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 Glenn Greenwald is an asshat for his support of Ron Paul. (Original post) |
MineralMan | Dec 2011 | OP |
| MFrohike | Dec 2011 | #1 | |
| MineralMan | Dec 2011 | #11 | |
| MFrohike | Dec 2011 | #21 | |
| Luminous Animal | Dec 2011 | #36 | |
| TheWraith | Dec 2011 | #105 | |
| MFrohike | Dec 2011 | #113 | |
| TheWraith | Dec 2011 | #115 | |
| MFrohike | Dec 2011 | #117 | |
| Post removed | Dec 2011 | #122 | |
| proud2BlibKansan | Dec 2011 | #51 | |
| TheWraith | Dec 2011 | #108 | |
| Hassin Bin Sober | Dec 2011 | #2 | |
| Luminous Animal | Dec 2011 | #7 | |
| gratuitous | Dec 2011 | #9 | |
| MineralMan | Dec 2011 | #12 | |
| Luminous Animal | Dec 2011 | #14 | |
| Hassin Bin Sober | Dec 2011 | #19 | |
| JackRiddler | Dec 2011 | #102 | |
| hfojvt | Dec 2011 | #17 | |
| MineralMan | Dec 2011 | #34 | |
| Hassin Bin Sober | Dec 2011 | #49 | |
| oberliner | Dec 2011 | #99 | |
| FSogol | Dec 2011 | #3 | |
| Ikonoklast | Dec 2011 | #4 | |
| MineralMan | Dec 2011 | #27 | |
| Ikonoklast | Dec 2011 | #39 | |
| MineralMan | Dec 2011 | #40 | |
| Ikonoklast | Dec 2011 | #46 | |
| MineralMan | Dec 2011 | #63 | |
| Luminous Animal | Dec 2011 | #5 | |
| Hassin Bin Sober | Dec 2011 | #13 | |
| arely staircase | Dec 2011 | #18 | |
| Luminous Animal | Dec 2011 | #41 | |
| arely staircase | Dec 2011 | #58 | |
| JackRiddler | Dec 2011 | #103 | |
| arely staircase | Dec 2011 | #118 | |
| JackRiddler | Dec 2011 | #119 | |
| arely staircase | Jan 2012 | #125 | |
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| MineralMan | Dec 2011 | #20 | |
| Luminous Animal | Dec 2011 | #28 | |
| arely staircase | Dec 2011 | #60 | |
| Luminous Animal | Dec 2011 | #64 | |
| arely staircase | Dec 2011 | #66 | |
| Luminous Animal | Dec 2011 | #72 | |
| arely staircase | Dec 2011 | #75 | |
| dionysus | Dec 2011 | #6 | |
| Luminous Animal | Dec 2011 | #8 | |
| MineralMan | Dec 2011 | #24 | |
| Hassin Bin Sober | Dec 2011 | #84 | |
| Tierra_y_Libertad | Dec 2011 | #10 | |
| MineralMan | Dec 2011 | #15 | |
| UnrepentantLiberal | Dec 2011 | #26 | |
| MineralMan | Dec 2011 | #29 | |
| UnrepentantLiberal | Dec 2011 | #31 | |
| Cameron27 | Jan 2012 | #126 | |
| proud2BlibKansan | Dec 2011 | #52 | |
| Luminous Animal | Dec 2011 | #16 | |
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| MineralMan | Dec 2011 | #30 | |
| Luminous Animal | Dec 2011 | #33 | |
| proud2BlibKansan | Dec 2011 | #22 | |
| seaglass | Dec 2011 | #25 | |
| MineralMan | Dec 2011 | #32 | |
| Luminous Animal | Dec 2011 | #35 | |
| MineralMan | Dec 2011 | #38 | |
| seaglass | Dec 2011 | #42 | |
| Luminous Animal | Dec 2011 | #53 | |
| JackRiddler | Dec 2011 | #104 | |
| frylock | Dec 2011 | #37 | |
| Luminous Animal | Dec 2011 | #45 | |
| Romulox | Dec 2011 | #43 | |
| WilliamPitt | Dec 2011 | #44 | |
| Luminous Animal | Dec 2011 | #47 | |
| WilliamPitt | Dec 2011 | #56 | |
| bvar22 | Dec 2011 | #109 | |
| Robb | Dec 2011 | #67 | |
| Luminous Animal | Dec 2011 | #77 | |
| Robb | Dec 2011 | #81 | |
| Luminous Animal | Dec 2011 | #86 | |
| Robb | Dec 2011 | #88 | |
| Luminous Animal | Dec 2011 | #90 | |
| Robb | Dec 2011 | #91 | |
| Hassin Bin Sober | Dec 2011 | #82 | |
| Robb | Dec 2011 | #89 | |
| hlthe2b | Dec 2011 | #71 | |
| BootinUp | Dec 2011 | #48 | |
| Poll_Blind | Dec 2011 | #50 | |
| BootinUp | Dec 2011 | #55 | |
| Poll_Blind | Dec 2011 | #57 | |
| BootinUp | Dec 2011 | #61 | |
| Poll_Blind | Dec 2011 | #65 | |
| BootinUp | Dec 2011 | #68 | |
| Poll_Blind | Dec 2011 | #73 | |
| BootinUp | Dec 2011 | #83 | |
| Post removed | Dec 2011 | #87 | |
| joeybee12 | Dec 2011 | #54 | |
| Poll_Blind | Dec 2011 | #59 | |
| hlthe2b | Dec 2011 | #62 | |
| Rex | Dec 2011 | #69 | |
| SomethingFishy | Dec 2011 | #70 | |
| Rex | Dec 2011 | #74 | |
| SomethingFishy | Dec 2011 | #79 | |
| Rex | Dec 2011 | #80 | |
| Tarheel_Dem | Dec 2011 | #76 | |
| Major Hogwash | Dec 2011 | #78 | |
| Puregonzo1188 | Dec 2011 | #85 | |
| Warren DeMontague | Dec 2011 | #92 | |
| Agony | Dec 2011 | #93 | |
| Hassin Bin Sober | Dec 2011 | #96 | |
| sandyd921 | Dec 2011 | #94 | |
| Karmadillo | Dec 2011 | #95 | |
| girl gone mad | Dec 2011 | #97 | |
| JackRiddler | Dec 2011 | #106 | |
| mzmolly | Dec 2011 | #98 | |
| valerief | Dec 2011 | #100 | |
| Robb | Dec 2011 | #101 | |
| Cali_Democrat | Dec 2011 | #107 | |
| got root | Dec 2011 | #116 | |
| DevonRex | Dec 2011 | #110 | |
| Odin2005 | Dec 2011 | #111 | |
| Major Hogwash | Dec 2011 | #121 | |
| Fuddnik | Dec 2011 | #112 | |
| TheKentuckian | Dec 2011 | #114 | |
| JackRiddler | Dec 2011 | #120 | |
| joshcryer | Dec 2011 | #123 | |
| MichaelMcGuire | Jan 2012 | #124 |
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:06 PM
1. You really should have picked a better quotation
Response to MFrohike (Reply #1)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:13 PM
MineralMan (120,954 posts)
11. This post was not about my opinion of Greenwald,
Response to MFrohike (Reply #21)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:36 PM
36. Proof? Mineral Man doesn't need no stinkin' proof. It's just his opinion that Greenwald supports
Response to MFrohike (Reply #21)
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 02:50 PM
105. Bullshit. Paul supports war with Iraq, Iran, abortion bans, and criminalizing homosexuality.
Response to MFrohike (Reply #113)
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 04:52 PM
115. "Personally, I don't much care for the attacks on his views on social policies."
Response to MineralMan (Reply #11)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:51 PM
51. Your opinion is clouding your judgment
Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #51)
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 02:51 PM
108. No, he just sings his praises as a good choice for liberals.
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:07 PM
2. You and I have a different definition for the word "support."
Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #2)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:15 PM
MineralMan (120,954 posts)
12. Yes, I suppose we do.
Response to MineralMan (Reply #12)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:17 PM
14. Election Season: where the simple-minded can't distinguish between
Response to hfojvt (Reply #17)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:32 PM
MineralMan (120,954 posts)
34. I've seen stranger things taken as support.
Response to hfojvt (Reply #17)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:47 PM
49. To anyone with a brain larger than, say, a pea?
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:09 PM
4. Greenwald is an asshat for supporting Citizen's United.
Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #4)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:26 PM
MineralMan (120,954 posts)
27. That, too, but again not the point of my OP.
Response to MineralMan (Reply #27)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:39 PM
39. I agree. I just expressed my opinion, too.
Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #39)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:40 PM
MineralMan (120,954 posts)
40. I demand nothing. I simply respond to your reply.
Response to MineralMan (Reply #40)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:44 PM
46. I love reading your OP's. They end up being the most circular threads ever.
Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #46)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:07 PM
MineralMan (120,954 posts)
63. Thanks!
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:10 PM
5. Is there any other candidate promoting the end of the war on drugs, the end of
Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #5)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:19 PM
18. Or who has had his very own racist newsletter? Nt
Response to arely staircase (Reply #18)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:40 PM
41. That is true. But that has nothing to do with the theme of Greenwald's article
Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #41)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:00 PM
58. No it was not the theme of the article
Response to JackRiddler (Reply #103)
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 06:49 PM
118. David Duke may be in favor of Medicare for all and free college tuition. Who could possibly care?
Response to JackRiddler (Reply #119)
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 01:40 PM
125. I can only name one who published his very own white supremacist newsletter. Ron Paul.
Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #5)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:20 PM
MineralMan (120,954 posts)
20. I saw that sig line. It's interesting that you missed the point of my post
Response to MineralMan (Reply #20)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:26 PM
28. Your title clearly states that Greenwald supports Paul. Greenwald says otherwise.
Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #28)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:03 PM
60. No but if that was the thing you chose to
Response to arely staircase (Reply #60)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:10 PM
64. Another person who did not read the article. That quote isn't even close to the focus.
Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #64)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:17 PM
66. I know his focus was the surveillance state
Response to arely staircase (Reply #66)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:32 PM
72. I posted the wrong link. Below is the correct one.
Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #72)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:39 PM
75. Greenwald makes a valid point.
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:12 PM
6. well put. but hey, his shtick has an audience, and it's how he makes his living. i think a lot of
Response to dionysus (Reply #6)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:13 PM
8. Except for the fact that it is untrue.
Response to dionysus (Reply #6)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:23 PM
MineralMan (120,954 posts)
24. I admire his ability to earn a living with his words.
Response to MineralMan (Reply #24)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 06:07 PM
84. I hope you don't start your HVAC articles with ...
Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #10)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:18 PM
MineralMan (120,954 posts)
15. No, it does not mean that at all. It means that I have quoted an
Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Reply #26)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:27 PM
MineralMan (120,954 posts)
29. I have no idea what you are trying to say.
Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #10)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:19 PM
16. Greenwald has repeatedly said that he does not endorse Paul.
Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #10)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:22 PM
23. Link to the article... (edited to add the correct link- it's the 1st one)
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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #23)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:28 PM
MineralMan (120,954 posts)
30. Yes, I know that. He was writing for someone. Writers often do that.
Response to MineralMan (Reply #30)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:31 PM
33. Tierra_y_Libertad asked for a link. I provided it.
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:22 PM
22. I was born in MO. You're going to have to show me how that is support.
Response to seaglass (Reply #25)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:30 PM
MineralMan (120,954 posts)
32. Someone else wrote a post about freedom of expression
Response to MineralMan (Reply #32)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:33 PM
35. Some people say that Obama was born in Kenya. But heh! They are simply
Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #35)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:38 PM
MineralMan (120,954 posts)
38. Yes, some do say that. You know it is not true.
Response to seaglass (Reply #42)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:54 PM
53. Funny. He wrote his own headline and used the 1st paragraph to
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:37 PM
37. looks like more of an opinion than an endorsement or support..
Response to frylock (Reply #37)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:43 PM
45. Shhhh. Don't let facts get in the way of truthiness.*
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:42 PM
43. I suspect a semi-coordinated attempt to link being anti-War, anti-Drug War, anti-Bankster bailout
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to Ron Paul. As if most of us didn't have these values before Paul began espousing them.
I notice the OP doesn't even attempt to address the substance of the assertion. He goes straight not name-calling.  |
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:42 PM
44. I don't get
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when anyone with a functioning brain who isn't to the right of Ghengis Khan supports Ron Paul.
The man is a snake-oil salesman, but somehow he has the mojo to snow even smart people like Greenwald. Everyone's desperate for a hero, I guess. Sad. For the record, I'm a huge Greenwald fan. Robert Scheer also barfed up a "Ron Paul is for reals" piece yesterday. So that's two writers I deeply respect who somehow don't see this failure of a human for what he is. 
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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #56)
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 02:53 PM
109. How about giving "good Ink" to:
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*anti-war,
*anti-Surveillance-State, *anti-crony-capitalism, *and anti-drug-war ....positions on these issues, and helping project these into the National Debate? Is that "in you"? |
Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #47)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:17 PM
67. Greenwald fucked up, his perceived support of Paul was unpopular. He backpedaled
Response to Robb (Reply #67)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:40 PM
77. Nope. He wrote two paragraphs on Paul in a 20 paragraph article
Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #77)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:47 PM
81. I realize he was merely using it as a foil to get a mention of Gary Johnson in.
Response to Robb (Reply #81)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 06:15 PM
86. Its not his fault that there are plenty of mindless dolts.
Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #90)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 06:34 PM
91. Careful, you might hurt my internet feelings.
Response to Robb (Reply #67)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:50 PM
82. and never admitted succumbing to the biggest temptation on the internet.
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Oh now you're an anti-porn, eh?
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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #82)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 06:27 PM
89. *snort*
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I find the biggest temptation on the internet is that which compels me to spend far too much time watching one adorable animal after another doing something cute and unexpected on YouTube. Next thing I know it's the afternoon and I've gotten nothing done.
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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #44)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:31 PM
hlthe2b (68,605 posts)
71. Like the broken clock--accurate twice a day I just don't equate analysis of positions with support
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Would I like to have seen him discuss all the very negative aspects to Paul--who I agree with you, is little more than a snake-oil salesman, a racist, misogynist, and selfish narcissist? Absolutely. Nonetheless, I guess those who are concluding Greenwald "supports" Paul, must have seen more comments than this to draw that conclusion.
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Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:46 PM
48. On the scale of "assholes like Greenwald can say what they want"
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 04:49 PM
50. If you're using just that quote to interpret support for Paul your argument is not convincing.
Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #57)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:04 PM
61. Any number of politicans that don't blatantly lie about their political positions/views.
Response to BootinUp (Reply #61)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:15 PM
65. That's not an answer and trying to turn me into a Paul supporter so you can scuttle off is weak.
Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #65)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:22 PM
68. It was an answer and an explanation. You wish to establish
Response to BootinUp (Reply #68)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:33 PM
73. LOL, what you're missing is I already agree that Paul's a shit. As I've said, I agree...
Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #73)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:56 PM
83. The only reason you (and others) agree with it
Response to joeybee12 (Reply #54)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:01 PM
59. Exactly. So projecting that Greenwald somehow supports Paul is...
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:05 PM
hlthe2b (68,605 posts)
62. Sorry, MM... but Greenwald providing analysis of Paul's positions does not equate to support of Paul
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Please show me where he has endorsed Ron Paul. I have areas of disagreement with Glenn Greenwald, but I don't believe you have accurately nor fairly characterized his position in this case.
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Response to Rex (Reply #69)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:28 PM
70. LMAO.. there is none...
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The OP put that in his title then further down the thread explains how he didn't really say that...
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Response to SomethingFishy (Reply #70)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:33 PM
74. I know...
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just thought I would help 'make a point' along with almost everyone else in this thread.
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Response to Rex (Reply #74)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:41 PM
79. LOL.. I knew you knew...
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I was just helping
Not only that but that quote... I looked it up, it's actually Andrew Sullivan's quote, Greenwald was quoting him. Not that the quote isn't accurate, it is, but just keeping up with the spirit of things... |
Response to SomethingFishy (Reply #79)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:45 PM
80. All this Ron Paul talk is forcing me to
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post this bad dub on you tube
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Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:39 PM
Tarheel_Dem (28,866 posts)
76. Despite who he does or doesn't support "Glenn Greenwald is an asshat", period. The end.
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Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:41 PM
78. Geez, and he wasn't even on American Idol!
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 06:09 PM
85. Why don't you post a link to the entire article that quote came from? So maybe people can see the
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 06:35 PM
Warren DeMontague (80,708 posts)
92. I'm anti-war, anti-crony capitalism, anti-Surveillance State and anti-drug war. AND I'm pro-choice
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 06:37 PM
93. _I_ avoid supermarket ground beef.
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 06:49 PM
94. Some points about Greenwald, Paul, Obama, and my own take
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 06:55 PM
95. The kind of respectful post that has made DU what it is today. Go MM! Go MM!
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 09:24 PM
97. "Greenwald is an asshat!" "Taibbi is an uneducated idiot!"
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 09:26 PM
mzmolly (47,826 posts)
98. He's also anti-civil rights
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 01:54 PM
100. Where's the "support" part of your claim? You know, aside from whether Paul is the most anti." nt
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 02:26 PM
101. Greenwald responds: MineralMan is "simple-minded."
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 02:55 PM
110. Just had to kick this back up. And ITA. nt
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 02:56 PM
111. Saying that a broken clock is right twice a day is not "support".
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 03:59 PM
112. Look what Greenwald wrote under "simple minded"!
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 04:46 PM
114. That isn't "support". It has to be granted that two out of four are easily arguable.
Response to TheKentuckian (Reply #114)
Sat Dec 31, 2011, 11:35 PM
123. I don't think it's support, I think GG truly believes Paul believes those things.
