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Kaleva

(36,295 posts)
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 01:56 PM Jul 2017

I'm not worried if the vote to proceed passes

Admendments will be made and one that I am pretty sure will get enough votes will be to keep the Medicaid expansion. All Dems will vote for that along with enough Repubs. This would make the bill toxic for most House Republicans and thats assuming the final Senate version gets passed by that body.

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I'm not worried if the vote to proceed passes (Original Post) Kaleva Jul 2017 OP
And then they go into confrence edhopper Jul 2017 #1
Yeah because they will get the koch bros their massive tax cut workinclasszero Jul 2017 #2
Despite weeks of effort, they haven't been able to pass anything yet Kaleva Jul 2017 #4
They will pass a bill edhopper Jul 2017 #5
BINGO!!! tonyt53 Jul 2017 #7
I think it's inevitable and the only way to win back the 2018 congress. lindysalsagal Jul 2017 #12
The voters edhopper Jul 2017 #19
I'm worried. FM123 Jul 2017 #3
Unfortunately, "Let's not worry" has become the start of something really bad ck4829 Jul 2017 #6
Exactly workinclasszero Jul 2017 #8
I dont worry about things totally out of my control. Kaleva Jul 2017 #10
GOP contingency plan: 1. Don't get old. 2. Don't get sick. 3. Die in the street. We don't care. lindysalsagal Jul 2017 #15
Expect and prepare for the worst - then you can be pleasently suprised if it doesn't happen. haele Jul 2017 #16
I'm worried for Skidmore Jul 2017 #9
I'm scared, too. hamsterjill Jul 2017 #25
+1000 Freethinker65 Jul 2017 #26
I loudly disagree SHRED Jul 2017 #11
That would be best but we have to plan in case it doesn't Kaleva Jul 2017 #14
Do not work with these radical fascists. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #13
Agreed SHRED Jul 2017 #17
I hope it doesn't loyalsister Jul 2017 #18
I'm sorry, I don't mean to nitpick.... moose65 Jul 2017 #20
You are right. I'll change it. Kaleva Jul 2017 #21
Just like people said don't worry about trump, he'll never win the nomination NightWatcher Jul 2017 #22
I'm not sure, but I do think this is about john McCain and GOP Theatre. lostnfound Jul 2017 #23
I'm worried and if the clause in the bill is there maryellen99 Jul 2017 #24
Kaleva saidsimplesimon Jul 2017 #27
There's a differance to resisting and living in constant fear or worry Kaleva Jul 2017 #28
Fear and worry? saidsimplesimon Jul 2017 #29
This is literally me a year ago: Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #30
Trump won the nomination easily Kaleva Jul 2017 #36
Like I said, assume nothing Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #37
Many people here are assuming that ACAwill be repealed. Kaleva Jul 2017 #38
Well, today certainly wasn't a step in the right direction Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #39
Ok Kaleva Jul 2017 #40
Well that leaves the rest of us on ACA fucked! flamingdem Jul 2017 #31
Has the repeal passed? Kaleva Jul 2017 #32
This is too close for comfort flamingdem Jul 2017 #33
It was wishful thinking that those Senators supposedly counted on would vote no on this. Kaleva Jul 2017 #35
A big FUCK YOU to ANY Republican who wants to take my ACA insurance away & dump millions off theirs Sunlei Jul 2017 #34

Kaleva

(36,295 posts)
4. Despite weeks of effort, they haven't been able to pass anything yet
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 02:03 PM
Jul 2017

Keep Medicaid expansion and all Dems will stil vote against the final bill along wih the more conservative Repubs.

edhopper

(33,575 posts)
5. They will pass a bill
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 02:05 PM
Jul 2017

one way or another.

They will destroy healthcare in this country.

Then they will pass a massive tax cut for the Rich.

Don't expect otherwise.

lindysalsagal

(20,679 posts)
12. I think it's inevitable and the only way to win back the 2018 congress.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 02:14 PM
Jul 2017

And people will die from it, and that's the cost of ignorance.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
3. I'm worried.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 02:02 PM
Jul 2017

Its been grip & grin since Trumpy took office.
I get my hopes up for awhile, then some bizarre thing happens that pulls the rug out from under us. Yet, I keep my fingers crossed....

ck4829

(35,069 posts)
6. Unfortunately, "Let's not worry" has become the start of something really bad
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 02:06 PM
Jul 2017

Let's not worry, Trump won't get the nomination.
Let's not worry, Trump won't get in office.
Let's not worry, Trump will drop the crazy act once he gets in office.

I like the optimism, but we need to start looking at contingency plans.

Kaleva

(36,295 posts)
10. I dont worry about things totally out of my control.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 02:10 PM
Jul 2017

We fight the fight and if we lose, we adapt to the new reality.

haele

(12,650 posts)
16. Expect and prepare for the worst - then you can be pleasently suprised if it doesn't happen.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 02:18 PM
Jul 2017

That's my motto in life. Why my stepdaughter has me identified as "StressBall" in her phone.

I'm never surprised that most people are motivated by their own interests and emotions, and will not consider larger consequences when indulging their personal wants or proclivities.

Most Trumpeteers in the US would happily cheer the casual disappearance or disenfranchisement of 200 million people in this country, without understanding that their necks are also on the chopping block, and they're next when they become inconvenient or unprofitable. Or maybe, they won't care, so long as they drag everyone else down with them.

Haele

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
9. I'm worried for
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 02:10 PM
Jul 2017

several family members and myself who all fall into demographics targeted to be hit by this. I'm scared.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
25. I'm scared, too.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 03:08 PM
Jul 2017

I fall into that demographic. Yes, there will be amendments, etc., but those of us in the 54-64 age category who are not eligible for Medicaid, etc. are still going to be the ones who get screwed the most.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
18. I hope it doesn't
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 02:25 PM
Jul 2017

And, I'm worried about the possibility of a full repeal. But, I'm trying to maintain hope and keep in mind that this government is nothing like any of us have seen. There are plenty of unforeseen possibilities and surprises that could transpire. Even if it moves forward, there is no certainty of what happens next. We could be surprised. The sky is not falling (yet?) Doomsday predictions are not going to change the outcomes. But, advocacy may.

moose65

(3,166 posts)
20. I'm sorry, I don't mean to nitpick....
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 02:48 PM
Jul 2017

But it's the MediCAID expansion, not Medicare (I *wish* Medicare was being expanded)!

lostnfound

(16,177 posts)
23. I'm not sure, but I do think this is about john McCain and GOP Theatre.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 03:01 PM
Jul 2017

A chance to distract, pretend to satisfy the base, and trump gets on in a few minutes to congratulate himself and claim victory.

maryellen99

(3,788 posts)
24. I'm worried and if the clause in the bill is there
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 03:03 PM
Jul 2017

That employers can drop employees for pre existing conditions, my husband and I will be dropped like hot potatoes. He has had cancer in the past year(removed with surgery and FSGS(genetic kidney disease).

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
30. This is literally me a year ago:
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 03:24 PM
Jul 2017
"Oh, I'm not really worried if Trump wins the nomination... He's just a joke of an anti-candidate and he'll get fully exposed for what he is in the national race!"

Assume nothing

Kaleva

(36,295 posts)
36. Trump won the nomination easily
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 04:03 PM
Jul 2017

The motion to proceed required Pence to be the tiebreaker. Based on recent past, I dare say it's going to be very, very hard for the Senate Repubs to get anything passed.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
37. Like I said, assume nothing
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 04:10 PM
Jul 2017

And don't underestimate how dirty McConnell is willing to get, and how brain dead and under-informed the American electorate is...

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
39. Well, today certainly wasn't a step in the right direction
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 04:25 PM
Jul 2017

so you'll cut us some slack on the anger and pessimism, maybe?

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
31. Well that leaves the rest of us on ACA fucked!
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 03:29 PM
Jul 2017

Have you seen what they want to charge low income seniors?

Half their income!!

Get a clue

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
33. This is too close for comfort
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 03:38 PM
Jul 2017

The senators we counted on caved.

I am not optimistic because somehow they'll get their taxcuts for wealthy donors. That's the point of this exercise.

Kaleva

(36,295 posts)
35. It was wishful thinking that those Senators supposedly counted on would vote no on this.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 03:46 PM
Jul 2017

Other then Collins, none of the others had indicated they were going to vote no.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
34. A big FUCK YOU to ANY Republican who wants to take my ACA insurance away & dump millions off theirs
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 03:44 PM
Jul 2017

fuck you murderers!

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