Joe Biden, Sit Down and Be Quiet

[NotMyFuhrer]

In an era where we need to look forward, to plan on how Democrats will take back BOTH the House and the Senate . . . the last thing we need is divisiveness and in-fighting!

Having said that . . . it can be argued that the reason Hillary lost was precisely BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU! Yes Joe, you!!

There are a lot of misguided insulated misfits running Congress. The voters in the US (AND FRANCE for that matter!) . . . by electing Trump (and Macron – a total outsider) . . . in effect said: POX ON BOTH YOUR HOUSES!

If you do not think there is an anti politician mood . . . just look at the popularity rating of Congress!

Unfortunately, Hillary could not live down . . was not able to shed . . . her "establishment" tint.

As in France, the mood in the US was for an "outsider"! As a confirmation of this, just look at the traction Bernie got!

There is widespread revulsion about Congress. We see mostly: Dysfunctional Politics, Confrontation, Extremism, Polarization, and extreme obstructionism!

In fact, you, Joe Biden are a good example of the adage that “We have the best politicians money can buy”!

For those people who do not know . . . YOU and your sons received huge funding from BANKS. You were the poster child for them getting their moneys-worth, when you personally twisted the hands of Democrats to support (in 2000) Bush's first legislative agenda, his number one initial priority . . . to gut the Bankruptcy Laws. You helped them undo 600 years of Old English Common Law!

You single-handedly helped Republicans re-write the protections for “average people”. To screw “the little people”.

Bankruptcy is now a sham and has been corrupted with your help! We are not dumb, we do not forget!

Again . . . you are part of the problem, so be part of the solution and retire! Take up painting as the person who you helped rewrite the Bankruptcy Laws is doing.






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[canetoad]

1. Meh

Joe's earned the right to say whatever he damn well likes.

[Skittles]

13. he hasn't earned the right for people to have to agree with him

he's always been MEH to me and now he is even less so

[virtualobserver]

33. Joe sees "onward together" for what it is....

the start of Hillary's 2020 campaign....and doesn't want her to gain an advantage over him.

[Gravitycollapse]

2. *Preaches against divisiveness* *Tells those they disagree with to sit down and be quiet*

Irony is what makes life enjoyable.

[NanceGreggs]

3. Nice try!

[kentuck]

15. :-)

clever one

[BannonsLiver]

4. ...

[LeftyMom]

5. Joe kept her from campaigning in the upper midwest,

installed the server in her basement and told her that Abedin was in no way a political liability?

Interesting! I had no idea.

[pnwmom]

6. No, but he wouldn't have won anyway. He didn't come close

in his previous runs, and there's no reason to think that Russia wouldn't have preferred their Trump puppet to Biden or anyone else.

And Biden has his own shadow: his treatment of Anita Hill in the Clarence Thomas hearings, which millions of women have never forgotten.

[BlueMTexpat]

9. Exactly!

But he remains a better candidate in his own mind.

Biden was a good Senator (except for his role in the Clarence Thomas confirmation) and he was an excellent VP. But he was not and never would have been a better.Presidential candidate than Hillary - except perhaps among white males.

[nkpolitics1212]

41. If Biden had ran in 2016, any chance he would have split the non liberal Democratic vote with HRC,

Allowing Bernie to win the Democratic nomination and the November General Election?

[Jim Lane]

47. It's unlikely, because the Democrats have no winner-take-all primaries

Some conservative Republicans thought that the equivalent of your scenario played out in 2008. In winner-take-all states, with several more conservative candidates splitting the right-wing vote, McCain (perceived as more centrist) won with a plurality, thus receiving all the delegates even though his more conservative opponents collectively had a majority of the votes.

Democratic Party rules, however, outlaw winner-take-all primaries and caucuses. If Biden had run, he would have taken votes mostly from Clinton, plus some from Bernie. Bernie's total share of the delegates would not have increased. At the convention, if neither Biden nor Clinton had a majority, the one who was doing worse would probably have endorsed the other, who would have been nominated. That would probably be Clinton, though perhaps Biden, but it's hard for me to see a scenario where Biden's entry into the race leads to Bernie being nominated.

[BlueMTexpat]

48. He

Did not run. Period.

You outed yourself with your "non liberal" descriptor.

[Gravitycollapse]

10. Lest we forget that millions of women voted for Trump.

I get your point. But I'm not sure his past actions would have had much impact on the overarching voting patterns amongst women.

[pnwmom]

11. Not all women. But millions who were teens and older during the hearings.

The image of that all-white-male Senate panel grilling Anita Hill made an indelible impression.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

35. Hahahaha!!! Good one!!

[LostOne4Ever]

7. Under the bus you go Joe nt

[Skittles]

12. he needs to go

he is NOT helping

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

36. I think Joe believes, with Obama's assent, that he IS helping...

I usually agree with you Skit... not sure on this one though.

[Skittles]

38. do you mean ascent

Biden is NOT HELPING

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

40. haha yes, too many beers waiting for my delayed flight at the airport.

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[democratisphere]

8. Joe Biden's behavior and mouth exemplifies why Democrats lose elections.

Democrats need to unite, not divide! Scratch one Joe Biden.

[NCTraveler]

14. He thinks he was the candidate.

Strange to even push that now. Most of those I've seen pushing it would be his harshest critics if he were to run considering he is economically to the right of Clinton. For Biden it is simply another example of his ego and lack of impulse control. For those spreading and promoting it, its to keep us fighting. I still love Joe. He is who he is.

[nikibatts]

16. Joe made a good Vice President. Period!

The damning with faint praise of HRC by many Democrats makes them even worse than some GOP haters. It's the termites eating away at the foundation that destroy a house.

[BlueMTexpat]

49. + a million or so! eom

[demmiblue]

17. ...

[PDittie]

19. Does it seem strange that

this post has either a) not been alerted upon, or b) actually survived a jury's vote?

It seems to me to be a very obvious and flagrant violation of DU's "no bashing Democrats" rule. By someone with 15 posts.

[BumRushDaShow]

20. Yeah

it seems like DI-like flame bait.

[demmiblue]

21. And people fall for it every time.

[caraher]

22. I'm certain that it has been alerted upon

And it does seem quite "bashy."

[PDittie]

23. And yet it remains visible.

With multiple recommends, even.

[trueblue2007]

25. Nothing happened. I think this is a BAD thread. How come it hasn't been removed.

Vice President Joe Biden is a national treasure and so is his buddy President Obama.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2944984.1484258378!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/gallery_1200/barack-obama-joe-biden.jpg

[sarisataka]

30. Gave up alerting long ago

I realized juries are completely unpredictable and flagrant TOS violations are allowed to stand.

[BannonsLiver]

31. I can confirm option "b".

And I agree with your assessment.

[pintobean]

45. It's like deja vu all over again

[Sunlei]

24. please quit carrying water for Republican party.

[L. Coyote]

27. Great Republican agit-prop

Can't we just impeach the orange?

[sarisataka]

28. Welcome to DU

And Good Luck

[Blue_true]

29. I am saddened by what Joe did. In 2020, we need to move on.

We have a good, strong bench and a lot of good new people running for office for the first time.

[Pisces]

32. Nope, Joe can say what he wants. Especially since he didn't run

To accommodate her.

[LOL Lib]

34. I still want to see uncle joe take Donnie out behind the gym.

Am I the only one?

[Demsrule86]

37. Stop dumping on Joe Biden, and your post is divisive.

[Warren DeMontague]

39. Thank you for your concern.

[DefenseLawyer]

42. New rule: those that lost to Donald fucking Trump in the worst election disaster of all time

Don't get to tell anyone else in the party to sit down and shut up ever again.

[JimGinPA]

43. .

[DiverDave]

44. Cross state voter purging

The fact the owners of the msm would make more money under a repuke administration.
So, 24-7 emails, 24-7 trump.

Get real, it wasn't Biden, or anyone else.
It was the media and the god damned russians.
To blame any one person is, just wrong.
And brings up your motivation for this thread.

[QC]

46. Obvious. n/t