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(34,147 posts)
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 07:36 AM Jun 2017

A Physics Expert Had Her Own Theories Mansplained OnstageUntil One Person Stood Up

A Physics Expert Had Her Own Theories Mansplained Onstage—Until One Person Stood Up
By John Bonazzo • 06/06/17 6:45am

One woman. Six men. You know, a typical science panel discussion.

Veronika Hubeny, a theoretical physicist and professor at the University of California, Davis, was barely able to speak during the first hour of a panel she was on at the World Science Festival. When the conversation finally turned to string theory, her area of expertise, all eyes in the sold-out audience were on her. But as she prepared to speak, the moderator started mansplaining, describing her theories in detail without letting her talk.

That is, until a woman’s voice cried out from near the front of the dark auditorium: “Let her speak, please!” The room erupted in cheers.

Such was the scene at John Jay College in New York this past weekend, during a panel on “Pondering the Imponderables.” The Saturday afternoon discussion featured a male moderator (Jim Holt of The New Yorker), five male panelists and Hubeny.

More: http://observer.com/2017/06/sexism-science-facebook-mansplaining/

Mansplaining around an hour into the video:

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A Physics Expert Had Her Own Theories Mansplained OnstageUntil One Person Stood Up (Original Post) csziggy Jun 2017 OP
Sounds like the moderator did it to everyone Loki Liesmith Jun 2017 #1
Dorksplaining rpannier Jun 2017 #7
ASS-splaining. calimary Jun 2017 #10
Wow. He kept talking over her, not just setting up her Ilsa Jun 2017 #2
The posters zentrum Jun 2017 #3
To be fair most panels had more than a single woman on them csziggy Jun 2017 #4
It's all the rage in STEM-related education publicity Igel Jun 2017 #6
Putting this here for use by my more egalitarian academic colleagues! FreepFryer Jun 2017 #5
Lol. Of course, many (virtually all?) of this administration's panels Hortensis Jun 2017 #8
Ugh. As a man, I'm sickened by this. progressoid Jun 2017 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Maraya1969 Jun 2017 #9
pharyngula has a post about this bobbieinok Jun 2017 #11

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
1. Sounds like the moderator did it to everyone
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 07:54 AM
Jun 2017
"Holt dominates the conversation, whether discussing string theory or anything else."

So would that be just "splaining"?


(61,731 posts)
2. Wow. He kept talking over her, not just setting up her
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 07:55 AM
Jun 2017

turn to speak. Her subject starts around 60-61 minutes, but the demand from the audience occurs at 66 minutes. He had five minutes of elaborating, talking over her. I thought the audience was very patient.


(9,866 posts)
3. The posters
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 08:48 AM
Jun 2017

.....for this event (the ones I saw, anyway) show men, in suits, talking, including Alan Alda; a 5 year old female child in awe over a sort of play-doh substance; and a female runner---young, with her full body outlined due to wearing form fitting running gear to exemplify "energy", her face obscured by light. Could have been an ad for great running shoes.

There are no pictures of professionally clothed women talking or doing anything scientifically serious. Let alone featured with men.


(34,147 posts)
4. To be fair most panels had more than a single woman on them
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 09:18 AM
Jun 2017

It was just that particular panel was male dominated in more ways than one.

If you look at the photos from the event many panels were much more balanced: http://www.worldsciencefestival.com/signing-off-10th-anniversary-world-science-festival/
If you scroll to the bottom and click the View All button, you get a slideshow of the photos with captions

In addition, there was a panel of all women space scientists called "Hidden Figures No More! Heroines of Space Science Past, Present, and Future."

There was also "Nevertheless, She Persisted: A Spotlight on Women in Science" with another all female panel.

The poster with the woman running was for "Flame Challenge: What is Energy?" which is sponsored by Alan Alda:
Alan Alda has issued this year’s challenge to the world’s top scientists: What is energy? In an action-packed hour of interactive demonstrations, Alan and a team of experts invite the audience to explore how our bodies use energy, the impact of natural resources, and how we’re going to power the world in the future. The program also highlights the winners of the 2017 Flame Challenge, in which video and written explanations of energy were judged for clarity’s sake…by 20,000 eleven year-olds.

This program is in association with the Flame Challenge, an annual contest held by The Alan Alda Center for Communicating Science at Stony Brook University.
One of the demonstrations on how the body used energy was a runner on a treadmill (starts about 48:00):


(35,522 posts)
6. It's all the rage in STEM-related education publicity
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 09:42 AM
Jun 2017

to show girls, esp. girls of color, engaged or oohing over sciency stuff.

If you try to discern what the population of the US looks like from a lot of educational materials--I'm talking alumni magazines from a couple of universities, textbooks from two publishers, the district I live in, the district I work in, and the stuff that shows up in my high-school mailbox, the US is probably 80% women, 50% black, 30% Latino, and 4% white female.

Surveys regularly show that if you ask about the percentage of the US population that is Muslim, Jewish, black, Latino, or GLBT the most common estimates are anywhere from twice to 5 or 6 times the actual percentages. It's like claiming credit for work--if you take a team and ask each member what percentage s/he contributed, the total work contributed by all members usually comes out really close to 140% of what was done. (Take away: People are really, really bad at statistics. Meaning my estimates in the 2nd par. are almost certainly off.)


(58,785 posts)
8. Lol. Of course, many (virtually all?) of this administration's panels
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 10:13 AM
Jun 2017

would qualify for inclusion on allmalepanels.tumblr.com. "Please submit! Preferably photos and screenshots. Or links. Make sure it is an all male thing, if not, please explain how it still may count as one."

I believe a good argument could be made that Betsy DeVos simply doesn't count as a member of the cabinet, even on those rare occasions when she's technically present at a meeting.

NY Times, Jill Filipovic: Pence and the far-right Freedom (Koch) Conference planning massive cuts to healthcare benefits for women: "This isn’t the first celebratory photo the White House has released of men cutting health care for women."

Response to csziggy (Original post)


(12,858 posts)
11. pharyngula has a post about this
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 10:49 AM
Jun 2017

He also has lots of posts about sexual harassment at prestige
universities in fields such as physics and anthropology. And how any
complaints pretty well destroy the woman's future in that field.

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