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ThatOtherPerson

(12 posts)
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 10:58 PM Apr 2017

Sean Hannity delcared his world view

Tonight Hannity was on with Newt Gingrich. Hannity declared "The World is an evil place."

That phrase caught my ear.

One definition of Right Vs. Left is "The right believes people are mostly bad and need to be punished. The left believes people are mostly good and sometimes need help."

And Hannity actually called the world an evil place.

I actually feel slightly sorry for Hannity, but not as sorry as I feel for the millions who have been harmed by the policies he espouses.

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grantcart

(53,061 posts)
7. Hannity did NOT go to a seminary.
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 12:03 AM
Apr 2017

Seminaries are post graduate accredited institutions that give Masters and Doctoral degrees.

Hannity went to a high school that put Seminary in the name, St. Pius X Preparatory Seminary high school. It was a PREPATORY school for people who were intent on going to seminary.

Hannity flunked out of 3, yes 3, college programs.

St. Pius X Preparatory Seminary high school is to seminary as Trump University is to a real University.

Azathoth

(4,609 posts)
4. The world IS an evil place
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 11:39 PM
Apr 2017

Almost half of the country voted for a guy whose campaign was based on bashing Mexicans and Muslims. A majority of the supposedly enlightened UK voted for the EDL's wet dream.

You can call it a self-fulfilling prophesy, but the conservative view of humanity IS more realistic. When conservatives whine, for instance, that people will abuse social welfare programs, they aren't lying, because deep down they know THEY would do it if they had the opportunity.

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
9. A very very small percentage of people I have known fit that description
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 12:47 AM
Apr 2017

Most of them are good, hard-working, and honest. And I've lived in all four corners of the country, and am in my 50's.

People are basically good, in my experience, so I'm a liberal, naturally. And that is being completely realistic - as in, basing my views on what I have actually experienced, rather than what I saw on TV or read on the internet.

Azathoth

(4,609 posts)
11. Not to be flippant, but I'd argue there could be some self-selection bias in what you say
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 01:21 AM
Apr 2017

Decent people tend to associate with other decent people and exclude scumbags from their lives. When I was younger, I wholeheartedly subscribed to the "few bad apples" view of humanity. Like you, I looked and around and saw that most of the folks I knew were good-hearted people. But as I've gotten older, I've looked back and come to realize that I actually did come across plenty of selfish and bad people, but I never paid them any mind other than what was required to get away from them. I never allowed them to become relevant to my life, and as a result my own personal sampling of humanity was biased towards "good" people. And, looking at it dispassionately, I can't say how many of them were truly good as opposed to just being ostensibly good.

As I posted before, I'd argue that the Trump dumpster fire is a great example. I can't believe that only a small fraction of 60+ million who voted for him understood what he truly stood for. Most of them knew, but they rationalized it or ignored it for various reasons, and once that curtain close behind them they pulled the lever for a guy they knew would attack and hurt tens of millions of their fellow Americans. And that's what I'm trying to get at: to me, being a "good" person means doing more than working hard and being nice to your neighbors. It means doing the right thing even when no one is looking and it's not necessarily in your own best interest or what you find the most emotionally satisfying. I think there are far fewer people like that than liberals want to admit, which is why we are perpetually shocked when shit like Trump happens.

 

Charles Bukowski

(1,132 posts)
5. The world is an evil place in no small part to
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 11:44 PM
Apr 2017

American right-wing conservatism.

The followers of this loathsome ideology literally just put a psychopath in the WH, and trash like Hannity and Gingrich pushed them to do it. Scumbags.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
6. Hannity and his ilk believe you fight evil with what essentially amounts to evil.
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 11:50 PM
Apr 2017

The world can be an evil place. I would never generalize it one way or the other. I'm not into binary thinking.

But they not only believe its evil, they believe they are exclusively qualified to be the fighters against their perception of evil and that no matter what they do in terms of that effort, whatever they do is never evil.

And they operate this way with a tragically flawed understanding of what is or is not evil.

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
8. It is that simple
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 12:42 AM
Apr 2017

The "right" believes people are basically evil, lazy, dishonest, etc.

If you believe people are basically good, honest, hardworking, then you're a "liberal". Which, by the way, means "free", as opposed to a slave or servant.

 

Jonny Appleseed

(960 posts)
10. I believe the world is an evil place but our jobs as humans is to transcend that
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 12:49 AM
Apr 2017

with sociological progress and advanced civilization. Humans are intrinsically beasts so we must defy the primitive desires coded into our DNA if we wish to be anything more. Casting aside things like greed, lust, violence is what demonstrates that humans are something completely different. Something meaningful and unlike anything found in a rational Darwinian model.
But this is just the ideology that has given existence some kind meaning for me who does not believe in any form of higher power.

nil desperandum

(654 posts)
13. The world
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 10:09 AM
Apr 2017

is largely apathetic as to what happens to any group or individual.

That can feel quite evil however when one group is busy slaughtering another group. A world that routinely kills millions through violence isn't likely to be considered a "good" world if one views it all through such prisms as good and evil.

We humans like to pretend we are something special and above the animal kingdom, but our history across the world since our beginnings would suggest that we too are far more likely to be red in tooth and claw than we are to be gentle, caring, and "good".

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