Massachusetts Response to Voter Information Request

[sheshe2]

Massachusetts Secretary of State William Galvin, also a Democrat, refused to give voting information for a different reason. “They’re not going to get it,” said Brian McNiff, a spokesman for Galvin. “It’s not a public record.” Massachusetts law specifies that the voter data “shall not be a public record.”

http://ourfuturesucks.com/2017/06/30/multiple-states-reject-request-from-trumps-voter-fraud-commission-to-provide-voter-roll-data/

FU GOP.

[Wounded Bear]

1. Nunya bidness...

[sheshe2]

2. Lol Yup!

[tiptonic]

38. Semper

Semper Fidèlis, Devil Dog!!

[Wounded Bear]

41. Semper Fidelis!

[BlancheSplanchnik]

68. Wish my ex, the Vietnam Recon Marine, was as smart as you.

He probably already had issues and a drinking problem, but Vietnam apparently really destroyed him. That and his bible-thumping repuke older brother.


Sigh. Oh well. That's ancient history now.

You keep shining the light!---many military will ONLY see it from a fellow soldier.

[Wounded Bear]

69. War wounds everybody...

Often, the worst damage is not "physical" and invisible. They are only now trying to come to grips with it. We still have a sky high suicide rate amongst vets.

For the first time, I had to see Trump's pic at the VA hospital where I get my care.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

70. omg, I'm sorry to hear that.

Ugh. 🤢

Better keep pics of President Obama handy when you have your appointments!

Yep, physically he was ok, but now, continuing in his alcoholism and rage, at 64, he can't be doing very well. Apparently his family is afraid of him so no one confronts him.
He was practically a wet-brain back when we broke up.

[Xipe Totec]

45. Wicked Pissah nt

[Kaleva]

3. So that's 4 states now?

CA, VA, NY, and now MA.

[sheshe2]

7. Kentucky as well...

[sheshe2]

8. This from my link...

Connecticut’s secretary of state, Denise Merrill, took a more nuanced position. Merill, a Democrat, said she would “share publicly-available information with the Kobach Commission while ensuring that the privacy of voters is honored by withholding protected data.” However, she took special exception to Kobach making the request, who she says “has a lengthy record of illegally disenfranchising eligible voters in Kansas.”

http://ourfuturesucks.com/2017/06/30/multiple-states-reject-request-from-trumps-voter-fraud-commission-to-provide-voter-roll-data/

[tblue37]

12. North Carolina. nt

[mac56]

51. Minnesota

[OhNo-Really]

64. mississippi

[Iliyah]

4. Yeah!

Why in the hell would they need our last 4 digits of the SS number? They are learning from Russia in suppressing votes. Ain't gonna happen. Eff the GOP!

[sheshe2]

10. THIS

[JustAnotherGen]

33. Or - giving it to Russia

That's just enough info to commit an id theft.

It's a 'piece' of the four areas of my daily work. I don't trust them to not give it to the Russians.

[avebury]

5. I just talked to the Oklahoma State Election Board which,

of course, is going to fork over the information as an Open Records request.

I cannot tell you how much I hate this state.

[sheshe2]

11. Sorry, avebury...

That really S**KS!

[rawhideal]

19. Alabama

Alabama will.

[Pacifist Patriot]

21. Florida probably already has.

[lpbk2713]

53. Scott probably handed it over personally.

"Anything you say Mr Trump."

[lark]

35. Sorry about that, I live in FL so I know about disfunctional idiotic legislatures and gov.

[OKNancy]

48. I guess Ari Melber was wrong, as he listed OK as a state that was not going along

ETA: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Vl63tNZaN6GvDGY2Nff6rNt8DkfJ28qS1-kZBnUHioQ/edit#gid=0

Oklahoma only giving public data

[avebury]

55. Oklahoma will give out

Name
Address
Age
How you are registered (Dem, Repub, Ind, whatever)
Your voting record (not how you vote but when you vote, ie. how often)

They will not give out Social Security Number

This is what I was told by the lady that I talked to at the Oklahoma State Election Board, the agency responsible for handling the request)

Oklahoma will be giving out enough information that it could be used to target voters who are likely not to vote Rethug.

[Tatiana]

56. Contact the ACLU in Oklahoma!

http://acluok.org/our-work/litigation/request-help/

Ask to file a complaint.

[avebury]

57. The lady was pretty clear that the information is covered by the Open Records

act which really pisses me off.

I am a state employee and one time there was some group looking for information on state employees that had the potential to really cross the line into invading people's personal information. Some of us talked to our HR Dept to find out what could be done to make sure that certain personal information was not made public.

[Mickju]

66. I hear ya

I hate this place too. I regret moving here three years ago to be near family when I retired. Now I'm too old and unwell to move.

[HAB911]

6. Everyone should email thier SOS asap

[sheshe2]

14. Exactly, HAB!

[LisaM]

44. I called mine (in Washington). They were kinda rude to me.

It's a blue state, but for some reason we have a Republican SoS. I asked what she was going to do and was told, "she's studying the issue". I said, "what's there to study? Voter fraud is a non-existent issue".

[thinkingagain]

84. I sent an email to her office. Yesterday morning

No reply as of yet. Based on your post I probably won't

I indicated that I did not agree with sending our voter rolls anywhere
as it opens more doors to identity theft and possible misuse of information
I said if they have to (because Wash st has a public info stupid thing
she should just put
“verified voter” at this address/phone
I also said that's the way all the “public” voter rolls should be
I then tried the
“I’m sure that she and her people know their job and already verify someone is eligible to vote when they register” and that voters have not voted multiple times in any election.

I’m thinking if we all say the elections offices know how to do their jobs and say how "That man" thinks they don’t and that they should send in everything with names crossed off and the words “verified Voter” across it may drive home a point. But probably not with him anyway.

[furtheradu]

9. Celebrate OUR INDEPENDENCE,& CALL,Y'all!

Call Your SOS, & guv*,on this.. AND keep calling elected officials on ALL the trump-rusky-republiker crazy.
*If You're in a red state, as I am, emphasize the Fed govment OVER REACH in this.

PS. I believe Iowa just said heck no, as well!
Thanks, SheShe 💖

[sheshe2]

13. Welcome, furtheradu.

Good on Iowa!

[furtheradu]

18. Just checked the Iowa SOS site

They haven't completely decided.. checking their state law, etc.
HOWEVER! statement said there's a National SOS meeting NEXT WEEK, they will decide then.
Again, I urge EVER'body to call their SOS, between now & Monday,
& protest this over reach/power grab!

[smirkymonkey]

15. Good! I have faith that my state will continue to resist this treasonous adminstration until they

are out of power.

[Gothmog]

16. I am glad that the states are not cooperating with Kobach's voter suppression efforts

[sheshe2]

17. They are not even trying to hide it anymore.

[AJT]

20. Can you imagine the rightwing reaction if President Obama's

administration had requested this information?

[spanone]

22. Imagine if Obama and the Democrats had tried something like this....

[sheshe2]

25. Oh, yes...

[Grammy23]

23. My husband and I figure since we live in Flori-duh

our voter information has already been sent by Rick Scott personally. Another rat-bastard if there ever was one. 😡

[classykaren]

47. Correct

[Tatiana]

24. I wonder if people in "red" states would have standing to sue SOS that hand over the information.

Social security numbers are not publicly available information, and absent suspicion of a crime or a business contractual agreement, there is no legitimate reason to hand that information over.

It's a given that the Republican SsOS are going to fork over the information. However, voters in those states should consult their state laws and contact the ACLU. The threat of lawsuits might cause them to back down. If not, at least we would have the opportunity to examine the motives for this operation under oath.

[sheshe2]

28. This can't be legal.

Elections are held by the States. I agree that there should be lawsuits galore, Tatiana.

[Marthe48]

26. I emailed State of Ohio SoS

I don't know if Ohio has refused or not, but I told him I don't want my information shared.

Maybe wikileaks will step up and share information about the politicians in states that allow this breach of information.

[spedtr90]

27. Minnesota will not comply.

Last edited Fri Jun 30, 2017, 03:48 PM - Edit history (1)

Secretary of State Steve Simon: "As I’ve said before, I have serious doubts about the commission’s credibility and trustworthiness. Its two co-chairs have publicly backed President Trump’s false and irresponsible claim that millions of ineligible votes were cast in the last election. They, along with other recent appointees, appear to have a strong interest in steering the commission toward their pre-determined conclusions and outcomes. I fear that the commission risks becoming a partisan tool to shut out millions of eligible American voters.

The commission seems to be distracting attention from the most serious challenge to the integrity of our election system: The threat of cyber-attacks by outside forces, including foreign governments, who seek to disrupt and undermine our elections. Cyber-security is where we need to concentrate our attention and energy."

http://www.sos.state.mn.us/about-the-office/news-room/secretary-simon-statement-on-request-from-presidential-advisory-commission-on-election-integrity/

[sheshe2]

29. Good.

Thank you Minnesota.

[mrmpa]

30. I have a rare name...........

including my middle name. I know of one other woman with my exact name who lives in my birth state. If this 'commission' finds this information, it will probably try to disenfranchise both of us.

[Politicub]

31. Yes! Trump doesn't need people's information

He's only going to use it so his gestapo can barge in and ask to see everyone's papers.

[Hekate]

32. How many states now in the Resistance?

[OKNancy]

52. list

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Vl63tNZaN6GvDGY2Nff6rNt8DkfJ28qS1-kZBnUHioQ/edit#gid=0

[JustAnotherGen]

34. I bet Christie

Throws us under the bus. It's awfully convenient for such a big year in NJ for that fucker in Washington to ask for it - isn't it?

[sheshe2]

37. Interesting timing, JAG.

Who is your SoS? Dem or Puke?

[JustAnotherGen]

60. Kim Guadagno

Also the current gubernatorial Republican nominee.


Curious and curiouser.

Time for a little activism. I don't trust the Christie Administration. This is the final "caging" state you know. They pulled that shit in the early 80's.

[sheshe2]

61. Don't blame you for not trusting them,JAG.

RESIST!

[tiptonic]

36. Careful

We don't to make 'pootie' mad!!

[Raster]

39. I checked with the Arizona Secretary of State's Office this morning...

...they are *undecided* at this time, but will "make a statement shortly." The SoS is a Republican, but is still smarting from being sued by PROJECT VOTE.

https://www.azsos.gov/sites/azsos.gov/files/arizona_and_project_vote_settle_dispute_over_voter_registration_data.pdf

[sheshe2]

40. Ha, they got sued!

Good to hear he may have to think twice on this one.

[Raster]

43. Yes, after the general election fiasco, where many in Maricopa County were not able to vote...

...because of reduced number of polling places, the Republican Maricopa County Recorder lost her re-election bid to a Dem. Republican Secretary of State Michelle Reagan knows she is on thin ice.

[B Stieg]

42. California refused-and the number is now up to 19!

Last edited Fri Jun 30, 2017, 03:56 PM - Edit history (1)

http://ktla.com/2017/06/29/california-secretary-of-state-refuses-to-provide-voter-records-for-trumps-election-fraud-probe/



http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/340289-19-states-refusing-to-provide-voter-data-to-trump-panel

[ailsagirl]

46. Hah!

[amrita73]

49. Virginia is safe for now, votes for a new governor in November this year

"On Thursday, Virginia's governor and the secretaries of state in California and Kentucky, all Democrats, said they will not share the requested information.

The California and Virginia officials said attention would be better spent upgrading aging voting systems or focusing on Russia's alleged election meddling. Mr. Trump has alleged "serious voter fraud" in both states."

"States began reacting to the letter on Thursday afternoon. "I have no intention of honoring this request," said Governor Terry McAuliffe of Virginia in a statement. 'Virginia conducts fair, honest, and democratic elections, and there is no evidence of significant voter fraud in Virginia.'"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/29/trumps-voter-fraud-commission-wants-to-know-the-voting-history-party-id-and-address-of-every-voter-in-america/?utm_term=.5aa0bb88fb97



This is unheard-of unconstitutional....beyond the pale.

[underpants]

77. Did you see that a Libertarian candidate WILL be on the ballot in November?

Sounds a really smart guy. Hanover has some seriously RED Teabaggers areas - permanent BENGHAZI signs on route 54 there.



RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — A Libertarian Party candidate for governor has qualified to be on the ballot for November's general election in Virginia.

The Virginian-Pilot reports 34-year-old Cliff Hyra will join Democratic nominee Ralph Northam and Republican nominee Ed Gillespie on the Nov. 7 ballot. The Virginia Department of Elections confirmed Thursday that Hyra had qualified, following the submission of petitions bearing more than 10,000 signatures.

Hyra is a patent attorney from Hanover County and is running for elected office for the first time. He has a bachelor's degree in aerospace engineering from Virginia Tech and a law degree from George Mason University.

Libertarian Robert Sarvis collected less than 7 percent of the popular vote in the last Virginia gubernatorial contest.

http://www.richmond.com/ap/state/libertarian-candidate-enters-virginia-gubernatorial-fray/article_f16fe20e-14ca-5730-98fc-ee23029fb312.html

[OKNancy]

50. complete list

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Vl63tNZaN6GvDGY2Nff6rNt8DkfJ28qS1-kZBnUHioQ/edit#gid=0

[sheshe2]

54. Thank you Nancy!

[NastyRiffraff]

58. I just emailed Maryland's SOS

Thanks for the reminder, sheshe

[sheshe2]

59. Good, NR.

Thanks!

[BigmanPigman]

62. I'll make a deal...my info for the fake prez's tax returns (this year's included).

[sheshe2]

63. Ha!

Not a good deal...he will never hold up his end of the bargain.

[machoneman]

65. If Trump had hired anyone but Kris Kobach...

to run this ill-advised venture, states might be more inclined to comply. KK though was the worst person (think: why not Condi Rice, Colin Powell, etc.) to place in this new posting.

Adding who I call Count von Spasdick just ensured that even red state SOS's would balk, as the combined reputation of these two winger clowns is lower than any ambulance chaser!

[czarjak]

67. Naturally...

Texas is all in. Greg and Dan are sure swell guys.

[sheshe2]

72. Nope...

Texas was a big NOPE!

[czarjak]

74. "Texas will give info to voter fraud commission"...

Is what it says in the Lubbock A-J. Just readin'.

[peggysue2]

71. Encouraged

I think we should be encouraged by the degree of the push back, not only from Democratic states (however cheers to Massachusetts) but from Red state strongholds that are standing their ground with a big, fat: NO. Loved Mississippi's response: Go jump in the Gulf."

This is conspiracy theory run amuck, deliberately and willfully attacking voter rights and compromising privacy rights. These state AG's are expected to send private info and social security numbers over unsecured lines? Underscores the Trumpian's dismissal of cyber-security issues.

Go America!

[sheshe2]

73. We got 29 states and counting now!

[Buns_of_Fire]

75. It's a shame that "Eat it, fuzznuts" wouldn't be considered a proper response. nt

[diva77]

76. yet as of 2014 at least MA gave up the info to CROSSCHECK led by Kobach - Kansas SOS

All the voter data from at least 30 states is being funneled through Kris Kobach in Kansas:
see p.8 & 9 of this document:
Interstate Voter Registration Crosscheck Program
http://www.nased.org/NASED_Winter_2013_PP_Presentations/KANSAS.pdf
Kris W. Kobach
How does it work?
•
Each state pulls data on January 15 each year using
prescribed data format
•
Upload data to secure FTP site (hosted by Arkansas)
•
Kansas IT department pulls data, runs comparison, uploads
results to FTP site
•
Each state downloads results from FTP site, processes them
according to state laws & regulations
•
Kansas deletes all other states’ data

Interstate
Crosscheck Data Format
Field
Format
Example
Status
A=Active; I=Inactive
A
Date_Generated
YYYY/MM/DD
2010/01/01
First_Name
Bob
Middle_Name
Alan
Last_Name
Jones
Suffix Name
Jr
Date_of_Birth
YYYY/MM/DD
1940/06/16
Voter_ID_Number
123456
Last_4_SSN
7890
Mailing Address
Line 1 Line 2 City State Zip
123 Anywhere St...
County
Allen
Date_of_Registration
YYYY/MM/DD


1970/01/01
Voted_in_2010
Y=did vote; N=did not vote
Y

[sheshe2]

79. Your link leads me to a big blank page.

[diva77]

81. It's a lengthy pdf - maybe it wasn't fully downloaded when you went to it - p. 8-9 important

sorry if link didn't work for you - it works for me; I copied the important info. in body of the post anyway...


thanks for checking it out!

[Me.]

78. I Don't Remember Them Asking For Our SS# When we registered to vote

[sheshe2]

80. Me either, me.

Funny it is needed now.

[diva77]

82. some states require it if you don't have a drivers' license

[Me.]

83. And How Would They Have It

Some type of cross referencing?

[Gothmog]

85. No one should help Kobach suppress the vote