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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRemember: Obamacare had to pass with a 60-vote super majority in the Senate
Remember: Ds held months of debate on Obamacare
Remember: President Obama held televised hearings on the ACA with all the major R pols in attendance
Remember: Rs were allowed to propose amendments to the ACA - over 100 made it into the legislation
Remember: Ds asked for and received input from numerous healthcare groups to fashion the ACA
Remember: the CBO scored the ACA very favorably, well before a vote was taken
Remember: the ACA outlined how it would be funded down to the last clause
Remember all of the above when you hear the talking heads drawing their false equivalencies between then and now.
But most of all, remember that the ACA passed without a single R vote.
meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)because Pence would step in and break the tie. How the republicans would have been howling if Obama had done that - with *anything*.
unblock
(52,208 posts)a version of the obamacare bill barely made it through the senate with the 60 votes needed for cloture.
but there were still changes to be made for what would have been the final version. however, ted kennedy died and his seat was replaced with republican scott brown, so we no longer had 60 votes.
so the house agreed to pass the senate version as is and it became the official aca law, and a week later, they passed another law (the health care and education reconciliation act) via reconciliation to take care of the final adjustments.
republicans went ape at this "sneaky" procedure.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)"budgetary reconciliation" and only needed 50 votes.
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)And we had LIEberman holding entire D party by guts.
hibbing
(10,098 posts)Initech
(100,068 posts)We can't keep letting them get away with this.
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)agreement that any state could refuse to expand Medicaid in their state. Those decisions weakened and broke the ACA so the premiums rose and many Companies withdrew from the plan.
The fight to stop Our President Obama, from helping millions and getting the credit, has propelled the the R's vendetta to erase the best plan for medical insurance help which our nation still needs.
We should be working together to insure all our citizens and not taking their insurance money and giving it to the most wealthy among us. It is thievery. It is robbery. It is fraud and it is wrong.
Generic Brad
(14,274 posts)Didn't Scott Brown, R-MA, vote for it?
mythology
(9,527 posts)He was for the second part which was passed using reconciliation and so only needed 51 votes.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)second part of the bill which was passed by reconcillation.
The vote results:
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=2&vote=00105
Brown (R-MA), Nay
Note that three Democrats also voted against the second part...
Lincoln (D-AR), Nay
Nelson (D-NE), Nay
Pryor (D-AR), Nay