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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 12:54 PM Dec 2011

Undoctored photo from Kim Jong Il's funeral

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North Korean news agency 'doctors photo of Kim Jong-il's funeral procession'

The death of North Korean leader Kim Jong-il provoked scenes of such extreme public grief that many commentators doubted the veracity of the mourners.

Now new evidence has emerged of the lengths the Pyongyang regime will go to in order to choreograph memorials to the departed dictator.
As hundreds of thousands of people packed into Kim Il-sung Square in the heart of the capital, one image from Japanese news agency Kyodo showed a funeral cortege led by a limousine carrying the departed 69-year-old’s photograph.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/8982164/North-Korean-news-agency-doctors-photo-of-Kim-Jong-ils-funeral-procession.html
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Undoctored photo from Kim Jong Il's funeral (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Dec 2011 OP
That totalitarian motherfucker got AT-ATs? HughBeaumont Dec 2011 #1
Joseph Goebbels is smiling from Hell. Lint Head Dec 2011 #2
Government manipulation of facts prepperdad Dec 2011 #3
Also, I believe the Beatles' faces have been airbrushed into A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2011 #4
Yeah I know but I thought mine was funnier.. notice Ichingcarpenter Dec 2011 #6
Pods like Body Snatcher Pods? A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2011 #7
close up photo.... Ichingcarpenter Dec 2011 #9
Whats more interesting is the line of people behind the crowd Confusious Dec 2011 #11
Wow, I guess Kim Jong was ILL after all. :) Sorry, I had to do that. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #5
Olbermann did it first: "Kim Jong Il has been downgraded to Kim Jong Dead." 1monster Dec 2011 #14
After the extreme public grief in the UK over Princess Diana, I can believe the behaviour muriel_volestrangler Dec 2011 #8
From the documentaries I've seen over the years on NK Ichingcarpenter Dec 2011 #10
What's striking to me gratuitous Dec 2011 #12
Great point. lapislzi Dec 2011 #13
Definitely programmed responses that reflect a shared expectation of behaviour. Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #16
I watched it too on line Ichingcarpenter Dec 2011 #17
I am calling Bullshit, no way do they have that nice a car Motown_Johnny Dec 2011 #15

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
1. That totalitarian motherfucker got AT-ATs?
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 12:58 PM
Dec 2011

I want genetically reconstructed MASTODONS at my procession, Damn it!!



. . . or just the band would be nice . . .

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
2. Joseph Goebbels is smiling from Hell.
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 01:06 PM
Dec 2011

His legacy of evil manipulation of the news and media lives with us today and not just in North Korea.

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,596 posts)
4. Also, I believe the Beatles' faces have been airbrushed into
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 01:13 PM
Dec 2011

the snow in the pic on the right where the men are missing.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
9. close up photo....
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 01:32 PM
Dec 2011


On edit..... this isn't photoshopped or fake. They are in both photos... they do look like pods.

Confusious

(8,317 posts)
11. Whats more interesting is the line of people behind the crowd
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 01:57 PM
Dec 2011

Probably taking names of those who don't show enough grief.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,438 posts)
8. After the extreme public grief in the UK over Princess Diana, I can believe the behaviour
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 01:25 PM
Dec 2011

is 'genuine' - if the media tells you for 17 years that everyone loves this person, then many people believe it of themselves. Propaganda really can work over a period, especially if you don't have access to opposing viewpoints. At least the UK allowed non-Diana worshipping viewpoints, and look how seriously some supposedly phlegmatic people took her death.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
10. From the documentaries I've seen over the years on NK
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 01:38 PM
Dec 2011

I believe the grief was real since they have known nothing else in their lives.

If one is barraged from birth to death with only one view
one history, one man.....day in day out.

The documentaries were pretty sobering.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
12. What's striking to me
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 02:03 PM
Dec 2011

What's striking to me is the cheek it takes for folks in our country to ridicule the goings-on in North Korea after our own week-long necrogasm over The Death of Ronald Reagan, sponsored by 20-Mule Team Borax. While we may not send folks to re-education camps for an inadequate display of grief, there are other punishments available to be inflicted on those who were not sufficiently mournful.

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
13. Great point.
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 02:42 PM
Dec 2011

I was pilloried after Reagan's death for my mere indifference...apparently I was supposed to show "respect for the office." My reply: respect is earned. Reagan never earned mine.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
16. Definitely programmed responses that reflect a shared expectation of behaviour.
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 03:23 PM
Dec 2011

Probably grief cheerleaders sprinkled amongst the crowd to make sure the right level of grief is attained. But I also think that the lifelong propaganda programming is built on a 'father-child' model. Kim, of course, the supreme father figure; the entire population the children who depend on the father for their very existence. Framed that way, I do think many people's grief we're genuine displays of fear and anxiety of a future without the father.

I watched about 45 minutes of the video stream...it was fascinating, in a other world sense. I found the casket lashed to the roof of the limo to be really bizarre. I couldn't help but think maybe the Griswold family had taken a vacation to South Korea, inadvertantly busted through the DMZ, and ended up stopping to help out the actual hearse that broke down. I can see Clark saying..."sure, put the casket on top and I'll drive it to the mausoleum."

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