Sun Jun 4, 2017, 07:29 PM
Docreed2003 (12,560 posts)
Is it past time to stop trusting media sources funded via RT??
I was listening to the Friday replay of the Thom Hartman show this morning and I was somewhat shocked to hear the fill in host rant about the Russian ties to Trump and his people. Essentially, and I admittedly caught the rant after it had started, he was lambasting the number of articles online and in mainstream media that are trying to connect the Trump campaign and the current administration to Russia, suggesting that much of it was fake in order to generate outrage from the left. While I agree that some sources should be taken with a grain of salt, I think there's been pretty clear evidence of collusion. I let that pass, thinking perhaps I missed the start of the rant and therefore missed his point. Yet, minutes later, when discussing potential impeachment of Trump, there was ZERO mention of Russian collusion, in fact it seemed like he went out of his way to avoid mentioning that as a cause for impeachment!
I think we can all agree that several of the RT "liberal" commentators have been more keen to attack Democrats than pursuing the Russian allegations. Should we now begin to question the motivation of those media personalities on the RT payroll?
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Docreed2003 | Jun 2017 | OP |
jehop61 | Jun 2017 | #1 | |
jrthin | Jun 2017 | #2 | |
Barack_America | Jun 2017 | #3 | |
marylandblue | Jun 2017 | #4 | |
Docreed2003 | Jun 2017 | #5 | |
sharedvalues | Jun 2017 | #57 | |
bettyellen | Jun 2017 | #6 | |
Docreed2003 | Jun 2017 | #7 | |
Trial_By_Fire | Jun 2017 | #10 | |
Docreed2003 | Jun 2017 | #11 | |
bettyellen | Jun 2017 | #17 | |
Trial_By_Fire | Jun 2017 | #19 | |
bettyellen | Jun 2017 | #21 | |
Trial_By_Fire | Jun 2017 | #23 | |
bettyellen | Jun 2017 | #26 | |
Trial_By_Fire | Jun 2017 | #27 | |
Adrahil | Jun 2017 | #32 | |
bettyellen | Jun 2017 | #35 | |
Trial_By_Fire | Jun 2017 | #36 | |
Adrahil | Jun 2017 | #30 | |
Trial_By_Fire | Jun 2017 | #34 | |
bettyellen | Jun 2017 | #37 | |
Adrahil | Jun 2017 | #42 | |
Trial_By_Fire | Jun 2017 | #44 | |
Adrahil | Jun 2017 | #46 | |
Trial_By_Fire | Jun 2017 | #47 | |
Adrahil | Jun 2017 | #48 | |
emulatorloo | Jun 2017 | #45 | |
Trial_By_Fire | Jun 2017 | #50 | |
emulatorloo | Jun 2017 | #51 | |
Trial_By_Fire | Jun 2017 | #53 | |
emulatorloo | Jun 2017 | #61 | |
sharedvalues | Jun 2017 | #56 | |
Trial_By_Fire | Jun 2017 | #8 | |
Docreed2003 | Jun 2017 | #12 | |
Trial_By_Fire | Jun 2017 | #15 | |
Docreed2003 | Jun 2017 | #16 | |
Trial_By_Fire | Jun 2017 | #18 | |
bettyellen | Jun 2017 | #20 | |
Trial_By_Fire | Jun 2017 | #22 | |
sharedvalues | Jun 2017 | #63 | |
Trial_By_Fire | Jun 2017 | #64 | |
sharedvalues | Jun 2017 | #66 | |
emulatorloo | Jun 2017 | #49 | |
bettyellen | Jun 2017 | #60 | |
hrmjustin | Jun 2017 | #9 | |
bettyellen | Jun 2017 | #25 | |
Squinch | Jun 2017 | #13 | |
Spider Jerusalem | Jun 2017 | #14 | |
wildeyed | Jun 2017 | #24 | |
Else You Are Mad | Jun 2017 | #28 | |
Docreed2003 | Jun 2017 | #29 | |
Else You Are Mad | Jun 2017 | #31 | |
bettyellen | Jun 2017 | #39 | |
Docreed2003 | Jun 2017 | #55 | |
bettyellen | Jun 2017 | #41 | |
sharedvalues | Jun 2017 | #58 | |
Bucky | Jun 2017 | #33 | |
Docreed2003 | Jun 2017 | #38 | |
bettyellen | Jun 2017 | #40 | |
Bucky | Jun 2017 | #43 | |
bettyellen | Jun 2017 | #52 | |
sharedvalues | Jun 2017 | #54 | |
OilemFirchen | Jun 2017 | #59 | |
Docreed2003 | Jun 2017 | #62 | |
bettyellen | Jun 2017 | #65 | |
SHRED | Jun 2017 | #67 | |
Docreed2003 | Jun 2017 | #68 | |
Cha | Jun 2017 | #69 |
Response to Docreed2003 (Original post)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 07:31 PM
jehop61 (1,735 posts)
1. Stopped listening
To Thom when I heard he was align d with RT. Don't trust it as an unbiased source
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Response to Docreed2003 (Original post)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 07:32 PM
jrthin (4,460 posts)
2. It's way past time. nt
Response to Docreed2003 (Original post)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 07:32 PM
Barack_America (28,876 posts)
3. Yes. Nt.
Response to Docreed2003 (Original post)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 07:38 PM
marylandblue (12,337 posts)
4. haven't been listening to RT for a long time
I used to like some of those hosts, but now they are sellouts.
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Response to marylandblue (Reply #4)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 07:40 PM
Docreed2003 (12,560 posts)
5. It certainly seems that way
Response to marylandblue (Reply #4)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:37 PM
sharedvalues (6,916 posts)
57. Russia Today RT? Propanganda organ of Putin?
Response to Docreed2003 (Original post)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 07:42 PM
bettyellen (47,209 posts)
6. I reached this conclusion a year ago, they and the Intercept lost me. Had a friend who repeated
A lot of that crap and at some point I told him he was reading garbage.
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Response to bettyellen (Reply #6)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 07:48 PM
Docreed2003 (12,560 posts)
7. I think I foolishly believed Thom was different...
While this was a fill in host, Thom has not been much better on the issue...money beats principle I suppose
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Response to Docreed2003 (Reply #7)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 07:53 PM
Trial_By_Fire (624 posts)
10. Thom Hartmann is an asset to the Democratic party and cause...
Anybody who know anything about Thom Hartmann knows he is cool dude and a unbelievable patriot to America and Democratic issues and policies.
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Response to Trial_By_Fire (Reply #10)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 07:57 PM
Docreed2003 (12,560 posts)
11. While I used to believe that...
I have serious reservations when he tends to avoid discussing the Russian allegations and has a host that essentially calls out any allegations as being "fake news".
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Response to Trial_By_Fire (Reply #10)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:20 PM
bettyellen (47,209 posts)
17. I think it's easy to get sucked in and lose credibility by association- and that's RTs aim by
Surrounding him with nutters and Russian propaganda.
He may himself be a good guy, but it seems his sub host is a shill, and the association hurts his reputation. Just as Cenk lost credibility by associating with cretins. |
Response to bettyellen (Reply #17)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:28 PM
Trial_By_Fire (624 posts)
19. Totally wrong...
Sax is a good guy from what I know, I did not hear anything from Sax that makes me
think he is a 'shill' except for the Dem causes... |
Response to Trial_By_Fire (Reply #19)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:32 PM
bettyellen (47,209 posts)
21. You say you never watch RT, just Hartman... so you're lecturing me about RT why?
This is hilarious.
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Response to bettyellen (Reply #21)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:34 PM
Trial_By_Fire (624 posts)
23. See my post on your comment.
Response to Trial_By_Fire (Reply #23)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:37 PM
bettyellen (47,209 posts)
26. You watched a few minutes.... got it.
Response to bettyellen (Reply #26)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:39 PM
Trial_By_Fire (624 posts)
27. How about you?
How much time have YOU watched Hartmann on RT?
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Response to Trial_By_Fire (Reply #27)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:55 PM
Adrahil (13,340 posts)
32. It doesn't matter....
Even if Hartmann is doing straight journalism, he is serving Putin's interests in disguising RT as a legitimate news source.
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Response to Trial_By_Fire (Reply #27)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:01 PM
bettyellen (47,209 posts)
35. I've skimmed stories on RT almost a year back and could see how slanted they are- sorry they're
Going to jack up Hatman's reputation but that is how things will likely work. I guess if he keeps his nose clean he can keep a lot of his fans, but I'm not supporting RT's network of reporters. Plenty of other sources that don't try to muddy the waters with DTs deep state bullshit. If Hartman was smart he'd get far away from them while he can.
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Response to bettyellen (Reply #35)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:07 PM
Trial_By_Fire (624 posts)
36. So, you have never watch Hartmann on RT, yet...
you want to bad mouth him? W T F?
As I posted in this thread - 1) Solid real Democratic issues are discussed, and 2) where are all the rich Dems supporting *ANY* fucking left-Dem radio and TV? Right, there aren't any... |
Response to Trial_By_Fire (Reply #10)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:53 PM
Adrahil (13,340 posts)
30. He's taking Putin's paycheck.
You can justify it however you like. He is serving Putin's interests. Even if he is doing honest journalism, he is just there to create the illusion that RT is a legitimate news source and now the propaganda network that it actually is.
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Response to Adrahil (Reply #30)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:00 PM
Trial_By_Fire (624 posts)
34. Bullshit.
Have the DU geniuses figured out that:
1) Hartmann is the Democratic patriot speaking on Dem values on RT? and 2) that, since nobody funds *true* Democratic talk and radio shows, he went on RT. And, his radio show is broadcast thru-out the world? |
Response to Trial_By_Fire (Reply #34)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:08 PM
bettyellen (47,209 posts)
37. So only Putin will give him a paycheck and that is good? WOW that's fucked up.
You don't think there's better people to work for? You've gone full fake news here. I gotta guess you trust Putin more than the American IC too? That would follow.
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Response to Trial_By_Fire (Reply #34)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:17 PM
Adrahil (13,340 posts)
42. Is he taking Russian money or not?
Ask yourself why Vladimir Putin would employ him.
Hint: it's not because he wants to advance journalistic integrity or Democratic values. |
Response to Adrahil (Reply #42)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:19 PM
Trial_By_Fire (624 posts)
44. I question anybody who questions Thom Hartmann...
Response to Trial_By_Fire (Reply #44)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:21 PM
Adrahil (13,340 posts)
46. Then you are doing it wrong.
I've listening to Thom, and have liked him. But if he has managed to convince himself that he isn't being used, then he is a fool.
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Response to Adrahil (Reply #46)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:21 PM
Trial_By_Fire (624 posts)
47. Who's the fool?
Response to Trial_By_Fire (Reply #47)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:22 PM
Adrahil (13,340 posts)
48. Hartmann. Thought that was clear. NT
Response to Trial_By_Fire (Reply #34)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:20 PM
emulatorloo (38,000 posts)
45. Hartmann could distribute on YouTube if he wished
Similar to TYT.
He's got choices. Doesn't need to be associated w Putin's propaganda mashine. I've suggested several decent options over the last several yrs to the intern who posts on DU under his name. Crickets... |
Response to emulatorloo (Reply #45)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:28 PM
Trial_By_Fire (624 posts)
50. Thom use to talk up DemocraticUnderground until....
...after the election day hack (and subsequent hack(s)) and people here started to bad mouth
him. I question *anybody* who questions Hartmann... |
Response to Trial_By_Fire (Reply #50)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:30 PM
emulatorloo (38,000 posts)
51. Hartmann fan here so give it a rest
Response to emulatorloo (Reply #51)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:32 PM
Trial_By_Fire (624 posts)
53. Beg your pardon?
I was not the person who started this thread...
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Response to Trial_By_Fire (Reply #53)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:40 PM
emulatorloo (38,000 posts)
61. "I question *anybody* who questions Hartmann"
You wrote that in yr response to me.
So it Seemed like you were addressing me as someone on your untrustworthy 'enemies list' If I misinterpreted then I misinterpreted I don't question Thom's progressive bonafides. I just don't know why he's still on RT. I believe it hurts his rep, I'd love for him to get off Putin Today. |
Response to Trial_By_Fire (Reply #34)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:35 PM
sharedvalues (6,916 posts)
56. RT is Russian propaganda.
Response to Docreed2003 (Original post)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 07:51 PM
Trial_By_Fire (624 posts)
8. Who was the 'fill in host'? Was it on the radio show or the TV show?
I question your interpretation that resulted in "he was lambasting the number of articles online and in mainstream media that are trying to connect the Trump campaign and the current administration to Russia, suggesting that much of it was fake in order to generate outrage from the left.".
Hartmann, for sure, wants a compete investigation into the Russian-Trump issue. And, on the radio, I never heard a fill in host talk like you suggested. It seems that all DUers do is to rag on people, even good/great Dems. |
Response to Trial_By_Fire (Reply #8)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:03 PM
Docreed2003 (12,560 posts)
12. If you're as big of a fan as you purport to be...
I would imagine you would know the answer your own question!
Friday, the radio fill in host was Sam Sacks. As I said in the Op, I'm happy to be corrected in my interpretation and I admit that I caught the rant mid-way through. I'm not trying to tear anyone down. I'm voicing sincere concerns, which I think are warranted considering the financing of the show. |
Response to Docreed2003 (Reply #12)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:09 PM
Trial_By_Fire (624 posts)
15. Of course I knew who the fill in host was...
I was wondering if YOU knew who the host was.
Obviously, you have not listen to Hartmann for the last 13 years as I have. He is as true blue as they come. I imagine his only 'crime' in some people's mind is that he was a Sanders supporter until the primaries were over and then was all in for clinton. DUer's really need to stick with real issues and get off of the 'people smearing'. |
Response to Trial_By_Fire (Reply #15)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:16 PM
Docreed2003 (12,560 posts)
16. Way to make a bunch of assumptions
If supporting Sanders is a crime, then I'm guilty as well! I would have you refer to my posts from the primaries for evidence because I was as big of a supporter of Sanders as anyone on here.
I realize Thom has been reliably blue, and I can assure you I've listened to most every program for the better part of 9 years, as long as I've had Sirius/XM. My concern was the rant and the accusation, as well as the funding of the show for RT. I think that's a fair concern, do you not? And I think that's a real issue, considering Thom's program is a source of information for many liberals |
Response to Docreed2003 (Reply #16)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:25 PM
Trial_By_Fire (624 posts)
18. No, I am not worried about Hartmann on RT...Why, because....
...Hartmann has full and total control on his radio show. To be honest, I do not watch Hartmann on RT
except to say that the few times I channel surfed to RT, he was basically doing his radio show on the TV. As an educated total FDR Democrat, Hartmann does nothing but GOOD for the Democratic causes and policies. It's his track record - Hartmann is a true blue, very intelligent, gifted talker for all Democratic causes and policies. If you have listen to Hartmann for 9 years, you should know his loyalties. |
Response to Trial_By_Fire (Reply #18)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:31 PM
bettyellen (47,209 posts)
20. Ahh the RT expert doesn't even watch it, lectures others on credibility! Interesting, LOL....
Response to bettyellen (Reply #20)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:34 PM
Trial_By_Fire (624 posts)
22. I listen to his radio show... And
...a few times I did catch a minute or two on RT he was doing his radio show on the TV.
Have you actually listen to Hartmann on his radio show or his TV show? Tell me when and what did he say that suggests that Hartmann is shilling for the goddamn Russians? Or have you never watched RT too? And if you have, why are you watching RT? |
Response to Trial_By_Fire (Reply #22)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:48 PM
sharedvalues (6,916 posts)
63. Dude. RT hired Hartmann on purpose
To bring in liberals. Because then the liberals are likely to listen to stuff before and after, and RT can influence ads during the show.
The problem is the bosses at RT. Hartmann can't fix them. He was hired for show and will be kept only as long as he is useful for propaganda purposes. |
Response to sharedvalues (Reply #63)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:54 PM
Trial_By_Fire (624 posts)
64. As usual, Hartmann is always one step ahead....
His tv show is Progressive Liberal and Democratic... He works his
ass off delivering the Progressive Liberal Democratic message even on RT. It is his way, I believe, to counteract any Russian propaganda. Get it? |
Response to Trial_By_Fire (Reply #64)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 10:21 PM
sharedvalues (6,916 posts)
66. RT hired him to court liberals
Standard propaganda trick. Embrace. Extend. Extinguish.
Hartmann's motives can be as white as the fresh driven snow, and they probably are. But RT uses him as a tool to court liberals that they then try to persuade with their other shows and by shading coverage. |
Response to Trial_By_Fire (Reply #15)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:26 PM
emulatorloo (38,000 posts)
49. Petty 'gotcha' games with your fellow DU'ers?
Nice!
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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #49)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:39 PM
bettyellen (47,209 posts)
60. The best stuff here is claiming RT is as legit as BBC, that's pure Putin right there....
And TYT is akin to MSNBC. Waaaaah!
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Response to Docreed2003 (Original post)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 07:51 PM
hrmjustin (71,265 posts)
9. I never trusted them from the moment RT came on the air.
Response to hrmjustin (Reply #9)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:35 PM
bettyellen (47,209 posts)
25. Suddenly their bogus crap was all over FB last year... that was the time for people who cared about
Their reputations to bail out. They're at best lenading the operation some credibility. Have people here comparing them to BBC now, LOL. And TYT w MSNBC! I wish I was making this up.
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Response to Docreed2003 (Original post)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:07 PM
Squinch (35,624 posts)
13. Uhhhh.... ya think?
Response to Docreed2003 (Original post)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:08 PM
Spider Jerusalem (21,266 posts)
14. Way way past time, anyone appearing on RT is on the Kremlin payroll
you may as well be getting your news from Tass or Pravda.
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Response to Docreed2003 (Original post)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:34 PM
wildeyed (11,240 posts)
24. RT is the propaganda arm of the Kremlin.
Anyone paid by RT is paid by the Kremlin. If you listen to anyone paid by RT, you are being manipulated by Russian propaganda. This is not a hard connection to make. Patriotic Americans just say no to Russian propaganda.
Good propaganda gently leads you down the trail by appealing to some of your innate bias and then nudging you in the direction they want you to go until you think that YOU thought of it yourself. It's insidious. I constructed a private Twitter list of RT and other Russian propaganda sources specifically to track what they are doing and sometime I find myself nodding along to an article that rings my bells in just the right way. They are very good at what they do. Beware. |
Response to Docreed2003 (Original post)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:41 PM
Else You Are Mad (3,040 posts)
28. Uhh, Thom Hartmann..
Steadfastly refuses to allow any discussion that insults Democrats. Please don't spread lies.
I really am wondering why certain and proven liberals have all of a sudden are being attacked? If you want to disregard Thom, then you are ignoring one of the only liberal radio hosts that is syndicated on terrestrial radio. Most talk show hosts on terrestrial radio are RWNJ hosts like Limbaugh, Savage, Levin, ad nauseum. That is interesting. |
Response to Else You Are Mad (Reply #28)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:49 PM
Docreed2003 (12,560 posts)
29. I'm neither insulting democrats or spreading lies...
It was on the radio show on Friday!
Voicing a concern about content on his show does not equate to an attack |
Response to Docreed2003 (Reply #29)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:54 PM
Else You Are Mad (3,040 posts)
31. Why I am concerned...
Is that Friday he had a guest host on his show. Thom was not on the air at all this week. So, he could not have said anything and you cannot accuse Thom of anything if it was a guest host.
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Response to Docreed2003 (Reply #29)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:10 PM
bettyellen (47,209 posts)
39. That guest host was Hartmans long time producer who worked for Sputnik as well as RT....
And we have a two people here comparing RT to BBC...
saying RT is better than American media groups. Surreal, isn't it? |
Response to bettyellen (Reply #39)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:34 PM
Docreed2003 (12,560 posts)
55. It definitely is surreal
Response to Docreed2003 (Reply #29)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:15 PM
bettyellen (47,209 posts)
41. Interesting you're be blamed for what RT does all day long.... and RT is compared to the BBC?
This is all Putin propaganda.
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Response to Docreed2003 (Reply #29)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:38 PM
sharedvalues (6,916 posts)
58. RT is propaganda from Putin
This is an information war and one of Putin's strategies is to divide the left by appealing to some of them on RT.
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Response to Docreed2003 (Original post)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:58 PM
Bucky (49,449 posts)
33. What the hell? Quit trusting RT? You might as well say "let's quit looking...
...under the table during Fox 'news' shows for beaver shots"!!
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Response to Bucky (Reply #33)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:14 PM
bettyellen (47,209 posts)
40. No Bucky- just no. Please clean up this trash, hostility to one woman is hostility to us all.
Response to bettyellen (Reply #40)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:19 PM
Bucky (49,449 posts)
43. I'm sorry. My hostility is toward the exploitation, not toward the exploitees
I plea the Frank Zappa defense. It's just words.
But yes, I agree we should denounce hostility to women. I think sarcasm is a fair way to do so. |
Response to Bucky (Reply #43)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:31 PM
bettyellen (47,209 posts)
52. Sorry Bucky- it's repulsive and it's not okay.
Response to Docreed2003 (Original post)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:33 PM
sharedvalues (6,916 posts)
54. What??? RT is Russian propaganda. All of it.
Response to Docreed2003 (Original post)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:38 PM
OilemFirchen (6,488 posts)
59. Just so you know, this was alerted for peddling right-wing talking points.
That's pretty rich, huh?
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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #59)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:42 PM
Docreed2003 (12,560 posts)
62. Wow...that's amazing
Thanks for the heads up
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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #59)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 10:05 PM
bettyellen (47,209 posts)
65. I KNEW that was coming w some of the slick framing here- "why you attack
"great Dem media" as presented by RT and TYT.
You can't make this shit up. |
Response to Docreed2003 (Original post)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:08 PM
SHRED (28,136 posts)
67. I like Thom
I think he should disassociate from RT.
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Response to SHRED (Reply #67)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:17 PM
Docreed2003 (12,560 posts)
68. Agreed...I wish he would as well. Nt
Response to Docreed2003 (Original post)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:18 PM
Cha (269,197 posts)
69. I never trusted them. Pawns for putin..
Link to tweet "When I came to the event for our company, Russia Today, and sat down at the table, next to me there was a gentleman sitting on one side," Putin continued. "I made my speech. Then we talked about some other stuff. And I got up and left. And then afterwards I was told, 'You know there was an American gentleman. He was involved in some things. He used to be in the security services' ... that's it. I didn't even really talk to him... That's the extent of my acquaintance with Mr. Flynn." http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/vladimir-putin-dinner-michael-flynn-i-didn-t-even-really-n768016?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma ![]() |