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Millions Risk Losing Health Insurance in Republican Plan, Analysts SayBy ABBY GOODNOUGH and REED ABELSONMARCH 7, 2017
Martha Brawley of Monroe, N.C., said she voted for President Trump in the hope he could make insurance more affordable. But on Tuesday, Ms. Brawley, 55, was feeling increasingly nervous based on what she had heard about the new plan from television news reports. She pays about $260 per month for a Blue Cross plan and receives a subsidy of $724 per month to cover the rest of her premium. Under the House plan, she would receive $3,500 a year in tax credits $5,188 less than she gets under the Affordable Care Act.
Im scared, Ill tell you that right now, to think about not having insurance at my age, said Ms. Brawley, who underwent a liver biopsy on Monday after her doctor found that she has an autoimmune liver disease. If I didnt have insurance, these doctors wouldnt see me.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/07/health/risk-of-losing-health-insurance-in-republican-plan.html
SharonAnn
(13,772 posts)And she thought Trump would give it to her? He couldn't care less about people like her.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)because she thought the con man was gonna give her a good deal.
Piss on her.
Her stupidity and hateful attitude towards humanity will not only ruin her life but mine and my family as well.
atreides1
(16,076 posts)Her own greed and stupidity, put her in this spot, but it also put other people in a jam...and she didn't give two shits about them!
HAB911
(8,890 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)she will turn off Faux News and stop believing the repukes. Either that or she'll just die. Great way to purge the people who don't support Li'l Donnie.
Kimchijeon
(1,606 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)actually thinking a rich POS, draft dodging, lying sack of shit, racist, pussy grabbing REPUBLICAN was going to help them out....it just blows my mind!
How do these people live being that ridiculously stupid????
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)more and that is why she is getting less.
We have the Plutocrats who own the media and the politicians who are able to manipulate the ignorant into serving the ends of the Plutocrats. We can be mad at idiots like this woman but it doesn't get us anywhere!
We need to all join together to get the money out of our politics. It needs to be the goal of every Progressive to cut off the ability of corporations and the extremely wealthy to buy our politicians. That means taking back control of both houses of Congress, the WH, and the state houses. Donald Trump may give us the opportunity to do just that if we all focus together on the root cause of most of our problems.
When we do take back control wee need to bust up the media and banking oligarchies and require the truth in the news! No more, "It's Entertainment" bull sh*t. We must eliminate their propaganda so they cannot use the ignorant against us!
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Come on now, you're not being fair here. tRumputin cares for the lady in NC.
Because NOTHING says "I'm for the middle-class, the working poor, single Moms and for making SURE that everyone has health quality health care/insurance" like this picture below dripping with nothing BUT love & compassion:
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)It way to easy to be a con man in America. SMH
HAB911
(8,890 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,853 posts)that only those who voted for Trump would be subject to his new health care.
And Ms Brawley deserves what she gets. She clearly wasn't paying any attention to anything to have voted for Trump. With all due respect, if she dies in the street that's what she voted for.
I am so freaking tired of people like her saying "Oh, gosh! I had NO idea!!" Well, fucking pay attention when you vote.
KingBob
(150 posts)Golly gee! I had no idea! Damn right. She is clueless. Bet you a dollar to a day old doughnut that not only did she not vote, she isn't even registered to vote.
tblue37
(65,340 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)anti Education dog whistles and decided none of it applied to her, so she got all registered up and voted for Trump. She said screw everyone else, now she could well die because of her views. She could be looking at a liver transplant, not an inexpensive procedure.
Charles Bukowski
(1,132 posts)That one time he spewed incoherent gibberish related to healthcare, or that other time he spewed incoherent gibberish related to healthcare?
You voted for bigotry and hate, ma'am, and now you're getting it. Make America White Again!
Good healthcare? That wasn't part of the deal.
Kimchijeon
(1,606 posts)Maybe like you said, he probably spewed some incoherent gibberish related to healthcare a couple times. That's the extent of it.
And now we all get to suffer the consequences.
standingtall
(2,785 posts)She said she couldn't afford insurance before the ACA,but she can barely afford it now,but she thought Trump would make it better? Seriously did these people actually listen to anything Trump said about this besides sound bites of him saying he would cover everybody. Pretty sure he was promoting health saving accounts,buying insurance across state lines. Getting rid of mandates etc. Anyone with half a brain could of told you you cannot do what he was proposing and cover everybody or make it better.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)everybody would be covered, cheaper than "Obamacare" it would require a massive govt program to benefit the public.
You know, the very thing the republicans hate to do! How many times did the republicans in Congress try to gut the ACA when Obama was prez? More than once that's for sure and yet these stupid racist rubes actually thought Trump, the leader of the republican party, was going to help them out!
not fooled
(5,801 posts)He spewed platitudes about how he would have a great plan that would cover everyone for less. No specifics. You had to be extremely stupid to fall for it. Oh wait, his voters ARE...
Throw in years of demonizing and lying about the ACA on the part of Faux and the 'pukes and this is what you get.
I just hope dumpcare is in fact DOA in Congress.
davsand
(13,421 posts)I wish I could muster even a tiny shred of sympathy for her, but I'm just not that good of a person. F**k her and every other voter that voted for him. We'll all die together, but you beeter know I intend to outlive you and I may even manage to laugh while you all die.
Buyer's remorse is kinda painful ain't it...
liquid diamond
(1,917 posts)And I agree 100% 😃
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)She's the recipient of her own karma.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)She was willing to see the "others" oppressed, discriminated against, victimized by hate crimes etc because Adolf Trump promised her better health care.
She deserves the shit sandwich the damn republicans are going to serve her.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)She could not afford insurance when the Repukes were in then a Democrat comes in and she can afford insurance. Now, what in the hell made her think another Repuke would give her insurance? She voted to not have insurance.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)tcbrola
(16 posts)and sell her iPhone.
reflection
(6,286 posts)You shot yourself, and the rest of us, in the foot. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and piss off.
keithbvadu2
(36,788 posts)Don't be scared Mrs Brawley.
The Donald will fix it for you.
He said it would.
That's what you wanted; Trumpcare.
More_Cowbell
(2,191 posts)I have no sympathy. I feel sorry for the people who paid attention, didn't vote GOP and are getting screwed.
I also feel like if this ACA repeal doesn't happen quickly (if the GOP succeeds in making most of the harm visible AFTER the 2018 election) these uninformed voters will continue to elect Republicans.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Republican leadership know that ACA repeal and replacement will hurt their voters the most and are trying to delay until after 2020 elections, when Democrats may have to face the shitstorm republicans caused. Their dumb voters will stay with them in 2018 and 2020 unless they get punched up side the head really, really hard. Brilliant and vilely evil doing the delay.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)the needed lifeline of people who didn't vote for Trump.
She hurt herself and a whole lot of other people. I want for her to understand that.
I do feel bad that ignorance can kill. I do feel bad that people vote against their own interests. I find it mind-boggling that anyone thought a billionaire real estate developer would know anything about the lives of regular Americans. With everything Trump said on the campaign trail, they knew this would happen. He told them.
For years the GOP has done little else besides repeatedly voting to repeal the ACA. Weren't they paying attention? People are now supposed to feel sorry for them because they couldn't stop hating long enough to realize that Obamacare and the ACA were the exact same thing?
No one should have to die from lack of healthcare, not even those I disagree with (and it goes well beyond mere disagreement) - but mostly I feel bad for the people that they have hurt with their ignorance, with their hate, and with their vote.
What I feel for the Trump voter is mainly anger. Trump lied to them. The GOP lied to them. They lied to themselves. But in the end, they will find a way to blame Democrats and Liberals, immigrants, African-Americans, LGBT, and women. They'll blame the "liberal media", but never once will they blame themselves.
Martha Brawley put her hope in a man who said he would repeal Obamacare. She put her hope in a political party that made it plain as day they would repeal Obamacare. She betted her life on it.
Worse, she betted the lives of others on it.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)FEH to her and her kind.
Fifty-five is old enough to know what the two Parties are about.
TNLib
(1,819 posts)But at the same time pissed they threw us under the bus because of their own hatred and ignorance.
Ohioblue22
(1,430 posts)this is what you voted for. you thought trump would go after "those" people and bullsht on your more affordable insurance you were paying only 260 a month..
well you get what you vote for or youre stuck with what you didnt vote for
how often did she yell lock her up or call our potus a n'er. how often did yell maga in some "libtard's " face. lady i think the term youre looking for is screwed unless the dems save your ass or maybe it's maga. either way youre screwed
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Yet, Democrats are the only ones that can save what could be her life, given her liver issues.
Ohioblue22
(1,430 posts)JenniferJuniper
(4,512 posts)I do not have an infinite reserve these days and and non-Trump supporters take priority.
meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)Up until now, there have been Dem presidents, dem controlled senates since the early 2000s. Those dems have buffered the republican voters from the real republican agenda. Now there is no buffer, there is no one to stop the republican agenda freight train bearing down on all of us.
They have safely voted for republicans for many years because someone (dems) protected them from themselves. Now they are finally going to get to see what they've been voting for all of these years.
I just feel sorry for all of the voters who knew better who will suffer because of so many voters stupidity and gullibility.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)I just wish we didn't have to pay the price along with these hateful republican voters.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)I so agree with you. Those stuck in red states who knew what time is WAS and who didn't vote for tRumputin will be suffering.
In fact, nothing but love & compassion for ALL of us in Red & Blue states which tRumputin wants to "punish" for various reasons.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)won't end up saving those republican voting assholes once again, only to be bitten as a reward.
raccoon
(31,110 posts)Great post.
Johonny
(20,841 posts)because you can't fix stupid
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)voucher clutched in her dying hands first.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Because what she did not only affected herself but millions of other people too.
SHE did this. SHE has blood on her hands too. Millions will suffer greatly because of her and people like her. Yeaa, No sympathy.
There is only so much ignorance 1 person can claim.
You know who I feel sorry for? People that voted against this pathological liar in chief. They will be suffering. My heart breaks for them.
progree
(10,904 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)March 4th
(80 posts)This is what they get for being stupid.
TheOther95Percent
(1,035 posts)My husband's plan didn't cover my specialist so I get my health insurance through my employer. My pre-tax contribution is $300 per month. I think that's a great deal. My medical costs last year ran into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. All covered.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)So far, I have been an Insurer's wet dream, not young anymore, but healthy with no inherited disease and not one broken bone.
TheOther95Percent
(1,035 posts)Until last year, I hadn't been in a hospital for nearly 50 years. Healthy as a horse until I wasn't.
MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)for tens of millions of us before the deplorables will understand what they've done to themselves and to our country. Many will never get it before they die for lack of quality care. Many of us who do understand will die too.
DFW
(54,370 posts)But I have trouble feeling pity for people whose willful, proud ignorance put the USA in this awful mess we're in.
Many will have to die slow deaths before they figure out that the shoe drop to "America First" was "Americans Last."
My answer to Martha Brawley and her kind is, "You did this to yourself. You did this to me. You did this to our country, and in all likelihood, you would do it again, given the chance. Do your doctors have to throw you out into the street before you would consider changing your mind?"
Akamai
(1,779 posts)and repeatedly. They were pretty damned silent on Trump's lies, used "both sides do it" logic, used Republican swamp-fever logic to castigate Hillary, etc.
And if the media don't correct themselves, it will happen again and again.
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)the writing was on the wall with Trump. He has done everything he said he would.
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)Republican vote r who voted for Trump but even ran for public office and lost but got cancer and her ass was saved.
The Sand Reckoner
(194 posts)They are getting exactly what they wanted and exactly what was promised them.
No more sympathy for stupid and bigoted.
Cadfael
(1,296 posts)This is the very first time she voted!
yardwork
(61,599 posts)She and her husband voted for Mr. Trump the first time she had voted in her life she said, because I thought he would make it better.
cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)sympathy are the ones that had common sense and voted for Hillary.
Cha
(297,196 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)You cast votes that end up hurting you, and you only have yourself to blame.
Or for those who voted for HRC, you only have the ignorant to blame.
Damn do we have a lot of ignorant people in this country.
Vinca
(50,269 posts)die because of her ignorant vote.
Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)They voted for this.
They shat the bed, now they have to lay in it.