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riversedge

(70,204 posts)
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 04:27 AM Jul 2017

Rachel Maddow Just Busted The [Grassley] Senate Republican Plan To Save Trump From The Russia Scan

I heard this tonight and my heart sank. Several weeks ago when this Grassley and Feinstein Senate Judiciary Comm was set up I was initially elated. But then I read a short sentence or two from Grassley and I went DRATS!!

I posted about it but honestly do not recall why I was upset about the specific of what Grassley had said at the time but I knew his agenda was not good, as it was aimed at proving the Russian documents were crap. Anyway--here it is--Grassley is going full speed at saving Trump (and trying to prove the Democrats are the evil).

I did a quick search and did not find anything about this except for Rachel (politico has an article but nothing Rachel talks about is in it.


Also, The Hill has a story but did not address Rachel's concerns. It is here:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-panel-subpoenas-co-founder-of-firm-tied-to-controversial-trump-dossier/ar-AAozy64




Rachel Maddow Just Busted The [Grassley] Senate Republican Plan To Save Trump From The Russia Scandal



http://www.politicususa.com/2017/07/21/rachel-maddow-busted-senate-republican-plan-save-trump-russia-scandal.html

By Jason Easley on Fri, Jul 21st, 2017 at 9:59 pm

Rachel Maddow blew up the Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman's scheme to save Donald Trump with conspiracy filled hearing on Wednesday.


Maddow said:



This thing that is about to happen on Wednesday that just got scheduled tonight. This is the thing that I have been saying was coming. This is the thing I’ve been saying was coming from Congressional Republicans and Republicans who want to defend Donald Trump. Sen. Grassley has sent the subpoena tonight to head of Fusion GPS. He has canceled the testimony from Don Jr. and Paul Manafort and instead of hearing from them next week on the collusion issue, the Senate instead, will play host at a big open televised hearing to the big Republican pushback theory that they have been gearing up with, gearing up for on conservative media for a couple of weeks now.

This is the big push back in which they will claim that there is a Russian scandal, but it’s not a Trump/Russia scandal. It’s the Democrats, and the dossier on Trump, that’s the real Russia scandal. That’s from Russia, and the scandal is about Hillary Clinton and the Democrats. We have known this was coming. Now, as of tonight, we know it is arriving on Wednesday morning in the Senate, and the first subpoena has just gone out.


The Senate Judiciary Committee is the home base for the Republican defense of Trump on the Russia scandal in the Senate. People should have known that Grassley was going to pull a bait and switch...........................

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Rachel Maddow Just Busted The [Grassley] Senate Republican Plan To Save Trump From The Russia Scan (Original Post) riversedge Jul 2017 OP
That makes sense.....was trying to figure out Gabi Hayes Jul 2017 #1
All the Scamamooches in the world aren't gonna pull Gabi Hayes Jul 2017 #2
If true atreides1 Jul 2017 #3
I don't think she had any say in that Gabi Hayes Jul 2017 #4
If Mueller exposes all the collusion information couldn't Brassley Maraya1969 Jul 2017 #49
No. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #8
How quickly we throw our own under the bus with absolutely NO information. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #37
In light of what Rachel said, I would like to hear from Feinstein. OnDoutside Jul 2017 #5
The bots are coming out in full force. tirebiter Jul 2017 #6
Porgy Gabi Hayes Jul 2017 #7
AAK! Tirebiter! annabanana Jul 2017 #19
"Hmm, Grube Cakes, heavy on the 30 weight ,Mom" bahrbearian Jul 2017 #22
Groat cakes Gabi Hayes Jul 2017 #44
I can recite the whole LP from start to finish. Mister Ed Jul 2017 #26
let yer freak flag fly, my friend!. . . .n/t annabanana Jul 2017 #32
" I'm high all right, but not on false drugs- I'm high on the real thing; HAB911 Jul 2017 #24
OMG, you just brought me back to when I was 16 mitch96 Jul 2017 #27
Oh yeah HAB911 Jul 2017 #30
I think this is pretty risky on Grassley's part if his plan is to make Don look good. Vinca Jul 2017 #9
Seems this was expected from the Judiciary committee. Hortensis Jul 2017 #10
Comey chose to speak in front of Senate intelligence committee rather Akamai Jul 2017 #11
What show, pls? I have em all taped, but Gabi Hayes Jul 2017 #15
I'm sorry, anywhere from Chris Hayes to Last Word. Hortensis Jul 2017 #25
Glen Simpson, FusionGPS founder says he octoberlib Jul 2017 #12
Why does one plead the 5th when they do not even know the questions? Not Ruth Jul 2017 #33
I don't understand where Rachel is getting octoberlib Jul 2017 #34
Charles "The Snake" in the Grassley The Wizard Jul 2017 #13
What has been obfuscated here is this BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #14
So in Repub parlance it's absolutely Gabi Hayes Jul 2017 #16
OMG BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #17
He's stupid enough Gabi Hayes Jul 2017 #18
Grassley well known as dullest tool in washington sharedvalues Jul 2017 #23
WTF ?!?!? YCHDT Jul 2017 #21
Well then! By all means, annabanana Jul 2017 #20
What we're calling "The Steele Dossier" might have been anti-Trump oppo FakeNoose Jul 2017 #28
As if they are going to bring up Jeb Bush's oppo research on Trump, which McCain gave to FBI. L. Coyote Jul 2017 #41
Holy perestroika, batman! Gabi Hayes Jul 2017 #45
Subpoenas R US L. Coyote Jul 2017 #46
Could be ....they scrolled a lot on tube Gabi Hayes Jul 2017 #47
IMO... The goal of the now obvious Trumpanzees on the Senate Judiciary Comm. is to... Hugin Jul 2017 #29
Grassley's Goal is to claim that Democrats got info on Trump from the "Russian Govt" emulatorloo Jul 2017 #35
I agree with you in part... or there's always the third course they're taking of... Hugin Jul 2017 #36
Search "Steele dossier" on Twitter to see what they are up to, lots of fake "news" unfit for L. Coyote Jul 2017 #42
Yes if the scheduled meeting goes through Egnever Jul 2017 #48
I posted a similar point last night. Its infuriating. BSdetect Jul 2017 #31
I knew Grassley was not about getting info from Jr and Manaford. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #38
Grassley AFRT workinclasszero Jul 2017 #39
So, Trump might still be in the WH on Wed? L. Coyote Jul 2017 #40
grassley was talking tough last week...guess he woke up with a horse head in his bed spanone Jul 2017 #43
 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
1. That makes sense.....was trying to figure out
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 04:36 AM
Jul 2017

Why the fusion guy was gonna take the 5th, and why they caved about the public testimony

TRAITORS!!!

Too bad, fuckers!

Yer in too deep already

The truth WILL out!

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
2. All the Scamamooches in the world aren't gonna pull
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 04:39 AM
Jul 2017

Your treasonous asses out of the fire

Unless, of course, you already have the machines and registration scamming wired and ready for 2018

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
4. I don't think she had any say in that
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 04:56 AM
Jul 2017

Ranking members have no power, pretty sure

If she signed on to that, words fail

Maraya1969

(22,479 posts)
49. If Mueller exposes all the collusion information couldn't Brassley
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 09:39 PM
Jul 2017

be charged with obstruction of justice too? That is exactly what he is doing.

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
5. In light of what Rachel said, I would like to hear from Feinstein.
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 05:29 AM
Jul 2017

I expected stuff like this from Grassley.

tirebiter

(2,536 posts)
6. The bots are coming out in full force.
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 05:57 AM
Jul 2017

Putin has them ready at command and Grassley is quite ready and willing to engage in collusion.

HAB911

(8,890 posts)
24. " I'm high all right, but not on false drugs- I'm high on the real thing;
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 08:40 AM
Jul 2017

powerful gasoline, a clean windshield, and a shoeshine!" - Pastor Rod Flash

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
27. OMG, you just brought me back to when I was 16
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 09:24 AM
Jul 2017

and totally out of my mind...... but not that far out to remember that quote!!
m

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
9. I think this is pretty risky on Grassley's part if his plan is to make Don look good.
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 06:41 AM
Jul 2017

What's to stop someone from asking the Fusion person about the peepee video?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Seems this was expected from the Judiciary committee.
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 06:47 AM
Jul 2017

And from the Republican Party. Just last night a group on MSNBC said it's far too late and large to be stopped, though. Likely they hope to drag it out while they finally manage to use their power to accomplish some goals, like getting taxation and regulation off the backs of the wealthy.

I have such a bad memory but this is reminding me that last month someone actually gave documents needed for the JC investigation to the Senate Intelligence Committee instead because the JD couldn't be trusted. Comey? Pointed out by Rachel, I believe.



 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
11. Comey chose to speak in front of Senate intelligence committee rather
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 06:57 AM
Jul 2017

Last edited Sat Jul 22, 2017, 09:32 AM - Edit history (1)

than Senate judiciary committee because -- according to Rachel -- less grandstanding by Republicans.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
15. What show, pls? I have em all taped, but
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 07:48 AM
Jul 2017

Can't take watching all of it

I would like to see that, tho

Thx!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. I'm sorry, anywhere from Chris Hayes to Last Word.
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 08:56 AM
Jul 2017

I was busy, then trying to listen while not falling asleep. Think it was earlier. But, though these are experienced people, it was opinion. I took heart from the statement but wouldn't bother looking for it.

My own opinion ( ) is that the White House and the worst of the congressional caucuses are stuffed with so many dysfunctional, profoundly dishonest and amoral fools who badly disrespect and underestimate the power and virtues of our republic that they can't help failing. We're watching rather spectacular evidence of just that.

Not coincidentally, after almost two decades of not buying Altemeyer's The Authoritarians because he published it free on line as a public service, I finally ordered and received a bound copy. There are other types of dangerous right wingers, of course, including authoritarian leaders, but reading it these days causes far more political names and faces to pop to mind than it did long ago. Scary, but if their potential for evil is potentially virtually unlimited, so is their capacity for competence.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
12. Glen Simpson, FusionGPS founder says he
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 07:10 AM
Jul 2017

won't testify at hearing because he's going to be out of the country and if he did testify he'd plead the fifth.




octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
34. I don't understand where Rachel is getting
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 10:10 AM
Jul 2017

her information. CNN just said that both Managort and Trump Jr. are testifying . In a closed session , though.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
13. Charles "The Snake" in the Grassley
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 07:30 AM
Jul 2017

is a partisan Republican liar. He's one of the creeps who peddled the " Obama death panel" crap regarding the Affordable Care Act. Unlike others of his ilk he tells the truth about 10% of the time as opposed to lying all the time. He and his Party are anti American bums that should be purged from the landscape.

BumRushDaShow

(128,906 posts)
14. What has been obfuscated here is this
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 07:38 AM
Jul 2017
REUTERS

January 12, 2017 / 12:32 AM / 6 months ago

Former MI6 spy known to U.S. agencies is author of reports on Trump in Russia

<...>

Steele was initially hired by FusionGPS, a Washington-based political research firm, to investigate Trump on behalf of unidentified Republicans who wanted to stop Trump's bid for the party's nomination. The BBC said on Wednesday, "He (Steele) was compiling this report on behalf of initially Trump's opponent Jeb Bush," referring to one of Trump's 16 opponents in the 2016 Republican primary.

The BBC subsequently said on Thursday that its correspondent misspoke.

Bush's spokeswoman, Kristy Campbell, denied any involvement between Bush and Steele.
Slideshow (4 Images)

"It is absolutely not true that Governor Bush had any knowledge or involvement with this gentleman and his allegations," Bush spokeswoman Kristy Campbell told Reuters by phone. "It’s nothing we’ve ever seen before."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-steele-idUSKBN14W0HN


BBC article. I still think the "Never Trump" and "Stop Trump" conservatives were very much associated with that dossier and once Drumpf got the nomination, frustration set in from Steele when no one seemed to want the info anymore.
 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
16. So in Repub parlance it's absolutely
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 07:54 AM
Jul 2017

Last edited Sat Jul 22, 2017, 12:40 PM - Edit history (1)

TRUE

How do these liars keep their stories straight?

I know DT doesn't even try, but most of them still put up the pretense

Except her

N

BumRushDaShow

(128,906 posts)
17. OMG
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 07:59 AM
Jul 2017

Sir Patrick!

In this case, it could be that Grassley is trying to confirm who ordered this (and we know who it was but they want to try to link Democrats to it as well, while ignoring the "Stop Trump" and "Never Trump" PACs that originally funded it). If he delves too deeply, he might open up a hornet's nest that he wished he hadn't messed with.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
28. What we're calling "The Steele Dossier" might have been anti-Trump oppo
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 09:26 AM
Jul 2017

...but the report was written by the guy who's a true British spy.

Steele sifted the info from of his previously written reports concerning what happened in Moscow the past couple of years before Trump was a candidate. Nobody tracked his activities before Cheeto became a candidate, but they were significant.

The British government had all of this info ALREADY! So do the Germans and at least one or 2 other spy agencies. We're the last to hear any of this about the Trump and Putin collusion. Names, dates and places are given in the dossier. However they've been blacked out of the version that we get to see.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
41. As if they are going to bring up Jeb Bush's oppo research on Trump, which McCain gave to FBI.
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 12:01 PM
Jul 2017

And what, say Bush and McCain work for the Clintons?

Didn't the new Sessions leak reinforce the Steele dossier? Someone might be reacting too quickly for not-briefed-in Grassley if this imagined scenario has substance.n Which I doubt.







L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
46. Subpoenas R US
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 01:17 PM
Jul 2017

Isn't this the text of Mueller's "request" to the White House preserve all messages related to Trump Jr.'s meeting?

Hugin

(33,135 posts)
29. IMO... The goal of the now obvious Trumpanzees on the Senate Judiciary Comm. is to...
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 09:28 AM
Jul 2017

discredit the Steele Dossier (whether it's true or not) and then proclaim loudly.

LOOK! LOOK! SEE HERE! THERE WAS NOTHING THERE! IT IS ALL FAKE! in an attempt to discredit the whole Collusion investigations everywhere and to justify stopping any further investigation.

However, the Steele Dossier wasn't the only investigation... The US and several Foreign ICs had their own intelligence which indicated there was collusion and they were only comparing what appeared in their own intelligence with what was in the Dossier looking for verification of the Dossier. Not as the Republicans would have you believe the other way around.

None of this matters, anyway. They've already got a damn good case of Obstruction-of-Justice on Don Quistupidy among other high crimes. Plenty to impeach and convict him of if someone would just, DO IT!

Meanwhile, Twitterstiltskin is already TODAY undermining Grassley's efforts with his idiotic tweets.

emulatorloo

(44,120 posts)
35. Grassley's Goal is to claim that Democrats got info on Trump from the "Russian Govt"
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 10:42 AM
Jul 2017

While Ignoring the fact that Steele's Russian sources were Russian whistleblowers exposing the Russian Govt.

Also ignoring the fact that never Trumpers were who got the ball rolling on the Steele Dossier. Possibly associates of Jeb!

As I see it, "Dems colluded w Russia!1!" is the headline Grassley's going for. Will fool Trump's base, but will probably backfire on him bigly.



Hugin

(33,135 posts)
36. I agree with you in part... or there's always the third course they're taking of...
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 11:03 AM
Jul 2017

Shotgunning everything they think they've got out there in desperation hoping something, anything hits it's mark.
Muddying-the-waters in the process.

Desperation seems to be how the Republicans have been operating lately on constant clean-up-on-aisle-4 mode right behind the Buttocks-In-Chief and his spawn.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
42. Search "Steele dossier" on Twitter to see what they are up to, lots of fake "news" unfit for
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 12:06 PM
Jul 2017

even the Nationalist Enquirer.


 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
48. Yes if the scheduled meeting goes through
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 01:56 PM
Jul 2017

This will all be revealed again. I don't see how this makes Hillary the fall guy.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
31. I posted a similar point last night. Its infuriating.
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 09:29 AM
Jul 2017

Grassley has betrayed the country

Allowing Kushner and Manafort to merely provide docs (and maybe testify at some time in the future) and going after the Steele Dossier funding source.

Drumph is getting the toadies to fall in line with his corruption.

Looks like he will sack Sessions and appoint a lacky to fire Mueller.

We are now fully locked into a fascist state.

Time to form a Blue Guard.

 

pirateshipdude

(967 posts)
38. I knew Grassley was not about getting info from Jr and Manaford.
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 11:46 AM
Jul 2017

I knew Grassley was not all of a sudden going to get down t the bottom of anything. Thanks for the information.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
40. So, Trump might still be in the WH on Wed?
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 11:51 AM
Jul 2017

Seems like he won't last that long at this point. How many gaskets did he blow last night?




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