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Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 09:43 AM Jul 2012

I was a right-wing child star By Jonathan Krohn in salon.com

At 13, I gave a speech at CPAC. Four years later, I renounced conservatives -- and they attacked me for it


A photo of the author at 17


Four years ago, at the age of 13, I gave a speech at CPAC (Conservative Political Action Conference). To be honest, I had no idea how big a deal it was to make a two-minute appearance on a B-list panel. But the speech blew up, and I became the child star of the right wing — like the conservative Macauley Culkin, except I’ve never had a drug problem or dated Mila Kunis, unfortunately.

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But then, earlier this week, Politico released an interview in which I announced I wasn’t a conservative anymore — and the proverbial crap hit the fan. Since then, I have been treated by the political right with all the maturity of schoolyard bullies. The Daily Caller, for instance, wrote three articles about my shift, topping it off with an opinion piece in which they stated that I deserved criticism because I wear “thick-rimmed glasses” and I like Ludwig Wittgenstein. Why don’t they just call me “four-eyes”? These are not adults leveling serious criticism; these are scorned right-wingers showing all the maturity of a little boy. No wonder I fit in so well when I was 13.

I shouldn’t be too surprised. Political divisiveness in America today is a childish thing anyway. The never-ending war between the left and the right seems to me like a couple of drunken college boys fighting over which one of their fraternities is cooler. Think about it: Once you join a side, you have to obey the house rules, go to all the parties, and defend your status as a member of the greatest club on campus. And this is what drove me away from conservatism to my admittedly center-left position of independent mindedness (if that’s a thing).

I was tired of being a part of the ideological warfare this country is so caught up in. I was tired of the right using me as an example of how young people “get” what they’re talking about — when it’s obvious that I didn’t get what I talking about at all. I mean, come on, I was between 13 and 14 when I was regurgitating these talking points! What does a kid who has never paid a tax bring to the table in a conversation about the burden of taxes? What does a healthy child know about people who can’t afford healthcare because of preexisting conditions? No matter how intelligent a person might be, certain political issues require life experience; they’re much more complicated than the black and white frames imposed by partisan America. (And no, my mother and father didn’t write my material for me. You’d have to be as paranoid as the birthers to think someone’s parents would put them up to all that. Have a bit more faith in the human race, man!) I was just a 13-year-old kid spitting up the nonsense he’d learned. In the future, a good rule of thumb might be: If you’re not old enough to have consensual sex, you’re probably not old enough to make consequential political statements.

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http://www.salon.com/2012/07/08/i_was_a_right_wing_child_star/

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I was a right-wing child star By Jonathan Krohn in salon.com (Original Post) Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 OP
Reminds me of the recent episode of Bill Maher muntrv Jul 2012 #1
One of Maher's clips featured this guy <nt> caraher Jul 2012 #2
Yes and he even mentioned this young man and called him a moron. Boy wonder what Bill southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #4
I always thought that a conservative was someone whose only experience with orgasm WCGreen Jul 2012 #5
Wasn't Norquist a teen when he LittleGirl Jul 2012 #3
Cenk Uygur talks to Jonathan Krohn: Quantess Jul 2012 #6
that was a great interview Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #16
A bumper sticker reading "I was a Republican and then I grew up" Skidmore Jul 2012 #7
"I was a Republican until they lost their minds." rocktivity Jul 2012 #8
Good stuff, though I'm still not sure where this entrenched "left" in America comes from, villager Jul 2012 #9
that's true,,but for a young kid from Atlanta who has just discovered a more liberal way of thinking Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #18
Jonathan is good writer and I see him making a good niche in the world riverbendviewgal Jul 2012 #10
"No wonder I fit in so well when I was 13." Marr Jul 2012 #11
Sam Seder had Krohn on the show Friday (he did movie recommendations, too) nashville_brook Jul 2012 #12
He's still just a kid. kentuck Jul 2012 #13
I was a right-wing child star... then around the time I was fourteen Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2012 #14
This kid is terrific! WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2012 #15
He’s a real good writer with a really cool self-deprecating sense of humor Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #17
for another shift Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #19
Macauley Culkin is a conservative? graywarrior Jul 2012 #20

muntrv

(14,505 posts)
1. Reminds me of the recent episode of Bill Maher
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 09:47 AM
Jul 2012

when he said that conservatives act like teenagers. Rush, Hannity, Beck all act like 13 year olds.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
4. Yes and he even mentioned this young man and called him a moron. Boy wonder what Bill
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 10:27 AM
Jul 2012

will say now. When you think about it bill was right. Glad this young man is evolving. Most people do.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
5. I always thought that a conservative was someone whose only experience with orgasm
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 10:40 AM
Jul 2012

was via a self-inflicted one...

All he guilt with none of the fun...

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
3. Wasn't Norquist a teen when he
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 10:25 AM
Jul 2012

cooked up that Anti-Tax pledge?

Here's another good example of how immature that thinking is for conservatives.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
7. A bumper sticker reading "I was a Republican and then I grew up"
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 10:48 AM
Jul 2012

would be a great one to have for people like this young man. I like what he has to say about children having no real voice in policy making venues. That problems in society are indeed made by adults and perpetuated by them.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
9. Good stuff, though I'm still not sure where this entrenched "left" in America comes from,
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 11:41 AM
Jul 2012

...or currently resides.

The political landscape is currently made up of feckless centrists and deranged rightwingers...

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
18. that's true,,but for a young kid from Atlanta who has just discovered a more liberal way of thinking
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 01:43 AM
Jul 2012

it might sound like balance.

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
10. Jonathan is good writer and I see him making a good niche in the world
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 11:48 AM
Jul 2012

I loved when he fit so well with the right wingers at 13 because they are all as mature as a 13 year old.

Learning philosophy can give you a broad range of thinking.
American schools should be teaching the great past writers.

My son sent me this link and it is a great place to learn what to read. The young man who has this website seems well put together.

http://philosophyforlife.org/about-me-contact/


Since then, I’ve met and interviewed hundreds of people who were also profoundly helped by the ideas of Socrates, Plato, Seneca, Epicurus and other great sages. I’m fascinated by how contemporary people use philosophy as a way of life, or as the bedrock for communities. And I’m interested in how governments use this synthesis of ancient philosophy and modern psychology to build a new ‘politics of well-being’ (which is the name of the blog I wrote for five years, that’s now moved to here).
 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
11. "No wonder I fit in so well when I was 13."
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 11:50 AM
Jul 2012

Haha, good line.

On the other hand, his point about the "never-ending (childish) war between the left and right" in this country is, I would say, too glib. It's not that simple. The childish cretins who are criticizing his glasses right now don't have an analog on the left. There are passionate people on both sides and partisans abound, yes-- but it's not a matter of two more or less equal teams chattering at each other.

kentuck

(111,089 posts)
13. He's still just a kid.
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 11:56 AM
Jul 2012

I would suggest that he be given the space to decide what his true political beliefs are to educate himself beyond the present political propaganda. In my opinion, he will see that the majority of distortions and exaggerations come from the conservative side.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
14. I was a right-wing child star... then around the time I was fourteen
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 12:08 PM
Jul 2012

I really started to notice breasts and wanting to someday touch one realized I needed a new shtick.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
15. This kid is terrific!
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 12:12 PM
Jul 2012

He really gives me hope for the next generation. As a high school teacher, what I like the most here is that this kid knows how to THINK. Who knows, he may change his politics again before he's out of college. Most people go through some kind of evolution in their politics during their lives. But if he does, it'll be because he's looked at the issues and thought about them, not because someone tells him he's supposed to think one way or the other. And chances are, he'll land on the left side of center, primarily because of that whole "thinking" thing.

I didn't know where this kid was from before reading the article here, but I had seen "the speech". I thought then that this young boy was just spewing out what he had been hearing his whole, young life, and this confirms it. I loved this part: These are not adults leveling serious criticism; these are scorned right-wingers showing all the maturity of a little boy. No wonder I fit in so well when I was 13.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
17. He’s a real good writer with a really cool self-deprecating sense of humor
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 04:32 PM
Jul 2012
Now, I’m just another white, comic-book collecting, sci-fi watching, film-obsessing, satirizing, sorta stereotypical Jewish nerd who’s never been laid. And no, that’s not the reason I switched, either

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