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by addikell
Baingate is starting to divide Republicans along lines seen during the primary. The Romney camp, much like McCain in 2008, says it has "a plan" and will stick by "the plan." Nobody knows what the plan is and apparently Romney isn't going to tell his fellow Republicans.
We have a plan. We know what the plan is, and were going to implement the plan.
For Republicans in his base who aren't convinced by the super-secret McCain strategy, Romney has a message for you:
Got that? He's not listening to you, so shut up GOP bedwetters!
The surest sign that information is damaging a campaign is when the party starts eating itself alive. The Romney camp isn't only on defense from newly revealed information by leading newspapers, but also now from Republicans in his own party.
Tyler warned that the newest Bain twist has the potential to inflict real harm if Romney doesnt start providing answers.
I saw Andrea Sauls robotic response, which was the same as its always been, Tyler said, referring to Romneys press secretary. That doesnt comport with documents that have his name on it after 1999 that list him as CEO who was making money off of transactions. If he wasnt making money from Bain, then his tax returns from the period in question would reveal that.
Got that? Now Republicans are agreeing with Obama and the newspapers. They can't deny the truth of what's unfolding and they're eager to point out that Romney was the wrong choice as their candidate.
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/12/1109239/-Republicans-Turn-On-Each-Other-Romney-Calls-Them-Bedwetters
tanyev
(42,572 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Now, I'm starting to worry.
Sane folks don't make those kind of statements unless they KNOW the aces that flopped before the turn match the aces they are holding.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)because they are holding a 2 and 7 off suit.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)malaise
(269,063 posts)attempt to be President.
Come on ReTHUGs eat one another live on TV.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)And a person that makes certain to figure out what cards have dropped. I think that's handled at this point.
JHB
(37,161 posts)The model here is the hushing up of Bush's National Guard record and failing to fulfill his obligation (and other Bush things): attack the messenger as liberal propagandists and strong-arm any internal dissent into line. Keep a united front and brazen it out, and the press will eventually acquiesce in order to not look "partisan".
Except the documentation looks to be stronger here (nothing destroyed years previously), his own base is more divided and unsatisfied with him, and his opposition is more aggressive in leveraging the story into public opinion.
It's still early enough they're trying to make the "brazen it out" tactic work, but when it cracks it will crack big.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Romney is a corporatist hack who only wants to sit in the White House and lick the boots of his corporate masters. He doesn't give a rip about the Republican base, which is practically Taliban-status on religious and social issues. Romney isn't even a Christian, as his base is. Romney could care less about all of the hard right social issues--which is why he implemented government healthcare in his state, why he's repeatedly stated that global warming is man made and why he's flip flopped on the gay marriage issue.
It's obvious that he detests the Repub base. They all voted for Bachman, Santorum and Cain in the primary. Mitt eventually won, but the base never liked him and Romney knows it.
The truth comes out know as he calls them names when they express legitimate concerns.
Mr Moneybags won't lower himself and answer to the base that he detests.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)I must have used up my stash of popcorn during the Repug primaries. Now, when they start with their temper tantrums/infighting, I'm out. Dang!
I would suggest everyone invest in popcorn stock!
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)Amonester
(11,541 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)Mitt has got to stretch this out until some crisis comes forward to draw our attention away from Bain.
Thanks for your generous offer!
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)this should last till tomorrow
underseasurveyor
(6,428 posts)JBoy
(8,021 posts)The post-mortem in the GOP will be whether Romney was sufficiently conservative or not, despite the obvious facts.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)when discouraged Republican bedwetters stay home, and, best of all, it will have squandered millions and millions of dollars from Adelson, Koch, et al.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)And I am hoping for this to happen, and actually predicted it a few months ago, just because all the people in the South that are conservatives that I know are very leery of Romney. Now that there is a stink of true shit on him (not the obvious, but pervasive whiff of shit he's always had), I'm waiting to see how many start complaining again that he's been "foisted off" on them and they are being "forced to vote" for him since he's the Republican candidate.
All of the ones I know have looked constipated since March the minute you mention that Romney is the candidate. They mellowed out a bit, and looked to be loosening up before all of this came up. Now it's back to pinched looks and nothing more than defensive outbursts of "it's all made up by the media!"
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)He sounds bitter.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)As in, the anonymous "Democratic consultants" who seem to pop up in news stories every couple of weeks.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)I was one and I don't see that it is any fairer than making fun of someone with epilepsy.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)CRH
(1,553 posts)Baingate and unreleased tax returns that open all kinds of questions. The field was weak in the primaries, now the movers and shakers above the politicians have to be wondering. I would not be surprised to see his donations start to peak now, then recede until the election. Romney is the epitome of what won't buy the vote of the middle class. Might sell them out, but will never convince them to give their vote.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)Maybe we misjudged you.....
Blanks
(4,835 posts)Support him and don't even worry about Romney.
I mean don't actually vote for him.
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)Ron Paul is officially GOP. And he's poised to take over the convention and interrupt the coronation of Rmoney.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)You see it's perfect. You have to have a paper ballot in order to write in a candidate. If people write in Ron Paul; they're not voting for Romney.
It's a two prong attack. The Paul supporters believe he would win if he was a write in candidate, and there would be a paper trail if paper ballots were required.
Ron Paul wouldn't even come close, so there isn't any real danger. It would assure an Obama victory.
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)But it would have to be coordinated. And given the polarity in the country already, it won't happen.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)right now they are trying to figure out how to do a better job of rigging the machines
zeemike
(18,998 posts)Turn to an other candidate at the conversion....can't be Ron Paul because he wanted to end the war and that would cost the billionaires billions....so may I suggest Donald Trump....he would be perfect for them....stupid so he could relate to his base...and he is a JOB CREATOR....just look at the Apprentice....plus conservatives like that wrap around hair.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)I haven't heard anything from people who were displaced by or at least unhappy with his developments, but I'm guessing there were many.
agent46
(1,262 posts)I'm thinking Romney is the Neocon's new boy. As president, he'll be implementing policies determined by Cheney and gang.
The plan is simple: Steal the election.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Repub party straight. I know that Mitt is highly entrenched with the Kochs. That mskes him a spineless corporatist who will speed the slide into fascism. However, are the Kochs also neocons??
I identify the neocons as the warmongering fools such as Cheney, Rumsfeld, the Bush clan, Kissinger, and the rest of the nuts who want to take over the Middle East and continue their war profiteering.
Are the neocons and the corporatists separate groups that wimrj well together? Do their interests ever clash?
Sorry for all of the questions. It's a full-time job keeping their multiple layers if destruction and evil straight.
agent46
(1,262 posts)I break it down so far:
I think Romney is Cheney's stooge. The vetting of Condi for VP is a dead giveaway. Foreign Policy by the Neocons. Domestic policy by the Koch brothers. Welcome to the "new fascism" of the New American Century.
They're going to try and steal it.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Though I don't believe it will be close enough to steal if people get off their asses and vote.
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David Zephyr
(22,785 posts)Mitt's a sadistic rich brat. Anyone thinking of trusting him with the Armed Forces is crazy.
Historic NY
(37,451 posts)southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)come out firing. Obama won't know what hit him.
Spike89
(1,569 posts)McCain wouldn't have held back. The rabid right wouldn't have held back for the past 4 years. Romney has nothing for a surprise. He has tons of campaign money, but nothing else.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)by making things out of nothing. They are good at that. You know birther issue. Muslim issue. People are stupid enough to believe anything. After all the Bain facts are shown and some don't want to believe it.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)But really, they already know the plan, this is window dressing on the part of the GOP.
They've sold their souls to the Koch brothers and taken the Nordquist pledge, it's Fascism Full Speed Ahead.
They don't intend to 'govern,' they are the brokers between the cattle and the now almost fully foreign interests they have been selling off every inch of American soil to.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)...article and I kept looking for some kind of sign that it wasn't 't from The Onion. "We have a plan and we're going to implement that plan."
Wow. Sounds Oniony.
Then he calls the Rep base, "bedwetters."
There it is again...more oniony flavor.
Turns out it's not from The Onion. It's just Mr. Absurd running his campaign into the ground.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)What's with that, Mittens?
0rganism
(23,957 posts)The Plan boils down to 3 things:
1. Keep policy positions extremely vague up to the convention so the Democrats can't pin Rmoney down on anything before then. Travel around the country spouting bland pablum and badmouthing Obama, to build up name recognition linkage as "the alternative to that bad bad Barack Hussein Obama." The candidate will loudly announce his identity, announce that he can do a better job than Obama, and rub shoulders with the crowd. Maybe sing America the Beautiful if the audience is especially senile and/or deaf.
2. Lie as needed about any muckrakers or political enemies since the "fair and balanced" media will bend over backwards to give them the final word on any topic. Be selective about which media firms have access to the candidate.
3. Starting in September, blanket the airwaves with non-stop anti-Obama propaganda, 24/7. Between Rmoney's campaign funds and the SuperPAC money, they'll be able to outspend Obama's sources 3-1, and that's going to make a big difference.
I think it's actually a fairly solid plan, and based on what went down in Wisconsin, I don't see how anyone could think it can't possibly work. One thing that could really derail it is if Rmoney gets nailed with something highly improper, perhaps even illegal, before September. That's dangerously close to what's happening now, which is why they're a bit flustered -- they may have to come up with a plan B in the next 2 months, and they aren't prepared for that. Yet.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)I think that their "plan" is part of the recent "we decided on a theme!" announcement of "USA Comeback Team" or some such nonsense (again, he's pushing the whole Olympics things.) And I think the "PLAN" is who he chooses for VP, and it's just so revolutionary and awesome that everyone will vote for him instead of Obama (but we saw how that Plan worked for McCain.)
The one that that the billionaires cannot buy is this: LIKABILITY. They can attack President Obama in ads all day long, but the nice thing about being President is that your stuff is already out there, no shockers. But President Obama is likable (unless you're a rabid fool who would never vote for him anyway.) But to the republicans and conservative democrats and the independents, who are the swing voters, Romney has to be LIKABLE. He is just not likable at all. And hearing him speak is like watching a badly produced corporate training video. No personality, and truly.. comes off very untrustworthy. The Bain stuff is playing into the unease that voters already have with him...
That is the saving grace here. Romney, for all of the billions and dirty tricks, is just not someone that ANYONE would get excited about. And President Obama does have his secret weapon: Michelle. She is probably one of the top 3 most popular First Ladies, she's extremely likable.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)Initech
(100,081 posts)"Hey shut up you assholes!!"
caseymoz
(5,763 posts)"Yes, I'm a liar, and have never been called on it. Therefore, I'm incompetent at it to boot.
"And I want to let the American people know, I am also a crook."
For Romney, there are no answers to the questions that would improve his chances to get into the White House, which stand now at almost zero.
He'd better just start taking the 5th because the indictment is coming soon.
My question is, this guy was governor in Massachusetts, he ran for president four years ago and was preparing another campaign since. Why didn't the press pick up and look at SEC documents before? This was nothing less than malpractice. In hindsight, it's working out well for Democrats, but this narcissistic, egotistical sleazebag should have never gotten this far.
davidthegnome
(2,983 posts)Should have picked a candidate with fewer financial skeletons in the closet. Romney's chances of defeating Obama are shrinking by the day. Terrible shame, isn't it?
randome
(34,845 posts)Romney is just the scum that rose to the top.
Sanity Claws
(21,849 posts)JackHughes
(166 posts)Mitt Romney is like a confidence man pulling a scam that just blown up and been exposed as a con.
Most scammers would just beat a hasty retreat and try to pull the scam in a new town. But pulling the "presidential scam" is just a bit too high profile for that. He's so busted -- and he's now so desperate -- that he can now only try the old "Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?" strategy.
Voters are dumb, but hopefully not that dumb.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)NOT.
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)who barks orders, who ruthlessly lies and manipulates, who
"loves to fire people", that he just cannot help himself ...
it's just who he IS. If this keeps up, I wouldn't be surprised
if the GOP doesn't trot out a dark horse, like Jeb, just to
avoid further embarrassment.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Somehow I find it exceedingly difficult to imagine The Orange Guy
as President.
But hey, pretty much anything can happen these daze.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)on their graves
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)It is a painful childhood memory. We don't need some smartass political candidate making light of our painful memories. Bedwetting has nothing to do with character. It is a physical impairment. Would he make fun of someone who had a childhood seizure disorder which they grew out of?
randome
(34,845 posts)yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Not funny.