democratic platform 2016 re: WOMEN and reproductive and other rights

[niyad]

(so tell me again, how can a politician claim to be a dem while ignoring the Democratic Party Platform????????)


Guaranteeing Women’s Rights
We are committed to ensuring full equality for women. Democrats will fight to end gender
discrimination in the areas of education, employment, health care, or any other sphere. We will combat biases across economic, political, and social life that hold women back and limit their opportunities and also tackle specific challenges facing women of color. After 240 years, we will finally enshrine the rights of women in the Constitution by passing the Equal Rights Amendment. And we will urge U.S. ratification of the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women.

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Securing Reproductive Health, Rights, and Justice
Democrats are committed to protecting and advancing reproductive health, rights, and justice. We believe unequivocally, like the majority of Americans, that every woman should have access to quality reproductive health care services, INCLUDING SAFE AND LEGAL ABORTION, regardless of where she lives, how much money she makes, or how she is insured. We believe that reproductive health is core to women’s, men’s, and young people’s health and wellbeing. We will continue to stand up to Republican efforts to defund Planned Parenthood health centers, which provide critical health services to millions of people. We will continue to oppose and seek to overturn federal and state laws and policies that impede a woman’s access to abortion, including by repealing the Hyde Amendment. We condemn and will combat any acts of violence, harassment, and intimidation of reproductive health providers, patients, and staff. We will defend the ACA, which extends affordable preventive health care to women, including no-cost contraception, and prohibits discrimination in health care based on gender. We will address the discrimination and barriers that inhibit meaningful access to reproductive
health care services, including those based on gender, sexuality, race, income, disability, and other factors. We recognize that quality, affordable comprehensive health care, evidence-based sex education and a full range of family planning services help reduce the number of unintended pregnancies and thereby also reduce the need for abortions.
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http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/papers_pdf/117717.pdf

[Demsrule86]

1. Yes...this is our platform...and social justice is progressive.

[Eliot Rosewater]

2. Is this about Sanders?

You dont want to know my theory about him and Thom.

[niyad]

3. only partly. this is in reference to speaker pelosi's comments yesterday.

[Eliot Rosewater]

4. I know Bernie said we need to bring in those including anti

women, what did Pelosi say? Nothing coming up in google search.

But like I said, these repeated examples from him and his pal on the radio dont surprise me and they all add up to...


OH sure, Thom (oops) doesnt say this same thing that I know of, or does he? Does he also think we should ignore certain positions?

[niyad]

5. here:

Pelosi: ‘Of Course’ You Can Be a Democrat and Against Abortion

by Kailani Koenig

WASHINGTON — Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi says that it's absolutely possible for someone to be a member of the Democratic Party and also be against abortion.

. . . .

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/pelosi-course-you-can-be-democrat-against-abortion-n749856

[Eliot Rosewater]

6. One exception...and it may be relevant to why this is now happening

So I will be consistent, if you have TWO candidates (because we have a TWO party system and there are ALWAYS only two) and one is a dem and one is a con and they are BOTH anti women, then common sense says we have to vote for the dem.

But I only say this here to be consistent, because like it or not, as VILE as anti choice is as a position, a democrat caucuses with the democrats and unless the person is anti everything liberals are for, then ...you have to...otherwise you....you know the rest.

I will say all this WHILE I remind you that I not only think Bernie is out to lunch on this and other stuff, that he is so for very specific reasons most of us simply cant accept yet.

REMEMBER there is a REASON Pelosi says this, and I just explained it. But I dont want to argue with you because I am with you actually, it is just that in the exact circumstances I describe, we have what we have, dont we?

I am asking.

[niyad]

7. I understand what you are saying. but I will NEVER give my stamp of approval (vote) to ANY

asshole who says that I do not have a right to personal, bodily autonomy. I don't give a flying **** what letter is after the name. I will write in my own if I have to.

Sorry, that argument has never worked for me.

[Eliot Rosewater]

8. Respect that, for sure. And as a man, it is easier for me to say it. So I totally get it.

Can you believe this is 2017? Still arguing about women's health?


and

I had to go to a fucking march on Saturday for SCIENCE! I had to take time out of my day to POINT Out that SCIENCE is important!

What a nightmare we live in.

[niyad]

9. not only are we still arguing, the stakes have escalated almost daily. as for the science marches,

the fact that they, like the women's marches, are even necessary is appalling and disheartening.

[PDittie]

10. Happens all the time

...Democrats already have people in office who oppose federal funding for abortions and late-term abortion rights, or who define themselves as personally opposed to abortion.

This faction includes several senators up for re-election next year and tenuously clinging to red state turf: Sens. Joe Manchin (W.Va.), Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.), Bob Casey (Pa.) and Joe Donnelly (Ind.). Abandoning them when Democrats are desperately trying to retake control of the Senate would be political malpractice.

While these senators hold views that pro-choice activists deem antithetical to their objectives, their ascension paradoxically occurred in concert with the Democratic Party’s deepening commitment to abortion rights. Two of the four were elected to the Senate for the first time in 2012, when the Democratic convention was as vociferous about reproductive freedom as ever, and the platform was rewritten to explicitly support federal funding of abortions.

{...}

The four red state Democrats simply expressed their opposition to the platform and won their states anyway, defeating far more socially conservative Republicans. Meanwhile, national party officials didn’t go out of their way to spotlight their “pro-life” candidates, which would have muddled their national message and hampered the base turnout needed to re-elect Barack Obama.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/04/24/why_are_democrats_fighting_each_other_over_abortion_133687.html

And before you throw rocks at the source, check the author of the piece.