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Singing the anthem: Are you doing it 'right'?
Lawmaker wants rules for performances at schools
Oh, say can you . . . sing?
And, more importantly, can you sing it the "right" way -- the way one Indiana lawmaker thinks the national anthem should be sung?
Sen. Vaneta Becker, R-Evansville, has introduced a bill that would set specific "performance standards" for singing and playing "The Star-Spangled Banner" at any event sponsored by public schools and state universities.
The law also would cover private schools receiving state or local scholarship funds, including vouchers.
Performers would have to sign a contract agreeing to follow the guidelines. Musicians -- whether amateur or professional -- would be fined $25 if it were deemed they failed to meet the appropriate standards.
http://www.indystar.com/article/20111230/LOCAL/112300334/Singing-anthem-you-doing-right-?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|News
barbtries
(28,789 posts)and what would happen to me? i can't carry a tune to save my life.
elleng
(130,895 posts)Them idjots are gonna get their heads handed to them in November, OK???
it's going to be a sight to behold.
ladywnch
(2,672 posts)proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)OMG
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)gkhouston
(21,642 posts)I actually can sing it, and that's unusual enough that people usually turn their heads to see who the heck is singing.
elleng
(130,895 posts)Chiyo-chichi
(3,579 posts)Rick Moranis, SCTV
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Last edited Tue Jan 3, 2012, 06:25 PM - Edit history (1)
Fantastic, Mel! Fantastic!
Best. Ever. Eh?
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)This one would have just incurred a Stupid Shit fine (which, in his case, would be tripled for Extra Stupid).
Uncle Joe
(58,355 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)authoritarian guidelines.
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Everybody should screw it up and sing it in front of his house and office.
TheWraith
(24,331 posts)The one we have right now is not a song, it's a poem not intended to be sung. And worse yet, it's a poem set to the tune of a British drinking song.
We should make our national anthem The Stars and Stripes Forever by Sousa. That way we never again have to listen to some celebrity who can't sing butcher the thing.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)...a war poem set to the tune of a drinking song? War and beer set to a tune no average person can properly sing--that, to me, embodies the U.S.A.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)There's a reason it's almost always played rather than sung. Look at some of these phrases: "Martial note in triumph float" (float? Seriously?) "Fervid elation" "Let eagle shriek from lofty peak" --or alternately, "Let eagle cry from mountain high" ??? And I'd sooner slit my throat then sing: "It's a beacon for all who share our dream of a new day without domination/It's the hope of the peoples now oppressed and a symbol of their own emancipation."
I'll take "rockets' red glare" and "bombs bursting in air" (silly as those are) over these any day. Besides, listening to it sung make me feel like I should be wearing a straw hat and seersucker suit. Here is one version of the song sung:
And here's a different version of the lyrics for perusal.
***
Let martial note in triumph float
And liberty extend its mighty hand
A flag appears 'mid thunderous cheers,
The banner of the Western land.
The emblem of the brave and true
Its folds protect no tyrant crew;
The red and white and starry blue
Is freedom's shield and hope.
Other nations may deem their flags the best
And cheer them with fervid elation
But the flag of the North and South and West
Is the flag of flags, the flag of Freedom's nation.
Hurrah for the flag of the free!
May it wave as our standard forever,
The gem of the land and the sea,
The banner of the right.
Let despots remember the day
When our fathers with mighty endeavor
Proclaimed as they marched to the fray
That by their might and by their right
It waves forever.
Let eagle shriek from lofty peak
The never-ending watchword of our land;
Let summer breeze waft through the trees
The echo of the chorus grand.
Sing out for liberty and light,
Sing out for freedom and the right.
Sing out for Union and its might,
O patriotic sons.
Other nations may deem their flags the best
And cheer them with fervid elation,
But the flag of the North and South and West
Is the flag of flags, the flag of Freedom's nation.
Hurrah for the flag of the free.
May it wave as our standard forever
The gem of the land and the sea,
The banner of the right.
Let despots remember the day
When our fathers with might endeavor
Proclaimed as they marched to the fray,
That by their might and by their right
It waves forever.
***
Couldn't we just appropriate "The Internationale"? "Arise ye Prisoners of Starvation?" That's got an awesome tune and not so bad lyrics.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)While I am a big fan of Sousa, I never knew this song actually had lyrics.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)For a duck may be somebody's mother...."
Silver Swan
(1,110 posts)I commented that it would help it the people singing actually were familiar with the song. Sometimes I think they never sang it before they perform it as a solo.
My spouse then admitted he had never sung "The Star Spangled Banner," not even as a child. He never learned the words.
I admit I was surprised, but if his experience is common, it's no wonder so many singers mess it up.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)at the same time to express the appropriate response to this kind of idiocy. <double facepalm>
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)Sen. Vaneta Becker, Moron-Evansville, will not succeed in getting anything more than some minor publicity for this bill. Silliness.
LeftishBrit
(41,205 posts)I think there was a satirical song by the 'Capitol Steps' group once that satirized Republican super-patriotism, and included a suggestion for criminal penalties for those who sing 'The Star Spangled Banner' offkey. It's sad when satire becomes reality!
tanyev
(42,552 posts)Ja wohl!
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)fuck it up on purpose.
How fucking dare anyone, including the government, fuck, especially the government, assume that they can determine what is "right" for music. The last fucking person on the planet who should be deciding how a song should be sung is a fucking politician.
Does anyone seriously think that this idiot really cares about music or even the song itself? This is just more fucking "In God We Trust", time wasting crap, designed to show the sheep how "patriotic" the Republicans are while avoiding doing anything to actually improve the living conditions for the majority of Americans.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)Oh, I guess not. It's from a Republican state legislator.
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)would meet the standards, but boy did he rock it! And he knew the words.
My fave!
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)betharina
(330 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,339 posts)Since this is already the law in Michigan, I could be fined for thinking the anthem starts "Jose can you see?" and ends with the words "Play ball!"
Bucky
(54,003 posts)I think maybe we also need laws regulating what clothes you can wear while singing the national anthem, too. Our forefathers did not freeze at Mount Vernon in order for us to sing the national anthem while wearing inappropriate and unpatriotic clothing.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)I can sing it, but years ago I learned a version where you sing it one syllable off, like this:
Oh say, can you see, by
The dawn's early light, what
So proudly we hail'd at the twilight's last gleaming? Whose
Broad stripes and bright stars through
The perilous fight, o'er
The ramparts we watched were
So gallantly streaming? And
The rockets' red glare, the
Bombs bursting in air, gave
Proof through the night that
Our flag was still there. Oh,
Say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave o'er
The land of the free and
The home of the brave?
You end up one note short. Sen. Becker probably would not find this rendition amusing.
motely36
(6,299 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Everything else falls short.
Dyedinthewoolliberal
(15,571 posts)an example of small government at work........................................ (searching for the sarcasm thingy)
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)No way they can enforce musical standards, says this lawyer and musician.
surrealAmerican
(11,360 posts)I'm thinking most schools would play it safe, and just sing "America the Beautiful" instead.
rustydog
(9,186 posts)Where was your outrage when the GOP fuc*ed up the reading of the constitution in the House.
How much are you willing to FINE Boehner for orchestrating that laughing stock of performance art?
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)I can understand the desire to not to have them inflicted on us any more. Unfortunately, there is no way to properly legislate this, so we are just stuck booing the bad performances.
Even some of the CD recordings used for the Olympics have been a little embarrassing.