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About that "coup" theory. (Original Post) blogslut Jan 2017 OP
Agree. They are literally hurling feces right now. jpljr77 Jan 2017 #1
Well, not literally, I hope. Mister Ed Feb 2017 #25
Well worth reading in its entirety, IMHO. Raster Jan 2017 #2
Great read underpants Jan 2017 #4
The negative perceptions fit the OPA psych manipulation technique. joshcryer Jan 2017 #3
Interesting. And Cambridge Analytica was founded by Robert Mercer. octoberlib Jan 2017 #6
That's how I see it as well. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #20
Yeah, I kind of wish they were plotting a coup. butdiduvote Jan 2017 #5
It's already accomplished. The question is, annabanana Jan 2017 #14
Exactly. nt 2naSalit Feb 2017 #30
"...no one is there to stop them..." Eleanors38 Jan 2017 #18
Oh it was a coup all rignt. No one thinks trump and Bannon pulled it off brush Jan 2017 #7
YOu got it. And we still have a lot of voting machine issues too but Dems never seem to want Amaryllis Feb 2017 #27
to be fair, if Trump knew he had stolen vote counts in the bag from hacked machines MrPurple Feb 2017 #29
IMO trump knew Putin was working to help him. The other stuff with Crosscheck and repug election ... brush Feb 2017 #31
I disagree because... LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #8
A little humor from the madman who is John Lurie. bathroommonkey76 Jan 2017 #9
I totally agree. These are stooges fumbling in the dark. Nitram Jan 2017 #10
They coordinated the seats of power in the biggest super power on earth LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #11
Which "seats of power?" They don't even have a cabinet yet. Nitram Jan 2017 #12
Oh...not much...just all three branches of government. nt LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #15
Right. Seems to me part of how he got elected was because too many thought he was Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #21
You mean it was as if the entire world thought HRC was going to win? Rex Feb 2017 #23
Come on. Get serious. That's not trump's doing, or a white supremacist web site manager's doing. brush Feb 2017 #34
I am serious. I think he's crazy like a fox LaydeeBug Feb 2017 #36
I believe the reaon most people vioted for Trump was because they are scared to death of Nitram Feb 2017 #38
Not all Americans are anti-immigrant but for the most part I agree. brush Feb 2017 #40
No, of course they aren't, and neither are all Trump supporters. Nitram Feb 2017 #41
How sad is it that this makes me the most hopeful I've been since annabanana Jan 2017 #13
Attributing coups, shock deflections, or any Machiavellian act to this gaggle of buffoons LanternWaste Jan 2017 #16
Agreed, the biggest asset democrats and pro-freedom folks have is the RW's incompetence. Eleanors38 Jan 2017 #17
This doesnt make me feel better Tiggeroshii Jan 2017 #19
So true, that's why they did such with Russia's help... alone they'd fuck up a wet dream uponit7771 Jan 2017 #22
First we accepted 2000 when one party cheated. Rex Feb 2017 #24
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2017 #35
Nincompoops. C_U_L8R Feb 2017 #26
Hitler was a complete failure as a leader and military tactician... VOX Feb 2017 #28
Dixiegrrrl posted an interesting link Mountain Mule Feb 2017 #32
I do firmly believe that they are loving all the chaos because no one is talking links to Putin nikibatts Feb 2017 #33
That tweet misses the point... Whiskeytide Feb 2017 #37
I'm throwing my "they aren't idiots" hat in the ring justiceischeap Feb 2017 #39

jpljr77

(1,004 posts)
1. Agree. They are literally hurling feces right now.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 02:54 PM
Jan 2017

There is no master plan or secret agenda or larger conspiracy at work. It's just pure id, the same id that led many sane people to, let's say, intellectually stumble in November.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
3. The negative perceptions fit the OPA psych manipulation technique.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 03:15 PM
Jan 2017

Which is how they got the Breexit vote to happen, which is how they got Trump elected.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/5qubcp/donald_trump_replaces_military_chief_on_national/dd27ge9/

Yes, very much so, having "failed so much" is actually part of the way that they intend to take power and more power and more power.

The only question that remains in my mind is whether we will be able to resist it given the design of the system. I think so. But it'll be rough.

butdiduvote

(284 posts)
5. Yeah, I kind of wish they were plotting a coup.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 03:22 PM
Jan 2017

Maybe plotting a coup could actually get him impeached and his team thrown out. They just don't know what they're doing, and no one is there to stop them from behaving so stupidly because the voters gave them total control. I miss having people with brains running my country. God do I miss Hillary's intelligence right now.

brush

(53,784 posts)
7. Oh it was a coup all rignt. No one thinks trump and Bannon pulled it off
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 03:33 PM
Jan 2017

Hell no. No one thinks those two are that smart, and they're proving it by the mess they've made in ten days in office.

Try the combination of Comey, Putin, Assange, various state Secretaries of State employing Crosscheck and other voter

suppression methods of POC votes — that's who pulled it off.

trump was even flabbergasted that he "won".

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
27. YOu got it. And we still have a lot of voting machine issues too but Dems never seem to want
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:28 AM
Feb 2017

to pay any attention to that.

MrPurple

(985 posts)
29. to be fair, if Trump knew he had stolen vote counts in the bag from hacked machines
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:39 AM
Feb 2017

he'd purposely act surprised when he won

brush

(53,784 posts)
31. IMO trump knew Putin was working to help him. The other stuff with Crosscheck and repug election ...
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:57 AM
Feb 2017

officials all over the country trying to suppress the POC is what repugs always do. It was nothing that trump engineered at all, it's what they do.

Telling them not to is like telling a fish not to swim.

Yeah trump was surprised. He can thank all of those repug crooks. Comey especially.

Nitram

(22,803 posts)
10. I totally agree. These are stooges fumbling in the dark.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 03:57 PM
Jan 2017

They have no knowledge of the levers of power. They couldn't coordinate a putsch. They couldn't coordinate a kid's birthday party. They are only good at propaganda, misinformation, disinformation and lies. Amateur Hour at the White House. This is going to be a case of "the harder the come, the harder they fall." The damage they will do in the meantime aside, make a great Marx Bros movie.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
11. They coordinated the seats of power in the biggest super power on earth
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 03:59 PM
Jan 2017

and you think they're bumbling?

Nope. They're shock doctrining.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
21. Right. Seems to me part of how he got elected was because too many thought he was
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 11:47 PM
Jan 2017

too much of a joke to do so. He's a joke alright, but it's not funny.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
23. You mean it was as if the entire world thought HRC was going to win?
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:03 AM
Feb 2017

Yeah I remember that happening, I was there. You are correct he is a joke, but not in the funny way.

brush

(53,784 posts)
34. Come on. Get serious. That's not trump's doing, or a white supremacist web site manager's doing.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:09 AM
Feb 2017

They were just there and benefited from the repug vote suppression machine/Crosscheck/vote hacking and Comey.

Putin helped. trump was aware that Putin was working for him but all the rest ... nah, he was just in the right place at the right time.

It could've been Cruz or Kacish or Jeb, whoever got the nomination.

trump and Bannon? Hah! Give us a break.

What genius listens to a white supremacist web site manager and makes him his chief advisor and puts him on the NSC?

Not smart.

Look at how they've screwed up in their first 10 days in office.

Nitram

(22,803 posts)
38. I believe the reaon most people vioted for Trump was because they are scared to death of
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 03:39 PM
Feb 2017

Muslims and immigrants. America has always had a streak of xenophobia. Just look at the internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII, and the many restrictions on immigration in our history including Jews, eastern Europeans, Chinese and numerous other nationalities and ethnicities.

brush

(53,784 posts)
40. Not all Americans are anti-immigrant but for the most part I agree.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 03:50 PM
Feb 2017

My point though was trump is only in the White House, and Bannon, the white supremacist is only chief advisor and on the NSC because the repugs have internalized cheating to the umpth degree.

Those two don't get the credit for gerrymandering, interstate crosscheck, vote suppression of POCs, Comey's letter and Russian interference in our election.

Nitram

(22,803 posts)
41. No, of course they aren't, and neither are all Trump supporters.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 03:55 PM
Feb 2017

But I'll bet it was a large percentage based on discussions I'm having with Trump supporters.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
16. Attributing coups, shock deflections, or any Machiavellian act to this gaggle of buffoons
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 05:33 PM
Jan 2017

Attributing coups, shock deflections, or any Machiavellian act to this gaggle of buffoons is on the same plane of absurdity as Gilligan and the Skipper being the secret cabal of composers behind Schubert's sonatas.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
17. Agreed, the biggest asset democrats and pro-freedom folks have is the RW's incompetence.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 05:33 PM
Jan 2017

Neverthess, many is the slip twixt the cup and the lip, and we should be vigilant for major disruptions and violent attacks at a minimum.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
19. This doesnt make me feel better
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 06:20 PM
Jan 2017

...just more confirmation we are being by incompetent insaneasylum escapees. It would be of a modicum of comfort to think they actually know what they are doing. Even if it is entirely evil.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
24. First we accepted 2000 when one party cheated.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:05 AM
Feb 2017

Now we accept a foreign power helping when one party wins. Funny thing, it is always the same party! Always those ratfucking GOPers!

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
26. Nincompoops.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:14 AM
Feb 2017

Agree Trump is just not very smart and the rest of his cabal,
in spite of all their mean-nature, are total screwups.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
28. Hitler was a complete failure as a leader and military tactician...
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:35 AM
Feb 2017

He was nuts and on something like 75+ medications per day. But his Brownshirts and SA/SS muscle, his propaganda, his cadre of ghouls and a compliant citizenry allowed him to wreak maximum death and destruction, including, in the end, to his own country and fellow-citizens.

Not saying Trump & Bannon are Adolf and Goebbels, or some sort of masterminds, but they should never be underestimated in regard to the lasting damage they can wreak on this country.

The push-back has to be strong and unrelenting. Not a moment should be lost to demoralization. Just dig in an fight harder. Do not yield an inch to these deplorable bastards.

Mountain Mule

(1,002 posts)
32. Dixiegrrrl posted an interesting link
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:58 AM
Feb 2017

in her thread she about the "trial balloon for a coup" thing.

Weak and Incompetent Leaders act like Strong Leaders
https://tompepinsky.com/2017/01/30/weak-and-incompetent-leaders-act-like-strong-leaders/

That was very interesting reading and certainly Traitor Trump's behavior's are a classic example of those of someone with a malignant narcissistic personality disorder. Does this mean that he's actually weak? Perhaps. In my ramblings across the Internet, I have come across articles written by respected psychologists who disagree about this point. They agree he's a narcissist, but disagree about the etiology behind his narcissism which could be a deep inner dark hole (weak) or else a soullessness which would render him ruthless (strong). Who can really say?

However, a panic driven, weak narcissist can wreck as much or more damage than a strong dictator. Push him or attempt to back him in a corner and he'll respond with a primal fury that springs from his deep seated loss of self which must remain hidden and protected at all costs. Since a narcissist has no moral compass, no empathy or compassion, he can commit horrible atrocities and never lose a single moment of sleep or admit to even the smallest of wrong doings. I'm no psychologist - just throwing a few things I have been reading - that are well sourced - out there for consideration.

The other thing - I believe it was Mineralman who posted about this - is that the Traitor's antics will keep us all distracted while the Republican party led by piranhas like Paul Ryan tear apart the very fabric of country with no one to stop them and the Koch brothers cheering them on. We need to watch what's happening closely and take the time to sift the truth from the lies and beware of Cheshire Cats.

 

nikibatts

(2,198 posts)
33. I do firmly believe that they are loving all the chaos because no one is talking links to Putin
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:04 AM
Feb 2017

and Russian oligarchy. The media has forgotten about it and we are not even talking about it. I thought Maxine Waters was about to blow the lid off something related to this but that too fizzled.

Trump does not deserve to make this SCOTUS appointment because of the way he won the election and because far more citizens voted against him than for him.

We are once again being played by the entertainer-in-chief. Even the Democrats in the Senate and House are forgetting about it. We must admit, they are good at what they do and we are fools for falling for it. I literally sent out tweets, emails, and letters to Democratic Senators raising the issues of alleged links between Russia and Trump staff before during and after the election, the misbehavior of the FBI Director, and the thrashing of our Intel service by Trump. I receive responses from no one. Not even to the many Tweets sent. And we wonder why the GOP and Trump won this past election.

Not one Democratic spokesperson that I have seen these past 8 days has even mentioned this in interviews except for Maxine Waters and John Lewis.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
37. That tweet misses the point...
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 11:11 AM
Feb 2017

... The battle over the length and girth of his inauguration crowd has been occurring in the media, stoked by Spice bombs and other surrogates. It's a distraction. A useless fight with no goal - or actually with an irrelevant outcome. There will be more manufactured controversies rolled out as soon as that ones dies down.

I'm not saying it's 11th dimensional chess, but these people are definitely NOT idiots. They are accomplishing a lot of very bad things in an incredibly short period of time - and they want much of it to remain well below the radar. And - true to form - we're sitting back and proclaiming "yeah, but he exaggerated the size of his crowd"!

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
39. I'm throwing my "they aren't idiots" hat in the ring
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 03:47 PM
Feb 2017

One thing I've always given 45* credit for is being a marketing genius.

He is...otherwise, he would have been "Donald Who?" We all knew about him for years (God, too many years) and that's all about his marketing genius.

As such, a marketing genius can look at the "market" (in this case, the people) and figure out what resonates and he did that beautifully in this campaign--he tapped into what people are not only saying they want but how they feel.

He also managed to tap into the discontentment of the Democratic party over Hillary Clinton, causing a portion of our Party or folks who would vote with our party, to sit this one out. He played all of that quite well and those that don't give him credit in that arena do so at their own detriment.

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