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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy does Discussionist still exist?
I haven't visited in many, many months. Maybe a year. My first post in as much time was removed, followed by a string 'libtard' and 'lefty' posts, and how we're all a bunch of losers. Don't they have Conservative Cave for that bullshit? Why are Skinner and Elad giving them their own hate forum?
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)That way if they come over here and start trying to rile some shit up, they can cross reference Discussionist and figure out who needs weeded out.
Atman
(31,464 posts)Business is business. Who needs a heart and soul?
RKP5637
(67,108 posts)And the code for DU could be extrapolated to create a similar site.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)His stars/bars icon was
Whiny snowflakes abound
Extreme delusion syndrome
Squinch
(50,950 posts)place where rightists can spread hate and brainwashed blather? It only serves to strengthen the hate and blather. And that's a serious offence in the world we find ourselves in.
It's a "How does one sleep at night?" kind of question.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)Acceptable to who? If you find it unacceptable, you should boycott DU.
Squinch
(50,950 posts)emulatorloo
(44,127 posts)Doesn't bother me, I never go there
Mineral Man is probably right too, keeps some trolls off DU
Squinch
(50,950 posts)lies and the hatred of the worst element of the right wing, they are hurting all of us badly. DI is doing the same thing, just on a smaller scale.
It's that old Churchill observation: "We have already established what you are, Madam. Now we are just haggling over the price."
emulatorloo
(44,127 posts)At DU During primary 2016.
No right wing site was too egregious for some DU'ers to post on DU, as long as it smeared Democrats. So much slobbering over right-wing hack Joe DiGenova as if he were some champion of TRUTH. And any DU'er who pushed back against those sources was bullied and vilified.
Happily, most of those Fox News 'progressives' have fled to safespaces in the bowels of Reddit.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)Why would you think they would even wonder if it's acceptable? Couldn't possibly be because you find it unacceptable.
Squinch
(50,950 posts)pintobean
(18,101 posts)Pretty simple. But, Breitbart isn't a message board. The admin are no more responsible for the content at Discussionist than any of the hate filled lies that occasionally show up here at DU. I'm happy to see that they support the first amendment.
I'd say, if you have a problem with Discussionist, either pretend it doesn't exist, or go over there and help the few liberals who are still there.
Squinch
(50,950 posts)Just keep whining from your high horse.
Squinch
(50,950 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Are they protected by the 1st Amendment? Absolutely.
Breitbart isnt a straight up parallel to discussionist, however, since DI is technically a message board and not a "news" source or even opinion outlet.
It's just a place where people post their opinions, like DU is. However, due to the lack of top-down administration there combined with a user moderation/jury system parallel to DU's AND the fact that it has become a collecting ground for DU's disgruntled ban-eees, it's apparently now domianted by right-wing voices, most particularly because those of us progressives from the early days who went over there from DU to check it out, got bored with it real quick.
So, yeah, it's been ceded to right-wing fuckbats, I guess.
And some people here are clamoring for admin to "shut it down", just as they've done on a regular basis ever since the thing started.
It's still there, despite demands from some here to the contrary, ergo Admin doesn't want to shut it down. They like the ad revenue, they like the fact that they have a collecting ground for the worst trolls from DU, maybe they like the fact that they can pinpoint IP addresses of the same for when those yarblockos inevitably try and skulk back onto this site. Maybe they see it as a safety valve. Maybe all, or none, of the above.
The bottom line is, just as with the perpetual outrage from some as to how THIS site is run (witness the long line of repeat customers in ATA with their multiple questions unanswered. I wonder what they say? ) admin can do whatever they want. It's their site, so is DU. If people really find the fact that the admins of this site also oversee that one that objectionable, they can vote with their feet and leave both sites, but I notice that the people who have been complaining the most about DU for... shit, as long as I can remember--- for some reason, they never actually make good on their promises to take off. In fact, many of them do stuff like circumvent bans and the like with zombie accounts and sockpuppets.
Frankly, I don't understand it.
Squinch
(50,950 posts)that the admins don't want to shut it down.
What I am questioning is why they would allow their names to be attached to yet another place where alt-right nut jobs egg each other on in to ever greater heights of hatred and ignorance. In that sense, it is achieving exactly the same ends that Breitbart is.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Still no answer.
I have my own suspicions, of course, and I outlined a few of them in that post. But I don't have any more insight into Skinner, Earl and Elad's thought processes there than you do.
Perhaps the lack of an answer -is- the answer, namely, they just aren't as bothered by it as you are.
Squinch
(50,950 posts)JI7
(89,250 posts)CK_John
(10,005 posts)BootinUp
(47,154 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)mercuryblues
(14,532 posts)by the Admins.
Syphon off enough freepers and the site has to close down because there aren't enough donations.
Then Discussionist get closed leaving the orange kool aide drinkers out in the cold.
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Hekate
(90,695 posts)No one makes you (and by "you" I mean everyone in this thread.)
When they first started I registered under another name, took a good look around, and departed never to return. I never even think about that site unless I stumble across one of these threads. It always puzzles me as to why anybody gives a damn, as long as they stay over there.
Skinner, Elad, and EarlG run a really good site here, the original DU. They care about this site. On the whole, I really do not care what they do in their spare time.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)What's wrong with making a little extra dosh off the perpetually-aggrieved dipshits on that side of the fence? More power to Skinner et al for creating a successful - if stupid - discussion board for morons and jackfuck radicals.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)by their creation.
I'm actually somewhat appalled that they haven't disbanded the site or otherwise changed the rules. It has become a cesspool indeed.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Changing the rules to mirror DU would defeat the purpose. It's essentially an arena where left and right can battle it out to the gory end.
If Skinner changed the rules to be left-leaning, he would just be cannibalizing his traffic at DU.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)But I argue that the rules have become disgustingly "right leaning". I really don't understand why Skinner tolerates the vile crap that gets through the Jury system which is absolutely far-right biased on that site.
I don't know what solution could work but the "Jury system" there as it is is a total shame. I've had my posts hidden for relatively minor implications that someone is doing something racist. They get to blatantly and openly exhibit racist behavior in their posts without fear of consequences. Since the election, but perhaps earlier, the jury system there failed.
I can supply examples if you are interested. I wish Skinner would see it.
obamanut2012
(26,077 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)No, seriously, they have a whole forum for that.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1259
KTM
(1,823 posts)Not so much for getting answers though, sadly.
obamanut2012
(26,077 posts)MineralMan
(146,316 posts)That's my guess. I never go there.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)I don't care if they make money off Discussionist. Good for them!
hughee99
(16,113 posts)Atman
(31,464 posts)But I'm sure it was something anti-Trump.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Trouble being the jury system might allow one side to take over.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)It helps to keep winger scumbag trolls from disrupting DU.
Gothmog
(145,274 posts)They are amusing