

Then he calls the Rep base, "bedwetters."

There it is again...more oniony flavor.

Turns out it's not from The Onion. It's just Mr. Absurd running his campaign into the ground.

0rganism

(23,773 posts)
37. I've got a pretty good handle on what The Plan is
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 12:34 AM
Jul 2012

The Plan boils down to 3 things:

1. Keep policy positions extremely vague up to the convention so the Democrats can't pin Rmoney down on anything before then. Travel around the country spouting bland pablum and badmouthing Obama, to build up name recognition linkage as "the alternative to that bad bad Barack Hussein Obama." The candidate will loudly announce his identity, announce that he can do a better job than Obama, and rub shoulders with the crowd. Maybe sing America the Beautiful if the audience is especially senile and/or deaf.

2. Lie as needed about any muckrakers or political enemies since the "fair and balanced" media will bend over backwards to give them the final word on any topic. Be selective about which media firms have access to the candidate.

3. Starting in September, blanket the airwaves with non-stop anti-Obama propaganda, 24/7. Between Rmoney's campaign funds and the SuperPAC money, they'll be able to outspend Obama's sources 3-1, and that's going to make a big difference.

I think it's actually a fairly solid plan, and based on what went down in Wisconsin, I don't see how anyone could think it can't possibly work. One thing that could really derail it is if Rmoney gets nailed with something highly improper, perhaps even illegal, before September. That's dangerously close to what's happening now, which is why they're a bit flustered -- they may have to come up with a plan B in the next 2 months, and they aren't prepared for that. Yet.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
41. I tend to agree with your assessment here. They're counting on the CU money to blast Obama.
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 01:19 PM
Jul 2012

I think that their "plan" is part of the recent "we decided on a theme!" announcement of "USA Comeback Team" or some such nonsense (again, he's pushing the whole Olympics things.) And I think the "PLAN" is who he chooses for VP, and it's just so revolutionary and awesome that everyone will vote for him instead of Obama (but we saw how that Plan worked for McCain.)

The one that that the billionaires cannot buy is this: LIKABILITY. They can attack President Obama in ads all day long, but the nice thing about being President is that your stuff is already out there, no shockers. But President Obama is likable (unless you're a rabid fool who would never vote for him anyway.) But to the republicans and conservative democrats and the independents, who are the swing voters, Romney has to be LIKABLE. He is just not likable at all. And hearing him speak is like watching a badly produced corporate training video. No personality, and truly.. comes off very untrustworthy. The Bain stuff is playing into the unease that voters already have with him...

That is the saving grace here. Romney, for all of the billions and dirty tricks, is just not someone that ANYONE would get excited about. And President Obama does have his secret weapon: Michelle. She is probably one of the top 3 most popular First Ladies, she's extremely likable.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
44. lol. What possible answers?
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 02:21 PM
Jul 2012

"Yes, I'm a liar, and have never been called on it. Therefore, I'm incompetent at it to boot.

"And I want to let the American people know, I am also a crook."

For Romney, there are no answers to the questions that would improve his chances to get into the White House, which stand now at almost zero.

He'd better just start taking the 5th because the indictment is coming soon.

My question is, this guy was governor in Massachusetts, he ran for president four years ago and was preparing another campaign since. Why didn't the press pick up and look at SEC documents before? This was nothing less than malpractice. In hindsight, it's working out well for Democrats, but this narcissistic, egotistical sleazebag should have never gotten this far.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
45. I love this "whoops" moment for Republicans
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 03:24 PM
Jul 2012

Should have picked a candidate with fewer financial skeletons in the closet. Romney's chances of defeating Obama are shrinking by the day. Terrible shame, isn't it?

JackHughes

(166 posts)
47. When the scam collapses
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 03:49 PM
Jul 2012

Mitt Romney is like a confidence man pulling a scam that just blown up and been exposed as a con.

Most scammers would just beat a hasty retreat and try to pull the scam in a new town. But pulling the "presidential scam" is just a bit too high profile for that. He's so busted -- and he's now so desperate -- that he can now only try the old "Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?" strategy.

Voters are dumb, but hopefully not that dumb.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
51. He is so used to being The Man On Top
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 04:33 PM
Jul 2012

who barks orders, who ruthlessly lies and manipulates, who
"loves to fire people", that he just cannot help himself ...
it's just who he IS. If this keeps up, I wouldn't be surprised
if the GOP doesn't trot out a dark horse, like Jeb, just to
avoid further embarrassment.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
64. Hmmm.
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 02:07 AM
Jul 2012

Somehow I find it exceedingly difficult to imagine The Orange Guy
as President.

But hey, pretty much anything can happen these daze.

yellowcanine

(35,687 posts)
57. Ok Romney just lost the bedwetter vote. And there are a lot of us.
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 08:07 PM
Jul 2012

It is a painful childhood memory. We don't need some smartass political candidate making light of our painful memories. Bedwetting has nothing to do with character. It is a physical impairment. Would he make fun of someone who had a childhood seizure disorder which they grew out of?

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