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NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 12:36 AM Feb 2017

TPM - Josh's turn at Sater - "Learning Eye-Popping Details About Mr Sater"

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/learning-eye-popping-details-about-mr-sater

By JOSH MARSHALL Published FEBRUARY 19, 2017, 10:53 PM EDT

As I noted in my previous post, I've been keenly interested in Donald Trump's association with Felix Sater going back to last Spring. I also knew he had been an FBI informant and leveraged that status to dramatically reduce his sentence in a major financial crime. I didn't realize until this evening that there were more details about this part of the story in the public domain than I'd realized. It's rather mind-blowing.

First, let's review a bit about Felix Sater. Sater was born in the Soviet Union in 1966 and emigrated to the US with his parents at the age of 8. He is an American citizen. He dropped out of college and began a stock broker. But in his late 20s he got into bar fight where he stabbed a fellow broker in the face with a shattered glass. He did time in prison for this attack. After he got out he got involved in a major securities fraud scheme (basically a 'pump and dump' operation) tied to the Genovese and Colombo crime families. He got caught. And that's where things get interesting.

After Sater got busted, somehow he managed to offer his services to the FBI and supposedly the CIA to work on their behalf purchasing stinger missiles and other weapons on the then wild and free-wheeling Russian black market. Whatever Sater was doing for the CIA in the black market arms smuggling world seems to have become much more important after 9/11 - thus Sater's high value to the US government.

I know that sounds all but incredible. The details of Sater's alleged work for the CIA are contained in this September 2012 article in The Miami Herald. A good bit of the story emerges from an account by Sater's accomplice, Salvatore Lauria. Lauria was Sater's accomplice in the pump and dump scheme and was also there the night he stabbed the guy in the face at the bar. And yes, we'll hear more from him in a moment. Because was also involved with Sater and Trump in the Trump SoHo building project.

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TPM - Josh's turn at Sater - "Learning Eye-Popping Details About Mr Sater" (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Feb 2017 OP
Kick for more eyeballs... nt scarletwoman Feb 2017 #1
sater has an interesting history.. thank you for this, NRaleigh Cha Feb 2017 #2
Trump has been rumored to be mixed up with the mafia up to his eyeballs for many years NoGoodNamesLeft Feb 2017 #3
Trump was involved with the Mafia...you had to be back then Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #7
Wow. He's really interested in this. Barack_America Feb 2017 #4
And now Cohen has changed his story. Damage control. randome Feb 2017 #5
Good info, thanks, Mr. Marshall and NRaleigh. rec, Nt Mc Mike Feb 2017 #6
 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
3. Trump has been rumored to be mixed up with the mafia up to his eyeballs for many years
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 05:05 AM
Feb 2017

My gut instincts keeps telling me that Trump is owned by the Russian mafia and I don't think they have even scratched the surface of what has happened. There are bits of information out there scattered around and lots of dots that have yet to be connected, but if they get connected then I think all hell will break loose.

Here is what I think is going to be exposed...

Trump beholden to the Russian mafia after being loaned money by them. This involvement is likely through money laundering and human trafficking of young and underage Slavic women/girls. Look up Tevfik Arif. I think that Trump's involvement with the Russian mafia has been well documented by Putin and the Russian government and that he is either a willing partner who is involved through and through or he got in over his head after borrowing money and now is being threatened if he doesn't do what he's told.

I also think there is a very good chance that Jeffrey Epstein is somehow involved in helping to collect blackmailing material over the years....or at least was before getting caught as a pedophile. I don't have any proof of any of this stuff...just gut instincts.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
7. Trump was involved with the Mafia...you had to be back then
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 11:01 AM
Feb 2017

if you were involved in his businesses...my own Dad worked in the building industry and told me never owe them a favor. They liked my Dad ....most people liked my Dad...born salesman.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
4. Wow. He's really interested in this.
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 10:09 AM
Feb 2017

He wrote it as if he were in a rush to get it out. I doubt he's the only one coming out with a story on this.

I wouldn't be surprised if one of the big print organizations also has something brewing.

Marshall's apparent rush to make it into the footnotes of history is the most exciting thing about this.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
5. And now Cohen has changed his story. Damage control.
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 10:13 AM
Feb 2017
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/cohen-shifts-into-damage-control

With The New York Times story about Michael Cohen and Felix Sater gaining more attention, Cohen has made an abrupt shift into damage control.

The Washington Post published a follow-up to the Times story about an hour ago. Most of it tracks with the Times reporting. But Cohen changed his story from what he'd told the Times. He told the Times that he received the 'peace plan' from Sater and the Ukrainian parliamentarian in a sealed envelope and delivered it to the White House. Now he claims that he received the envelope with the 'peace plan' but accepted it only as a courtesy and never did anything with it. The meeting, he now claims, lasted a mere 15 minutes.

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